McD ranks high in play calling duties ... just a messenger

[mwestberry]

WTF, I mean the O offers little flexibility or adjustment, something to counter opposing D's adjustments. Virtually little up tempo stuff when the going gets rough. We run a bit then stop, throw a bit then stop, screen after screen and get get some of the fastest guys in the league open after the big year. Follow all this up and can't design an O to win ANY big game OR a successful O against a good team. Strange! Am I missing his genious?

Funny as hell ... so spot on ...

So are we all saying the players are just fine ... they execute each play at least "at standards" ...?

If many agree, then it has to be idiotic playcalling with a mix of tardiness.

It is hard to figure (at least in my eyes) why the team flounders at the exact time they should shine.
That may be a bit exaggerated, but when I see teams time and again, win or lose, have success on 3rd and short and even 4th down, it hits home for me.

Maybe McD is as "purposeful" with his tone and speech pattern in the headset as he is on the podium.
If so, wouldn't a number system be faster than actually repeating the play to the QB... or is this already a thing, and I am ignorant on the subject?

Whatever the case, there seems to be a disconnect between the play called (expected result) and the play itself (actual result) too many times for it to be neglected.

 

[artdnj]

Funny as hell ... so spot on ...

So are we all saying the players are just fine ... they execute each play at least "at standards" ...?

If many agree, then it has to be idiotic playcalling with a mix of tardiness.

It is hard to figure (at least in my eyes) why the team flounders at the exact time they should shine.
That may be a bit exaggerated, but when I see teams time and again, win or lose, have success on 3rd and short and even 4th down, it hits home for me.

Maybe McD is as "purposeful" with his tone and speech pattern in the headset as he is on the podium.
If so, wouldn't a number system be faster than actually repeating the play to the QB... or is this already a thing, and I am ignorant on the subject?

Whatever the case, there seems to be a disconnect between the play called (expected result) and the play itself (actual result) too many times for it to be neglected.

Yep, Tua doesn't have the killer gene, like McD. Both fold under pressure, and I blame the HC first and foremost. The entire org needs an enema as the players are just in it for a sloppy flawed ride that has bright spots yet way more dulls

 

[Sherif]

PPG for 2022 and 2023 probably got him on the list but 2024 returned to the average and with over 65% of the cap on offense that puts him well below average.

 

[Ikema]

He’s a bottom 10 play caller maybe the worst in the league. Just look at our struggles on 3rd and short and the amount of backwards drive killing plays we’ve had. I can’t even begin the count the amount of times we’ve been on the 40 and have run a backwards play that killed the drive or went on 4th and came away with no points. Hes shown little to no adjustments in game in 3 years and when teams figure out his original plan he gets killed.

People confuse play design and scheme with play calling. When he can sit down and watch film and come up with a scheme and pre plan drives he’s almost unmatched. Can’t find the stats but I’d bet we rank one of the best 1st drive teams in the league. Same thing first drive second half when he can sit down and study the defense he might be the best in the league but once teams adjust and his original plan is figured out and he needs to call drives on the fly, he’s awful.

Ideally letting him plan the original scheme and play design then passing plays off to another caller that can focus solely on the offense and calling plays. It’s clear to anyone paying attention that McDaniel can’t multi task and both his job as a head coach and play caller suffer as he tries to juggle the two in game.

I think you can blame the lack of ability to run in the middle on why some of his plays failed. There is a difference between calling a good play and execution

 

[Ikema]

Yep, Tua doesn't have the killer gene, like McD. Both fold under pressure, and I blame the HC first and foremost. The entire org needs an enema as the players are just in it for a sloppy flawed ride that has bright spots yet way more dulls

I'm so tired of you being a baby

 

[MARINO1384]

I think you can blame the lack of ability to run in the middle on why some of his plays failed. There is a difference between calling a good play and execution

Did he actually try? Supposedly teams played the most 2 high vs us which means we had the numbers in the run game. I don’t remember a single game where we attempted to run up the middle, almost everything was to the outside.

 

[artdnj]

I'm so tired of you being a baby

45+ years of misery I don’t give a hoot

 

[Fred Bear]

He’s a bottom 10 play caller maybe the worst in the league. Just look at our struggles on 3rd and short and the amount of backwards drive killing plays we’ve had. I can’t even begin the count the amount of times we’ve been on the 40 and have run a backwards play that killed the drive or went on 4th and came away with no points. Hes shown little to no adjustments in game in 3 years and when teams figure out his original plan he gets killed.

People confuse play design and scheme with play calling. When he can sit down and watch film and come up with a scheme and pre plan drives he’s almost unmatched. Can’t find the stats but I’d bet we rank one of the best 1st drive teams in the league. Same thing first drive second half when he can sit down and study the defense he might be the best in the league but once teams adjust and his original plan is figured out and he needs to call drives on the fly, he’s awful.

Ideally letting him plan the original scheme and play design then passing plays off to another caller that can focus solely on the offense and calling plays. It’s clear to anyone paying attention that McDaniel can’t multi task and both his job as a head coach and play caller suffer as he tries to juggle the two in game.
[/QUOTEisagood]
agree

 

[Highzenga]

I am of the opinion that he is a top 10 play caller. Game manager and leader of men no.

 

[Kyndig]

MSN

We can debate exactly where McDaniel belongs on this list, but it's pretty clear he should be in the top half and a top 10 ranking seems legit as well.

I have never seen rankings in this area ... I guess folks that watch the games disagree ..

Whoever wrote that article doesn’t regularly watch dolphin games. Anyone that does can see the following:

1. Horrible clock management. Probably the worst in the league.

2. Awful operation. He can’t get the plays in with enough time very often so they have to burn timeouts which shouldn’t be necessary which often come back to burn them.

3. Very poor second half adjustments.

4. The preparation during the week is clearly flawed because of the amount of penalties his offenses have week in and week out.

5. Poor personnel selection. 3rd and short and he chooses our 185 lb scar back every time and wonders why we can pick up 1 yard. So instead of using different personnel ends up calling questionable plays because he can’t trust the line and our tiny back to pick up 3rd and 1.

6. How does the deep passing game disappear last year?

7. I don’t know if you would put this on play calling, but it’s worth mentioning, he has the absolute worst challenge track record in the entire league. He’s won like 2
Challenges in 3 years.

 

[djphinfan]

There’s really no way of ranking play callers unless you’re doing based on yards gained per play

But that still leaves out an understanding of situational football, down and distance tendencies, intuitive situations

 

[mwestberry]

Whoever wrote that article doesn’t regularly watch dolphin games. Anyone that does can see the following:

1. Horrible clock management. Probably the worst in the league.

2. Awful operation. He can’t get the plays in with enough time very often so they have to burn timeouts which shouldn’t be necessary which often come back to burn them.

3. Very poor second half adjustments.

4. The preparation during the week is clearly flawed because of the amount of penalties his offenses have week in and week out.

5. Poor personnel selection. 3rd and short and he chooses our 185 lb scar back every time and wonders why we can pick up 1 yard. So instead of using different personnel ends up calling questionable plays because he can’t trust the line and our tiny back to pick up 3rd and 1.

6. How does the deep passing game disappear last year?

7. I don’t know if you would put this on play calling, but it’s worth mentioning, he has the absolute worst challenge track record in the entire league. He’s won like 2
Challenges in 3 years.

I can't disagree ...

Those are points, but do they have anything to do with the plays called?

 

[The Goat]

I think you can blame the lack of ability to run in the middle on why some of his plays failed. There is a difference between calling a good play and execution

This is actually a perfect illustration of my point. If you know inside runs on the right side of the line aren't working, STOP ******* calling inside runs on the right side of the line. If you know your team's personnel can't execute a play properly, calling it is a bad play call.

It's no different than when Adam Gase kept calling a play that required Danny Amendola to run from one side of the formation to another pre-snap to block, and he couldn't get to his spot in time because he just wasn't fast enough, but Gase kept running it. Eventually, Amendola threw up his hands in frustration in the middle of a game because he knew that the play wouldn't work, but Gase didn't.

 

[gofins60]

I think it’s overblown by Miami fans - he calls his fair share of bad plays and has plenty of flaws… but a lot of the play calling issues we have as fans stem from poor OL personnel.

There’s really no way of ranking play callers unless you’re doing based on yards gained per play

But that still leaves out an understanding of situational football, down and distance tendencies, intuitive situations

On one hand, a lot of plays resulted in minimal or even negative yards, but that was due to poor o-line blocking, and not bad playcalling. On the other hand, McDaniel knows that the line sucks, so why does he keep calling plays behind the line of scrimmage that are practically guaranteed to lose yardage? When the line allows defenders into the backfield over and over, does McDaniel call a play behind the LOS thinking that this time it will work?
Bad playcalling entails not just calling a bad play but also calling a play that has little to no hope of success.

I'd love to see stats on total negative yards gained; Miami has to be #1. And, not only do they lose a lot of yards on plays blown up in the backfield, but McDaniel is personally responsible for some penalty yards. If the play gets in late and they're called for Delay of Game, that's on McDaniel. If a player isn't lined up where he's supposed to be, or if two players go in motion at the same time, that's on McDaniel for not properly preparing his players. (Yes, I do realize that sometimes it's the player's fault.)

Also, on a related note, even if a play called in late doesn't result in a Delay of Game, it's McDaniel's fault if the play is blown up because the QB wasn't given enough time pre-snap to read the defense. I wonder how many big plays never happened because the play was called in too late. Add to that the fact that they never seem to emphasize building a strong o-line, and Miami's offense is doubly handicapped. That sucks, because I think that if they had a good o-line and smarter playcalling, the offense could be very good.

 

[fansinceGWilson]

On one hand, a lot of plays resulted in minimal or even negative yards, but that was due to poor o-line blocking, and not bad playcalling. On the other hand, McDaniel knows that the line sucks, so why does he keep calling plays behind the line of scrimmage that are practically guaranteed to lose yardage? When the line allows defenders into the backfield over and over, does McDaniel call a play behind the LOS thinking that this time it will work?
Bad playcalling entails not just calling a bad play but also calling a play that has little to no hope of success.

I'd love to see stats on total negative yards gained; Miami has to be #1. And, not only do they lose a lot of yards on plays blown up in the backfield, but McDaniel is personally responsible for some penalty yards. If the play gets in late and they're called for Delay of Game, that's on McDaniel. If a player isn't lined up where he's supposed to be, or if two players go in motion at the same time, that's on McDaniel for not properly preparing his players. (Yes, I do realize that sometimes it's the player's fault.)

Also, on a related note, even if a play called in late doesn't result in a Delay of Game, it's McDaniel's fault if the play is blown up because the QB wasn't given enough time pre-snap to read the defense. I wonder how many big plays never happened because the play was called in too late. Add to that the fact that they never seem to emphasize building a strong o-line, and Miami's offense is doubly handicapped. That sucks, because I think that if they had a good o-line and smarter playcalling, the offense could be very good.

Throwing a fade to a 5'2" WR every time Miami gets to the RZ has nothing to do with a poor OL. Sending Achane in for a run on 3rd and 2 has more to do with knowing it won't work than a poor OL.Calling pass plays where the dump off is a RB in the flats has nothing to do with a poor OL. Matter of fact, I was surprised TT got though the season without throwing a pick 6 intended for Achane. The play was that common.
And I consider play-calling a part of NOT calling plays. For example, targeting a 3rd string CB. Or not using rubs or shallow crossers. Not using plays is as critical as the wrong play.
I agree with your last sentence. I'm in the 100% group who have been arguing for OL upgrade. Having a run game would forse Ds out of 2-high. It would make the D respect play-action. It would open up more plays. I agree with all that. But that doesn't absolve Mcd from inept play-calling