McKinnie suggests change of rhythm and cadence

[CRAZYDOLFAN305]

Didn't take long to miss the point of the OP. It's better to challenge positive energy towards him because he's who we ridding into the playoffs with. .

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The offense is retarded. Hopefully Sherman goes this year, the GO's, no adjustments, the awful draws, it's all awful.

Yet some how we sit just one win away from the playoffs..

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[CRAZYDOLFAN305]

This tired ass topic only comes up after loses. There's no difference between say HUT HUT and GO GO..

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[J. David Wannyheimer]

With all due respect Dave you could of just started and ended with the above sentence.

Really? Okay, let me blow your mind:

In 14 games against other teams this season, San Diego's defense was penalized 2 times for being offside, and 2 times for a neutral zone infraction. This includes declined penalties.

In 1 game this season against the Miami Dolphins, San Diego's defense was penalized 4 times for being offside and one time for a neutral zone infraction.

Was that a fluke? Consider this:

In 13 games with Mike Pouncey starting at center for the Dolphins, the Dolphins offense forced 4 offside penalties and 0 neutral zone infractions.

In 2 games with Nate Garner starting at center for the Dolphins, the Dolphins offense forced 6 offside penalties and 1 neutral zone infraction.


Go ahead, tell me I'm imagining this. Fact is, our coaches can't figure it out.

 

[MRojas4]

McKinnie asks coaches to change snap count. Thinks Bills knew counts.

Searching for link. For all you Go, Go-Go dooms day theorists.

 

[MRojas4]

Mods please delete. Posting from phone didn't see thread already exists.

 

[Irishfinfan1]

Really? Okay, let me blow your mind:

In 14 games against other teams this season, San Diego's defense was penalized 2 times for being offside, and 2 times for a neutral zone infraction. This includes declined penalties.

In 1 game this season against the Miami Dolphins, San Diego's defense was penalized 4 times for being offside and one time for a neutral zone infraction.

Was that a fluke? Consider this:

In 13 games with Mike Pouncey starting at center for the Dolphins, the Dolphins offense forced 4 offside penalties and 0 neutral zone infractions.

In 2 games with Nate Garner starting at center for the Dolphins, the Dolphins offense forced 6 offside penalties and 1 neutral zone infraction.


Go ahead, tell me I'm imagining this. Fact is, our coaches can't figure it out.

Bang on the money Wannyheimer, we need a center than makes it hard for Ds to key on the timing of the snap. You would think with Pouncey having a brother that is a pro bowl quality center too that between the two of them they could work out how to snap the ball in a way that is unpredictable to the D.

 

[J. David Wannyheimer]

Mike Pouncey is a great blocker and I think he'd be an elite left guard. I'm not so much ripping on him as suggesting that he absolutely seems to be giving away the snap and giving defenders a jump on the snap.

Just go back and watch the two games Garner started vs say, this last game. Watch the movement of both players bodies when the ball is snapped. This is where the Dolphins absolutely need to get a guy like Zach Thomas in the building to help them with film study or something. Zach would have picked that up immediately.

 

[Travis34]

As long as they listen to him...

 

[CalDolFan10x14]

Let's see what happens this weekend. I so hope you are right and we have more football to talk about next week. However, I think Joe's team comes up small Sunday. Rex's team will fly around and play loose. The Fins will be tight.

Jeff Ireland will be blamed. So will Tannehill. So will the free agent pick ups....and some how Joe will skate by with people here. I do not get it.

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The Chargers were supposed to be better than Miami? Not sure where you got that, but if you had a low bar for the Fins, so be it.

I didn't have a low bar at all. I predicted a 9-7/10-6 season. Would've like to be better but it is what it is.

 

[jvw]

Actually, they get lots of praise for the things they do well, that doesn't diminish the things they don't do well.

True but you can't be on one end of the spectrum one week and on the other end the next week, you have to look at the whole body of work, there is a such thing as middle ground....a person is not a genius one week and boob the next......I don't care what cadence we used last week we were getting our butts kicked, can they change of cadence to help us in the future in a close game? Yes, should it be changed? Yes....this does not mean the coaching staff is being out coached by our designated forum head coaches that love to watch the game and then think they can do better and want to fire someone after every loss, it gets annoying

 

[Hayden Fox]

I didn't have a low bar at all. I predicted a 9-7/10-6 season. Would've like to be better but it is what it is.

I thought 9-7 too. A win Sunday and I will argue progress. Win a big in a big spot and I will be impressed.

 

[WVDolphan]

Haven't even us fans that know "little" compared to our coaches been expressing this forever? How can our staff not get this? I forget which game but we did switch it up once and it paid dividends.

Think about this exact question. I have.

Now, dont you find it difficult to believe that a group of men who have been coaching football their whole lives..... AT THE HIGHEST LEVELS mind you, and have had success doing so, would go with a more complex snap count if they felt what they are doing is hurting the teams ability to block? UNLESS........... There is a valid reason they are not going to something more complex?

Do you guys honestly not think that it is much more likely that it is the case that there is a REASON that they are simply NOT SHARING with the media or fans that they do not change these basic snap counts? Do you not think that sounds much more likely than they are just too stubborn or too ignorant to change them?

I myself find it VERY DIFFICULT to believe that these guys just refuse to change the snap counts if they felt it hurt the team unless they had a damn good reason not to. What that reason is, I cant be for certain. But, Im sure there has to be one. Why else would they not change it? Im sorry, I just cant buy that they refuse to do so or do not believe it hurts us when one of their veteran linemen tells them it does.

Lets see if they change it this week. If they do, then perhaps they never felt it hurt us and they think since McKinnie believes it does they should change it. If they dont change it this week, then its a dead giveaway that there is a damn good reason that we simply dont know about as to why they CANT change it.

Im guessing either Pouncey, Tannehill, or both are too ****ing stupid to handle a more complex snap count.

 

[J. David Wannyheimer]

Now, dont you find it difficult to believe that a group of men who have been coaching football their whole lives..... AT THE HIGHEST LEVELS mind you, and have had success doing so, would go with a more complex snap count if they felt what they are doing is hurting the teams ability to block? UNLESS........... There is a valid reason they are not going to something more complex?

Do you guys honestly not think that it is much more likely that it is the case that there is a REASON that they are simply NOT SHARING with the media or fans that they do not change these basic snap counts? Do you not think that sounds much more likely than they are just too stubborn or too ignorant to change them?

To be fair, neither Jim Turner nor Joe Philbin have coached 'their entire lives' at the 'highest level' of football. Zac Taylor certainly hasn't.

Personally, I believe that the snap count is done the way it is to cut down on false starts -- in fact I believe that is the reason we have so few false starts.

I don't think it's a case of incompetence. I think it's a case of ignorance. It won't be the first thing with this staff that struck me as a beginner's mistake.

 

[WVDolphan]

Really? Okay, let me blow your mind:

In 14 games against other teams this season, San Diego's defense was penalized 2 times for being offside, and 2 times for a neutral zone infraction. This includes declined penalties.

In 1 game this season against the Miami Dolphins, San Diego's defense was penalized 4 times for being offside and one time for a neutral zone infraction.

Was that a fluke? Consider this:

In 13 games with Mike Pouncey starting at center for the Dolphins, the Dolphins offense forced 4 offside penalties and 0 neutral zone infractions.

In 2 games with Nate Garner starting at center for the Dolphins, the Dolphins offense forced 6 offside penalties and 1 neutral zone infraction.


Go ahead, tell me I'm imagining this. Fact is, our coaches can't figure it out.

And this great post tells me that it is probably Mike Pouncey who is too ****ing stupid to handle a more complex snap count.

This tells me that the smart thing to do would be to move Pouncey to guard, then get rid of his worthless ass in the offseason. FREE POUNCEY.

If you want to blame the coaches for something, blame them for not moving Pouncey to guard, especially after we got rid of Incognito's dumbass.

 

[jvw]

Think about this exact question. I have.

Now, dont you find it difficult to believe that a group of men who have been coaching football their whole lives..... AT THE HIGHEST LEVELS mind you, and have had success doing so, would go with a more complex snap count if they felt what they are doing is hurting the teams ability to block? UNLESS........... There is a valid reason they are not going to something more complex?

Do you guys honestly not think that it is much more likely that it is the case that there is a REASON that they are simply NOT SHARING with the media or fans that they do not change these basic snap counts? Do you not think that sounds much more likely than they are just too stubborn or too ignorant to change them?

I myself find it VERY DIFFICULT to believe that these guys just refuse to change the snap counts if they felt it hurt the team unless they had a damn good reason not to. What that reason is, I cant be for certain. But, Im sure there has to be one. Why else would they not change it? Im sorry, I just cant buy that they refuse to do so or do not believe it hurts us when one of their veteran linemen tells them it does.

Lets see if they change it this week. If they do, then perhaps they never felt it hurt us and they think since McKinnie believes it does they should change it. If they dont change it this week, then its a dead giveaway that there is a damn good reason that we simply dont know about as to why they CANT change it.

Im guessing either Pouncey, Tannehill, or both are too ****ing stupid to handle a more complex snap count.

My money is on Pouncey, due to the people he likes to associate with off the field.........