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As it is well known that Tampa prefers to play alot of cover 2 defence I think the keys to this game will be McMike and Ronnie Brown going down the middle of the field.That is the area to attack the cover 2 and I can see a big week from both of them. If we have Ricky and Ronnie in the backfield I can see us using Ronnie swingin out sown the seam for some nice gains as he will have to be covered by a linebacker one on one if our wideouts run the safties deep. Look for a huge day from these too in order for the Phins to win.
 
dolphindiehard said:
Does anyone think this makes sense for us to win this game??
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That's part of it.

But, if that's a formation you guys are going to use alot of, then I see Kiffen using alot of nickel type packages, and using Ronde Barber as a LB/Nickel CB. That means alot of Marty Booker vs. Juran Bolden on the outside, and Barber on McMicheal.


This is shaping up to be a sloppy game. Both defenses look like they can stop the run, so it'll come down to the passing games. Griese is prone to the mistake, but Gus is facing a ballhawking secondary looking to rebound.


The Key Points to the game:

1 - How will Ricky Williams figure in the offense?

If he sees alot of the field, will it be as a decoy or take carries away from Ronnie Brown? And if he is taking carries, is it for the better? I'm still not sure on that and his overall conditioning. Wait and see I guess.

2 - How are the OL's going to hold up?

Both defensive front seven's are superb, and that is going to make it very difficult for either offense to run effectively. The Dolphins LB corps is a bit faster and more athletic than the Bucs, but the Bucs DL gets better penetration by itself.

3 - Will Carnell play?

Maybe..... maybe not. I think he'll suit up, but not see many carries.... 10-15 perhaps. If we sit him, he'd have 3 weeks to rest (last week vs. Jets, this week, and our bye is next week). Not a terribly bad idea, but it could cost us the game this week.

I say he'll suit up, see limited action in 3 quarters, and if its a close game, he'll get carries in the 4th quarter.

4 - The Randy McMicheal effect.

Its common knowledge that a Cover 2 defense is prone to getting ripped by TE's that settle nicely in the middle of the field. He'll get some recepts, maybe even a TD.... but I expect that the run game is more important to Nick Saban than getting McMicheal catches. It also depends on the scoreboard...... if we get up, he gets more attention..... if you guys get up, he gets less.
 
No question both teams are better on D than on O.

I think Ricky will be a factor in the passing game, simply because he is somewhat of an unknown right now. Is he the same power runner, is he quicker, is he NOT in football shape, etc? Too many questions to leave unanswered. If Ricky and Ronnie are on the field at the same time, there is no way you can ignore Ricky. I don't think the Bucks LB's can cover both Ricky and Ronnie out of the backfield, which SHOULD leave single coverage for either Chambers, Booker, McMike or any combo of the above.

Then again, maybe that's wishful thinking on my part :D
 
go McMichael! he has a TD is each of our 4 games this season and you can expect him to keep that streak going with a TD in this one
 
BigBadBuc said:
That's part of it.

But, if that's a formation you guys are going to use alot of, then I see Kiffen using alot of nickel type packages, and using Ronde Barber as a LB/Nickel CB. That means alot of Marty Booker vs. Juran Bolden on the outside, and Barber on McMicheal.


This is shaping up to be a sloppy game. Both defenses look like they can stop the run, so it'll come down to the passing games. Griese is prone to the mistake, but Gus is facing a ballhawking secondary looking to rebound.


The Key Points to the game:

1 - How will Ricky Williams figure in the offense?

If he sees alot of the field, will it be as a decoy or take carries away from Ronnie Brown? And if he is taking carries, is it for the better? I'm still not sure on that and his overall conditioning. Wait and see I guess.

2 - How are the OL's going to hold up?

Both defensive front seven's are superb, and that is going to make it very difficult for either offense to run effectively. The Dolphins LB corps is a bit faster and more athletic than the Bucs, but the Bucs DL gets better penetration by itself.

3 - Will Carnell play?

Maybe..... maybe not. I think he'll suit up, but not see many carries.... 10-15 perhaps. If we sit him, he'd have 3 weeks to rest (last week vs. Jets, this week, and our bye is next week). Not a terribly bad idea, but it could cost us the game this week.

I say he'll suit up, see limited action in 3 quarters, and if its a close game, he'll get carries in the 4th quarter.

4 - The Randy McMicheal effect.

Its common knowledge that a Cover 2 defense is prone to getting ripped by TE's that settle nicely in the middle of the field. He'll get some recepts, maybe even a TD.... but I expect that the run game is more important to Nick Saban than getting McMicheal catches. It also depends on the scoreboard...... if we get up, he gets more attention..... if you guys get up, he gets less.
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How about Barber? Do we know if he is going to get a suspension for the issue with the official?
 
Bowl_Bound said:
How about Barber? Do we know if he is going to get a suspension for the issue with the official?
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He would've been suspended by now if he was going to be. heck, he didn't even get ejected from the game!

He'll play... Should make an excellent matchup.
 
I think Linnehan will use alot of 3-4 WR sets to spread out this Tampa defense we could see Ronnie line up as a WR, and maybe Chris will be the slot reciever on a few plays, If there is anytime for Boston to step up its this game, he could help take the coverage off of the other guys or vice versa.

Both defensive front seven's are superb
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Carolina has a superb front seven and our o line held them in check, still it wont be easy.
 
Barber scares me. I don't think I would throw toward him all game. In the preseason he just plain seemed to know exactly where the ball was going before it was thrown and that is SCARY. Brian Kelly and Juran Bolden did not play in that game the way Barber did. Barber was in it and all over it.

If we're going to win this game it will have to be with the POWER running game, straight through the middle. Attack Chris Hovan, attack Booger McFarland.

The run blocking technique I saw the Phins have the most success with in the preseason involved double-team blocking of McIntosh and Jeno James on Booger McFarland's position (which, during the game was manned by Ellis Wyms), Randy McMichael singled up on Simeon Rice, Seth McKinney singled up on Chris Hovan, and Rex Hadnot pulling to the left to blow open the hole. Randy McMichael has a great opportunity in this game because in preseason he absolutely OWNED Simeon Rice in run blocking. Simeon has never been a good run defender either, he just doesn't like it and he doesn't try hard at all. Good technique will get him every time. The question is Booger McFarland...if he can't consistently blow up the double-team of McIntosh and James, then Miami will have success running up the gut. The second question is Chris Hovan and his single matchups with Seth McKinney. In the preseason McKinney really dominated Hovan in run blocking (I know, weird, right?). When the games start to count, if he continues that trend, Ronnie Brown and Ricky Williams have the power to exploit the middle of the defense.
 
I think linnehan will use alot of 3-4 WR sets to spread out this Tampa defense we could see Ronnie line up as a WR, and maybe Chris will be the slot reciever on a few plays, If there is anytime for Boston to step up its this game, he could help take the coverage off of thenother guys or vice versa.
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While I agree with the notion of going to 4 WR sets to shake Wes Welker loose on the secondary, I do not agree with it being used consistently. It would be a mistake to abandon the run before we even start against this Tampa D.

They have really yet to have a team truly mount a challenge to them in run defense. Most of the opponents they faced gave up on the run early after they got behind, and especially with Cadillac running so hard and helping the Bucs eat up clock, there was pressure on the other teams to score quickly and attack with the passing game. But that is exactly what the Tampa D wants you to do, abandon the run and try and attack them through the air. That is truly where they are at their best, too, because they have a ballhawking secondary and good pass rushers in Rice and Spires.

Make no mistake, Chris Hovan in run defense is not fantastic, nor does he have good concentration when you frustrate him. There is a reason Minnesota let him go. The Tampa linebackers are still as undersized as ever, and the best way to attack them is running straight up the gut where they have shown vulnerability over the last few years.
 
BigBadBuc said:
That's part of it.

But, if that's a formation you guys are going to use alot of, then I see Kiffen using alot of nickel type packages, and using Ronde Barber as a LB/Nickel CB. That means alot of Marty Booker vs. Juran Bolden on the outside, and Barber on McMicheal.


This is shaping up to be a sloppy game. Both defenses look like they can stop the run, so it'll come down to the passing games. Griese is prone to the mistake, but Gus is facing a ballhawking secondary looking to rebound.


The Key Points to the game:

1 - How will Ricky Williams figure in the offense?

If he sees alot of the field, will it be as a decoy or take carries away from Ronnie Brown? And if he is taking carries, is it for the better? I'm still not sure on that and his overall conditioning. Wait and see I guess.

2 - How are the OL's going to hold up?

Both defensive front seven's are superb, and that is going to make it very difficult for either offense to run effectively. The Dolphins LB corps is a bit faster and more athletic than the Bucs, but the Bucs DL gets better penetration by itself.

3 - Will Carnell play?

Maybe..... maybe not. I think he'll suit up, but not see many carries.... 10-15 perhaps. If we sit him, he'd have 3 weeks to rest (last week vs. Jets, this week, and our bye is next week). Not a terribly bad idea, but it could cost us the game this week.

I say he'll suit up, see limited action in 3 quarters, and if its a close game, he'll get carries in the 4th quarter.

4 - The Randy McMicheal effect.

Its common knowledge that a Cover 2 defense is prone to getting ripped by TE's that settle nicely in the middle of the field. He'll get some recepts, maybe even a TD.... but I expect that the run game is more important to Nick Saban than getting McMicheal catches. It also depends on the scoreboard...... if we get up, he gets more attention..... if you guys get up, he gets less.
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Nice write up I agree with all your points...strange there is a guy with your screen name in another thread that such a homer :).
 
Call me crazy, but I do believe the phins will have some success against the Bucs running the ball. It's about the scheme to get the right matchups and I believe Seth can handle Hovan and together James and McIntosh can handle McFarland, and I believe that any number of people can handle Simeon Rice (McMichael, Evans, heck even Ronnie Brown). As you can see I have very little respect for Rice when it comes to run defense.
 
Bowl_Bound said:
How about Barber? Do we know if he is going to get a suspension for the issue with the official?
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No suspension. He got fined 30k.
 
dolphinsjayshaw said:
Hey BigBadBuc, nice to see a fellow Monctonian on here. Question for you, any idea if the game might be on here this week?
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I've got Sunday Ticket..... so I'll be front and center.

BTW 1 - Sunday Ticket is the best thing since sliced bread.

BTW 2 - Think we get a CFL team soon?
 
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