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Time to get Chambers the damn ball.

It's frustrating watching Mularkey "try" to get Chambers involved with the offense. At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't even reach the 900-yard mark in this offensive scheme. Chambers is being used more as a decoy than a playmaker. Although we all know the line can't hold up long enough for Pep to get a deep look, we've still got Chambers running deep routes on 80% of the pass plays. When he runs the shorter routes, he's open. This, IMO, is one of the biggest if not the biggest reason why we're not a big play offense and we struggle to move the ball. We take 1-2 shots downfield per game, if any.. so why bother use our best receiving weapon to run deep routes on 9/10 of the passes? Throw the guy in the slot or have him run those hooks where he completely owns outside the lines.

It's almost sad seeing our best weapon needing to run a reverse just to get partially involved in the offense. I'm happy with the win, but we're not going to beat good teams this way. We have to get Chris involved, and early, against Houston. Pep/Chambers need to get in rhythm and have a big day.
 
I'm beginning to think otherwise. No other team in the NFL uses their best player as a "decoy" like we do. No INTELLIGENT coach would consistently deny his playmaker the chances to not change the game week in and week out.

How many OC's have denied Chambers the ball?

How many HC's have denied him the ball?

Maybe they're just not getting the memos the fans send out about Chambers being great.

Or maybe there's something else to it.

Maybe it's time to realize this #1 WR that consistently puts up numbers no better than Reggie Wayne (#2 WR), isn't a WR #1 after all.

And please don't start with the "throw him the ball and see" argument. Because if we did throw it too him, he'd probably drop it the easy passes and catch the hard ones. But, "drops" is never a word you want to hear being used to describe your best WR.
 
NathanHunt said:
I'm beginning to think otherwise. No other team in the NFL uses their best player as a "decoy" like we do. No INTELLIGENT coach would consistently deny his playmaker the chances to not change the game week in and week out.

How many OC's have denied Chambers the ball?

How many HC's have denied him the ball?

Maybe they're just not getting the memos the fans send out about Chambers being great.

Or maybe there's something else to it.

Maybe it's time to realize this #1 WR that consistently puts up numbers no better than Reggie Wayne (#2 WR), isn't a WR #1 after all.

And please don't start with the "throw him the ball and see" argument. Because if we did throw it too him, he'd probably drop it the easy passes and catch the hard ones. But, "drops" is never a word you want to hear being used to describe your best WR.

Chambers is a little drop prone to be a #1 WR, but when he gets the ball in his hands, whether its on revereses or short routes, hes a playmaker. He is so quick and agile. I agree with Blueprint, although i think that we need to put him in Welker's role, hes getting alot of those patterns across the middle, but maybe chambers is still afraid to do those(Welker gets knocked pretty good on those)
 
NathanHunt said:
I'm beginning to think otherwise. No other team in the NFL uses their best player as a "decoy" like we do. No INTELLIGENT coach would consistently deny his playmaker the chances to not change the game week in and week out.

How many OC's have denied Chambers the ball?

How many HC's have denied him the ball?

Maybe they're just not getting the memos the fans send out about Chambers being great.

Or maybe there's something else to it.

Maybe it's time to realize this #1 WR that consistently puts up numbers no better than Reggie Wayne (#2 WR), isn't a WR #1 after all.

And please don't start with the "throw him the ball and see" argument. Because if we did throw it too him, he'd probably drop it the easy passes and catch the hard ones. But, "drops" is never a word you want to hear being used to describe your best WR.

never touching the ball is another word u dont wanna hear around you're best receiver...especially a pro bowler.
 
Chambers has to get open first, the problem is now that Chambers has established himself as a probowl WR he's going to see more double teams and the teams are going to be gunning to shut him down. Chambers to me has had a hard time getting open for quite a while, now that he's facing double coverage more often I look for him to be less of a factor. Wes Welker is getting the ball a ton because he's getting open, Chambers just isn't getting that seperation.
 
you see...chambers needs to grow a pair and demand the damn ball. Im sick of blaming it on the offensive coordinator. Theres probably several plays being called that are drawn up to go to chambers, but hes just not getting open. Stop blaming Chambers #'s on mularkey, because welkers doing a much better job so far this season, and you can't tell me mularkeys actually calling plays to go to him. Get real.
 
Saban4prez said:
you see...chambers needs to grow a pair and demand the damn ball. Im sick of blaming it on the offensive coordinator. Theres probably several plays being called that are drawn up to go to chambers, but hes just not getting open. Stop blaming Chambers #'s on mularkey, because welkers doing a much better job so far this season, and you can't tell me mularkeys actually calling plays to go to him. Get real.

But then when Chambers calls for the ball everyone will call him a premadona and compare him to all those other loud mouth WRs

And welker is doing good b/c hes goign across the middle on short routes, which we need to do with chambers since our Oline won't give culpepper enough time to throw it deep to chambers
 
Here's why

Best example of why your little prince Chambers doesn't get the ball. First game of the season, it was pretty obvious. They throw to him 3 times in a row, and he drops all of them.

In short, the Dolphins offense is struggling really bad. They don't have the luxury to "get" peolpe the ball at will like your better teams in the NFL do. The Dolphins have to take what they can get on offense. Welker is the only one on offense who apparently arrives at the game for the offense until the second half when everybody else decides to show up.

Welker is making the plays, getting open, CATCHING the ball.
 
Chamber's the BALL!!

Amen to that!! Until Daunte shows teams that he can beat them with the passing game. This team will struggle in the running game and in the pass. This is the major problem why Ronnie isn't getting he's yards. Teams are placing 8-9 guys in the box and saying Daunte let's see you beat us. Look at the Titan's game. The play calling has got to change...and the O-line is not playing like a unit due to injury.
 
guys he isnt getting open like he should. well, hes not getting open deep like we expect him to. he has been open and catching some intermediate balls, and some quick sideline passes. teams are also paying more attention to him. gotta love how welker is stepping up. gotta bring this up, am i the only one who thinks they saw mcmike give up on a few routes and cut some off early?
 
NathanHunt said:
I'm beginning to think otherwise. No other team in the NFL uses their best player as a "decoy" like we do. No INTELLIGENT coach would consistently deny his playmaker the chances to not change the game week in and week out.

How many OC's have denied Chambers the ball?

How many HC's have denied him the ball?

Maybe they're just not getting the memos the fans send out about Chambers being great.

Or maybe there's something else to it.

Maybe it's time to realize this #1 WR that consistently puts up numbers no better than Reggie Wayne (#2 WR), isn't a WR #1 after all.

And please don't start with the "throw him the ball and see" argument. Because if we did throw it too him, he'd probably drop it the easy passes and catch the hard ones. But, "drops" is never a word you want to hear being used to describe your best WR.

I agree.. different OCs.. different coaches.. and the same result. i have come to the conclusion that CC isnt just getting the type of separation that makes QBs feel confident in throwing it to him. Also.. his drops are huge... To be number one.. he's got to have sure hands that catches everything. All types of catches,.. down low.. diving...high.. side line.. across the middle.. Steve Smith catches almost everything.. always.. not CC.. He needs to show up. he has one good game.. and everyone gets all excited.. they all blow him up... But he never has a 16 game season where he deserves to be called elite.
 
NathanHunt said:
I'm beginning to think otherwise. No other team in the NFL uses their best player as a "decoy" like we do. No INTELLIGENT coach would consistently deny his playmaker the chances to not change the game week in and week out.

How many OC's have denied Chambers the ball?

How many HC's have denied him the ball?

Maybe they're just not getting the memos the fans send out about Chambers being great.

Or maybe there's something else to it.

Maybe it's time to realize this #1 WR that consistently puts up numbers no better than Reggie Wayne (#2 WR), isn't a WR #1 after all.

And please don't start with the "throw him the ball and see" argument. Because if we did throw it too him, he'd probably drop it the easy passes and catch the hard ones. But, "drops" is never a word you want to hear being used to describe your best WR.

NAAAA, he can catch just fine. It is the game plan clearly. They have not used him like they could. (Maybe they think they are keeping him a secret so they can go to him without the other team suspecting it late in the season to win a meaningless week 14 game or something! Idiots.)
 
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