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MERGED: 3 games in 11 days. This Team was tired

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This team is dead tired after training camp (2 x a day) and playing 3 games in 11 days. I expected better effort from our starters but I can understand.
Taylor and Hartline are the only one who came to play today..

1) Our run defense is bad
2) Mistackles
3) Secondary (Receivers wide open but Leftwich overthrew them)
4) O-Line - The Bucs D-line dominated
5) Pass Rush (good at times)

I'm sure we will improve against Atlanta....
 
The only positive I took out of this game was the performance of Hartline, the guy can play.
 
NO WAY MAN THE SKY IS FALLING......we are only gonna win like 3 games and be in the lower part of the league in every aspect of the game....

I AM KIDDING....i think alot of stuff went into poor play....being tired sloppy weather lack of enthusiasm different scheme or experimental schemes i donno but everything about today can be fixed with hard work
 
i really dont know if they are tired from 3 games in 11 days considering how the playing time is split. they could be a little tired being in the middle of training camp which is kinda normal. 2 games at home and other one in tampa so traveling wasnt a problem. imo just typical preseason game. things get serious from here out and its time to focus on atlanta.
 
The 2nd team LB's and DL looked very good in general. Vontae proved he's willing to cripple the opposing QB, Hilliard is working on a massive contusion, Pennington proved he could overthrow a wide open Tedd Ginn in the endzone from 15 yards away, Jake Grove added to our 2010 draft needs, and poor Cam looks like a very slow white guy. All in all, not that bad – just really awful in many ways.
 
It was just a sloppy game overall by both sides. Despite all of the overreaction in the Game Thread, you'll see a much different team on Week 1.
 
That is no excuse. These guys eat, sleep and fart football. They have gone through camp and should be conditioned. It was just poor execution both sides of the ball. Nothing more or less. It makes me wonder how much the first team offense is going to play next week. I would keep them in for a few series or the first quarter, whatever comes first.
 
I'm sorry but anyone who has followed football closely knows there comes a time when you push your players a little too hard and they lose their camp legs. It's a fact of life. This "no excuses, these guys are professionals" stuff is just not the reality. They're not cyborgs. They're humans.

This was the third game in 11 days, on the road, coming off two straight weeks of two-a-days every single day (which is abnormal, to me). These coaches pushed these players hard, and honestly they should have already lost their legs by now but they didn't.

All in all though, they won the game. That includes the starters versus starters. They were tired, pushed hard, a step slow, things went wrong, and they still came out on top. There has to be something said for that.
 
Good football teams find a way to win. Anyone that knows anything about football knows 3 games in 11 days, 2 a days in the South Florida heat, and a delay which completely kills adrenaline flow, showed up on that field tonight. Both teams were horrible.
 
ckparrothead said:
I'm sorry but anyone who has followed football closely knows there comes a time when you push your players a little too hard and they lose their camp legs. It's a fact of life. This "no excuses, these guys are professionals" stuff is just not the reality. They're not cyborgs. They're humans.

This was the third game in 11 days, on the road, coming off two straight weeks of two-a-days every single day (which is abnormal, to me). These coaches pushed these players hard, and honestly they should have already lost their legs by now but they didn't.

All in all though, they won the game. That includes the starters versus starters. They were tired, pushed hard, a step slow, things went wrong, and they still came out on top. There has to be something said for that.
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They did look bad and the first thing you notice in a tired team is mental mistakes. Our team did not look sharp at all. Training camp is gruesome, but I expect these guys to be ready week 1 agains the Falcons. Well put guys, I don't expect it to happen again to us.
 
ckparrothead said:
I'm sorry but anyone who has followed football closely knows there comes a time when you push your players a little too hard and they lose their camp legs. It's a fact of life. This "no excuses, these guys are professionals" stuff is just not the reality. They're not cyborgs. They're humans.

This was the third game in 11 days, on the road, coming off two straight weeks of two-a-days every single day (which is abnormal, to me). These coaches pushed these players hard, and honestly they should have already lost their legs by now but they didn't.

All in all though, they won the game. That includes the starters versus starters. They were tired, pushed hard, a step slow, things went wrong, and they still came out on top. There has to be something said for that.
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I understand what your saying but why would TS then say he wanted a good hard look at the offense if he knew they were at their breaking point? Tired legs don't cause errant throws, sloppy tackling, poor decisions, etc.

I am tired of hearing excuses albeit no matter how much they "may" be a factor. When the team wins, no excuses generally are made. When they lose, you can go back and watch film but as they say "the eye in the sky doesn't lie". We can speculate all we want but quite honestly, there was no execution of FUNDAMENTALS for majority of the starters on this team tonight. I just find it hard to believe that as a coach and definitely as probably the most important pre-season game in terms of final evaluations for your starters to have beat the crap out of them and set them up for failure, especially on the national stage. I could rest a bit easier if our game day starters played all 3 games for 4 quarters but they didn't. There was plenty of rotations during all 3 games. Probably the starting o-line played the most snaps of the game day starters than anyone else on the team but I could be wrong. I saw them deep into the 3rd quarter in today's game, although they practically didn't play the entire first half.

It just seems an easy "cop out" to point to a team being tired as the reason why they looked the way they do. I am tired of making excuses over the years for bad play. Two-a-days are not a new concept in the NFL and neither are multiple games in a two week span. We did that often around Thanksgiving and Christmas during the regular season for awhile as do other teams.
 
ckparrothead said:
I'm sorry but anyone who has followed football closely knows there comes a time when you push your players a little too hard and they lose their camp legs. It's a fact of life. This "no excuses, these guys are professionals" stuff is just not the reality. They're not cyborgs. They're humans.

This was the third game in 11 days, on the road, coming off two straight weeks of two-a-days every single day (which is abnormal, to me). These coaches pushed these players hard, and honestly they should have already lost their legs by now but they didn't.

All in all though, they won the game. That includes the starters versus starters. They were tired, pushed hard, a step slow, things went wrong, and they still came out on top. There has to be something said for that.
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I respect your optimism but I don’t think your explanation holds water for the QB’s – and it’s not like the 1st team OL was playing the entire game in prior weeks.
 
When the 4th quarter of the regular season games get here, we'll be ready. Tampa had almost all the penalties. Hartline, Moses & Wake looked fresh. Smith owned in coverage again. I was happy with the team tonight for the most part. They're tough, spirited & disciplined, even when they should be exhausted.
 
Let's just say this wasn't the Miami Dolphins we saw in game's one and two, but they buckled up towards the end. Being tired could have been a reason for it, but maybe Tampa prepared very well for the Fins. Who knows the real reason. At least Hartline and Camarillo had some nice catches and we came out with a meaningless win. We'll see what happens in the opener (since game 4 of pre season is garbage).
 
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