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DisturbedShifty said:
Because they are lying about never seeing it. They reworked the domestic violence policy because they knew how bad it really was and just figured no one would ever find out.
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Good point. I know they had to see it
 
The Ray Rice clip was accidentally misplaced with the Patriot cheat video's......
 
Hopefully no one is gullible enough to believe that if Goodell could have gotten his hands on the one and only tape - it would have also quietly disappeared like the Belicheat tapes. He's a corrupt POS who cares little about doing the right thing if he could get away with sweeping image-tarnishing transgressions under the rug. You better believe he saw the tape and now this is twice he ****ed up over it. My own theory is that someone affiliated with the casino, the Atlantic CITYPD or the DA's office was so enraged at the whitewashing of this disgrace and possibly how Goodell intervened with the ACPD/DA to not charge him criminally that they sent a copy to TMZ.
 
JCfinfan said:
I'm confuse how an organization as powerful as the NFL couldn't get their hands on that video before this. The NFL looks like even bigger fools now. Rice is a loser!!!!!!!
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They all knew what happened before. The NFL and the Ravens had seen the video. I promise you this.

Everyone knows it. They swept it under the rug a few months ago. The reports were out there. I had read what happened. The very next day people were talking. Yet, somehow the only video that came out was the one where he was dragging her out of the elevator.

Then when the outcry came over the short 2 game suspension, the NFL knew they messed up. They made some new policy and waited patiently. The Ravens had a couple of guys run the ball pretty well yesterday and decided they could live without Rice. The video conveniently comes out today huh? The NFL planned this weeks ago after they realized they screwed up with the 2 game suspension. Once the Ravens gave the go ahead to release the video it gave them a perfect excuse to go back and give Rice the appropriate punishment.
 
And then there's this damning peice of evidence against Goodel and other NFL officials from Peter King's MMQB in July,

There is one other thing I did not write or refer to, and that is the other videotape the NFL and some Ravens officials have seen, from the security camera inside the elevator at the time of the physical altercation between Rice and his fiancée. I have heard reports of what is on the video, but because I could not confirm them and because of the sensitivity of the case, I never speculated on the video in my writing, because I don’t think it is fair in an incendiary case like this one to use something I cannot confirm with more than one person. I cannot say any more, because I did not see the tape. I saw only the damning tape of Rice pulling his unconscious fiancée out of the elevator.
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http://mmqb.si.com/2014/07/29/jordan-gross-weight-retirement-panthers/2/

Goodell should be next on the suspended indefinitely list.
 
JCfinfan said:
I'm confuse how an organization as powerful as the NFL couldn't get their hands on that video before this. The NFL looks like even bigger fools now. Rice is a loser!!!!!!!
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Oh the league saying they didn't know is a bad attempt at covering their ass when it was reported months ago that the league saw the other video.

They thought the heat would die down but the casino/hotel this took place out went out of business and somebody decided to leak the tape.

And a Raven beat writer was on XM radio. He said that they knew what happened. The Casino officials confronted Rice right after it happened and showed the video to him. It is also in the police report what happened.
 
Petition calling for the resigning of Goodell??? :ponder:

Wonder how many sigs that could pull now amidst all the apparent opaqueness of Goodell and his henchman?
 
Ray Rice isn't a hall of fame caliber linebacker, so it's possible to bring the hammer down on him.

I do indeed hope that this is the fall of Goodell.
 
Goodell will never get fired, he makes the owners too much money for them to ever get rid of him. I'm hoping they suspend him, but I doubt that'll happen either.
 
TheJetsBlow said:
Goodell will never get fired, he makes the owners too much money for them to ever get rid of him. I'm hoping they suspend him, but I doubt that'll happen either.
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Au contrair mon frere. The only reason Rice's punishment was increased and that there has been a change in the NFL's domestic abuse policy is because of the voice of the people. We have the power if united. Never think otherwise. [Steps down from chair amongst public gathering and turns off megaphone]
 
Goodell elected himself the league's top cop. Is he Barney Fife? Did he not talk to the police or hotel security personnel who saw the tape?

Surely, as a matter of criminal procedure, Rice and his attorneys had access to the video as part of "discovery." Or maybe I've watched too many episodes of "Law & Order"? Assuming Rice and his attorneys had access to the video, given Goodell's unchecked power, he could've easily compelled Rice to hand it over. And, if Rice and his handlers were reluctant to do so, it would've been a damning piece of evidence that the video was damning.

Weeks ago, when Keith Olbermann used the Rice suspension as justification for calling for Goodell's removal as commissioner, I thought Olbermann was going way too far.

I was wrong.

This is incompetence at a confidence-shaking level. I've argued from the outset of the NFL's personal-conduct policy in 2007 that Goodell made a huge mistake appointing himself the czar of discipline. By doing so, by playing to the crowd that clamored for public NFL discipline of private matters, he put himself at odds with the league's players, turned up the spotlight on off-the-field issues and placed himself in a situation that leads to where we are today.

Less than 24 hours after the first Sunday of the NFL season, a player who didn't touch the field or enter a stadium is the topic of conversation.

That is not a complaint. I'm a sports columnist who specializes in social commentary. I want these topics explored. As an American citizen and a sports fan, I'm concerned about our culture and sports' positive and negative impact on our culture.

I have an agenda different from Goodell's. His job is to protect the NFL brand. It's my belief he took on the role as czar of discipline -- rather than delegating it -- as a way of promoting his own brand. He loved the buzz of being the guy cracking down on out-of-control professional athletes.

But there's a reason the president appoints an attorney general. Crime and punishment are messy and complicated. They require a singular focus so major screwups are avoided, and the president's office needs distance from the inevitable mistakes. There have been 82 U.S. attorneys general and only 44 U.S. presidents. When the politics get tough, the attorney general is often replaced.

Goodell created this mess a long time ago. He should soon follow Ray Rice in looking for a new line of work.
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http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11488363/jason-whitlock-latest-ray-rice-developments

Long quote but i thought it was to good not to link.

It never ceases to amaze me how Goodell ****s this up every single time. It seems like im saying this a lot lately: but he fought tooth and nail for the right to punish players in anyway he saw fit. He sure as hell tried to exercise that right when it came to "Bountygate"(how hilarious was his response to that in hindsight?). He owns this. Not to take anything away from Rice(and i completely support his suspension, no matter how many amusing rants i make about fantasy football conspiracies/Walrus cheating...which he does) who absolutely is the villain, but Goodell dropped the ball horribly.

And its to much. Way to much. I completely agree he needs to step down. He wanted to be top cop, now he pays the price for failing as top cop. That said, i doubt this topples him.

Also, the new domestic violence policy needs to be applied immediately and retroactively. Greg Hardy, 6 games. Etc. Though id sure as hell feel better if a new commissioner was overseeing the policy.
 
Well I'm glad I didn't waste a draft pick on Rice since he won't be playing football this year. Justin Forsett, come on down!
 
Too bad no one can suspend Goodell indefinitely. That would be a major win for football fans and humanity in general.

The rallying around the shield by ESPN over this has been ridiculous "the commissioner did the right thing"... which is of course what they were saying when he handed down that two game suspension. The excuse making for the Ravens has been ridiculous. "The first time we've seen the tape"... oh come on. Who made those twitter posts? Who wrote that crap on the Ravens Web site? I guess the rubes will fall for it and God knows homers love to get their rube on. This is the same franchise that put a statue of Ray Lewis outside its stadium after all.
 
While the entire sports world discusses how badly the NFL and the Ravens screwed this up, the NFLN is featuring Ray Lewis on their football life series tonight. :bobdole:
 
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