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Could Cam be worse then Saban?

Hello fellow Fins Fans of the WORLD.

Has anyone considered for one second that Cam Cameron might be a worse coach then Saban and Wannestant put together?

1. He has zero track record other then a losing season at Indiana
2. He has fired coaches left and right the latest Bobby Williams.
3. He benched Chris Chambers during mini camp hurting his confidence
4. He called Ronnie Brown fat.
5 He refuses to extend an olive branch to our beloved Ricky.
6. He has thrown Duante under the bus and does'nt refer to him by name.
7. He has cut or traded a third of the team including fan favorites
8. He was condensending to Dan Le Batard during his show.
9. He did'nt address the offensive line again in free agency
10. He can't seem to pull the trigger on the Trent Green trade.

I am not sold on Cameron he just seems to be trying to do to much to fast. If we don't move up and draft Brady Quinn we are going to be in a world of trouble. Cleo Lemon starting at Qb is what I see if Quinn is not drafted and the schedule does not help either.

What happened to those new uniforms they promised? Im not going to the Saban Bubble this year for the draft to many bad memories from last year. Wasted a hole day for Saban to draft Jason Allen. :(
 
Hello fellow Fins Fans of the WORLD.

Has anyone considered for one second that Cam Cameron might be a worse coach then Saban and Wannestant put together?

1. He has zero track record other then a losing season at Indiana
2. He has fired coaches left and right the latest Bobby Williams.
3. He benched Chris Chambers during mini camp hurting his confidence
4. He called Ronnie Brown fat.
5 He refuses to extend an olive branch to our beloved Ricky.
6. He has thrown Duante under the bus and does'nt refer to him by name.
7. He has cut or traded a third of the team including fan favorites
8. He was condensending to Dan Le Batard during his show.
9. He did'nt address the offensive line again in free agency
10. He can't seem to pull the trigger on the Trent Green trade.

I am not sold on Cameron he just seems to be trying to do to much to fast. If we don't move up and draft Brady Quinn we are going to be in a world of trouble. Cleo Lemon starting at Qb is what I see if Quinn is not drafted and the schedule does not help either.

What happened to those new uniforms they promised? Im not going to the Saban Bubble this year for the draft to many bad memories from last year. Wasted a hole day for Saban to draft Jason Allen. :(

We have been a crap team with all your "fan favorites", Ricky is a 2 time NFL loser, Green hangs from the Chiefs with a bad request from them, Quinn is ONE player...teams don't win with one player..hence the team concept, Ronnie is/was overweight so meh, Chambers is decent at best and will be gone *IMO* next year, he fired a coach from the Saban era..by the way Saban's entire concept sucked, De Le****** is just that.

Maybe you should not watch football until you understand that fixing a crap team involves making decisions that cut/trade/release people that are taking up space for good football players someday.
 
Bikinibottom;1062006870 1. He has zero track record other then a losing season at Indiana 2. He has fired coaches left and right the latest Bobby Williams. 3. He benched Chris Chambers during mini camp hurting his confidence 4. He called Ronnie Brown fat. 5 He refuses to extend an olive branch to our beloved Ricky. 6. He has thrown Duante under the bus and does'nt refer to him by name. 7. He has cut or traded a third of the team including fan favorites 8. He was condensending to Dan Le Batard during his show. 9. He did'nt address the offensive line again in free agency 10. He can't seem to pull the trigger on the Trent Green trade. [/quote said:
Here is my thinking.....it is JMO though...ok.

1. Maybe not as a HC but just look at what SD did.....I'm sold.
2. Cleaning out old coaches from past regime....almost always a constant. Takes time to weed out problem areas.
3. Good for him. Should be a wake up call to CC. After that many drops last year...this should not break his confidence yet make him work harder.
4. The offseason will do that. If he showed up fat...call it like he sees it.
5. So. I want him to come back too but what can ya do...roll out the silver platter?
6. Cam wants healthy bodies practicing and getting ready for the season. He wont act all lovey dovey until his butt is in TC and performing well. Once this happens...then we all can follow suit in being lovey dovey...
7. "Fan Favs" don't win ball games....Players that want to play and have a passion to play do. Be gone with Fan Favs that are dead weight....
8. Do ya blame him?
9. He tried but because money, QB issues and other teams wanting to break the bank...Cam wasn't gonna hurt the team financially just to plug a player in...IMO
10. He wont either as long as Peterson is requesting that BS he is asking in return. Would you give up a 2nd and a 7th (Welker type deal) for a 37 yr old QB that had a big time concussion and only has 2-3 yrs left???? Not me.
 
Hello fellow Fins Fans of the WORLD.

Has anyone considered for one second that Cam Cameron might be a worse coach then Saban and Wannestant put together?

1. He has zero track record other then a losing season at Indiana

Did you watch the Chargers resurgence ?? You can write it down that it had much more to do with Cam than it did Shottenheimer .. San Diego players admitted to this when both coaches left..

2. He has fired coaches left and right the latest Bobby Williams.

When a new coach comes in, it is normal procedure to assemble his own staff.. There is absolutely nothing out of the ordinary about it..


3. He benched Chris Chambers during mini camp hurting his confidence

Well BOO HOO !! If a player is not performing, are you telling me a wise coach keeps playing him ? No, he doesn't .. And, it was a mini camp in April for god sakes !! It's much better to get Chambers' attention now than next September when it really counts..

Cam is sending him a message that he needs to work this spring and summer to get better or else .. Chambers needs to wake up, fans have said this here even before the mini camo.


4. He called Ronnie Brown fat.

He was fat, he is overweight.. Dude, you are being ridiculous.. A coach can't even call a fat player fat now?? This is the year 2007 dude !! Cam wants to make sure Brown is keeping in shape, and maintaining his diet, there is nothing wrong with that... My god, you are such a nitpicker - you remind me of my whiny ex wife.. heh

So now what ? Ronnie Brown is a woman ? He can't take being called FAT ?? I know women can't take being called fat, but this is an NFL player who's job is to stay in shape you numbskull !!

5 He refuses to extend an olive branch to our beloved Ricky.

What is he supposed to do ? The NFL has to reinstate Ricky before he can do anything with him.. What is Cam supposed to do ? baby him ? He's a man, not a baby .


6. He has thrown Duante under the bus and does'nt refer to him by name.

That's because Daunte deserves to be run over because he is dumb and he stinks, he won't be here because he is a useless QB in Cam's system .. Cam has said over and over again that his system requires a QB who can think FAST and think fast under pressure.. That is CLEARLY DAunte's biggest weakness..


7. He has cut or traded a third of the team including fan favorites

he got rid of alot of trash on this team.. And fan favorites ? McMichael would have gotten like $6 or $7 million next season, was he worth it with his lack of prodiuction ? HELL NO !! And who are these fan favorites you imply ??


8. He was condensending to Dan Le Batard during his show.

Dan Lebatard is an a--hole.. I've wanted to punch that guy in the face for years ! he is a total buffoon.. If anything, this should make you like Cam more, not less for goodness sakes..

9. He does'nt address the offensive line again in free agency

Because there was garbage in free agency.. And the two good o-lineman were greatly overpaid.. And one took $8 million less to stay in San Diego, even though he got like a $45 million offer elsewhere.

10. He can seem to pull the trigger on the Trent Green trade.

If he gets him now, he will overpay.. For crying out loud we aren't even at draft time yet, IT'S APRIL ! The longer Cam waits, the better the price will be for Green.. And by the way, that "he" is Mueller, not Cam .

I am not sold on Cameron he just seems to be trying to do to much to fast.

That statement makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.. How can he be doing things too fast when you say he has done nothing on the o-line and hasn't pulled the Green trade yet, along with other things you mentioned that show the contrary..

This team was a MESS when he took it over.. He had overpaid scrubs ALL OVER the roster.. Rome wasn't built in a day man, and I like every move Cam and Mueller have made thus far.. A house cleaning was greatly needed on this team.. Thank God Cam took out the trash !!
 
Hello fellow Fins Fans of the WORLD.

Has anyone considered for one second that Cam Cameron might be a worse coach then Saban and Wannestant put together?

1. He has zero track record other then a losing season at Indiana
2. He has fired coaches left and right the latest Bobby Williams.
3. He benched Chris Chambers during mini camp hurting his confidence
4. He called Ronnie Brown fat.
5 He refuses to extend an olive branch to our beloved Ricky.
6. He has thrown Duante under the bus and does'nt refer to him by name.
7. He has cut or traded a third of the team including fan favorites
8. He was condensending to Dan Le Batard during his show.
9. He did'nt address the offensive line again in free agency
10. He can't seem to pull the trigger on the Trent Green trade.

I am not sold on Cameron he just seems to be trying to do to much to fast. If we don't move up and draft Brady Quinn we are going to be in a world of trouble. Cleo Lemon starting at Qb is what I see if Quinn is not drafted and the schedule does not help either.

What happened to those new uniforms they promised? Im not going to the Saban Bubble this year for the draft to many bad memories from last year. Wasted a hole day for Saban to draft Jason Allen. :(

WHO THE H*** RATED THIS THREAD 1 STAR. Can you give negative ratings...I just do not know where to begin. I can't count how many brain cells I just lost from opening this thread and just reading the title. Thanks Bikini, you just made everyone on this site much dumber just by the thread title alone.

Never read a thread from someone who doesn't know how to spell the words whole and doesn't
 
Wow... Just wow
1) Indiana is terrible and he had them averaging like 30 pts a game, they just had no defense(We don't really have to worry too much bout that side of the ball
2)Biggest move to hurt us is demoting that outstanding OC we had(sarcasm)
3)Chris said he's excited to play for him and it's april... If last year was a "confident" Chambers then no thanks to that. Maybe this is what he needs to not just be handed the #1 spot.
4) Ronnie is a little fat right now.
5) Patience on the Ricky situation
6) All of #6 was BS
7) It's not about the "fan favorites" it's about W's and L's(6-10 last year)
8) He's done more interviews in the last two months then Satan did his entire tenure in Miami
9) They don't have 40 mil to spend on a left guard
10) That's Mueller not Cam and it would've taken at least a 3rd round pick to "pull the trigger"
And the head coach isn't in charge of the designing and production of new uniforms
 
I honestly think Cam is just what the Doctor ordered. If anything he has shown some ballz something Saban and Wanny both seem to lack. Yea he has cut some players, but those players didnt amount to anything. BTW Randy was very average for us, good TE dont drop that many balls in critical moments.Cam is handling Ricky how you are suppose to, Im a big fan of Ricky, but who says we cant draft a good RB in the later rounds and use Ricky in a trade for a pick next year. I personally think that what Cam did with the offense in SD was incredible and reminds of Sean Payton before he became a Coach. On a final note you can keep Wanny and Saban both, those guys were clowns and had everything going wrong for us.
 
Hello fellow Fins Fans of the WORLD.

Has anyone considered for one second that Cam Cameron might be a worse coach then Saban and Wannestant put together?

1. He has zero track record other then a losing season at Indiana
2. He has fired coaches left and right the latest Bobby Williams.
3. He benched Chris Chambers during mini camp hurting his confidence
4. He called Ronnie Brown fat.
5 He refuses to extend an olive branch to our beloved Ricky.
6. He has thrown Duante under the bus and does'nt refer to him by name.
7. He has cut or traded a third of the team including fan favorites
8. He was condensending to Dan Le Batard during his show.
9. He did'nt address the offensive line again in free agency
10. He can't seem to pull the trigger on the Trent Green trade.

I am not sold on Cameron he just seems to be trying to do to much to fast. If we don't move up and draft Brady Quinn we are going to be in a world of trouble. Cleo Lemon starting at Qb is what I see if Quinn is not drafted and the schedule does not help either.

What happened to those new uniforms they promised? Im not going to the Saban Bubble this year for the draft to many bad memories from last year. Wasted a hole day for Saban to draft Jason Allen. :(

1. Coaches have to start somewhere don't they?
2. Left and right? Hell we had like 30 to begin with. How many has he canned?
3. How can this hurt someone's confidence in April? It should motivate him
4. Never heard of this and if he did, would he lie?
5. Should he have Ricky over for ****tails every Sunday? Wait until he's reinstated, then we'll talk.
6. I'll give you this one. He doesn't seem to want DC. No harm in that
7. A third of the team? That would be about 17-18 players. Fan favorites? So if a guy stinks or you can get value for him, we shouldn't cut him b/c some fans like him?
8. Never listen to that show so who cares. LeBatard is a jerk himself so why should he get the light of day
9. Maybe he didn't want to? Ever heard of the draft?
10. Pulling the trigger means we'd cave into what KC wants for Green. It isnt like it's just us in this trade. Why trade picks when we can wait for KC to cut him?

Foolish foolish thread
 
Don't talk crap about Cam until he (A) Lies to us and takes off like Nick Satan or (B) Tells us Jay Fiedler gives us the best chance to win like Davey Wann...until then, STFU!
 
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