Merged: FA QB Questions/Comparisons

[zodiak]

Dolfans

I was doing some pondering about what direction Coach Saban would go in with
the QB, the first thing I did was try to think of the kind of QB he has had.

If my memory is correct at Mich St. he had Tony Banks at LSU he had Rohan Davey, Matt Mauck & JaMarcus Russell with the exception of Mauck these QB all
are athletic strong armed QB's.

Now onto what direction he might go in terms of Miami.... I dont see a player in the '06 draft that fits the mold ( due either to player skills or draft position) so if you allow for my assumption that Saban can'nt draft his QB I have a question on what you would do if you had the choice to make.

Sign a vet QB or Keep Gus?

So now your choice is to go with a vet for one more season & hope that the '07 draft nets you a QB of the future, with that being said who in the NFL meets the assumed requirements of a Saban QB?

After looking over all currently know scenario's I feel that the QB most likely to be seriously viewed to be a replacement for Gus is Aaron Brooks.

Now I am not sure if I would replace Gus with Brooks but I am curious if you Dolfans would...keep in mind it would be a bridge type deal Brooks would be the QB to bridge the vet with the rookie eventually.

 

[Alex44]

Dolfans

I was doing some pondering about what direction Coach Saban would go in with
the QB, the first thing I did was try to think of the kind of QB he has had.

If my memory is correct at Mich St. he had Tony Banks at LSU he had Rohan Davey, Matt Mauck & JaMarcus Russell with the exception of Mauck these QB all
are athletic strong armed QB's.

Now onto what direction he might go in terms of Miami.... I dont see a player in the '06 draft that fits the mold ( due either to player skills or draft position) so if you allow for my assumption that Saban can'nt draft his QB I have a question on what you would do if you had the choice to make.

Sign a vet QB or Keep Gus?

So now your choice is to go with a vet for one more season & hope that the '07 draft nets you a QB of the future, with that being said who in the NFL meets the assumed requirements of a Saban QB?

After looking over all currently know scenario's I feel that the QB most likely to be seriously viewed to be a replacement for Gus is Aaron Brooks.

Now I am not sure if I would replace Gus with Brooks but I am curious if you Dolfans would...keep in mind it would be a bridge type deal Brooks would be the QB to bridge the vet with the rookie eventually.

Only 3 players id take over gus for next year

Aaron Brooks

Steve Mcnair

Daunte Culpepper

 

[NJFINSFAN1]

Its Linehan's offensive. But he still needs a strong arm. Cutler has a strong arm.

 

[NJFINSFAN1]

Only 3 players id take over gus for next year

Aaron Brooks

Steve Mcnair

Daunte Culpepper

Out of those three, if I had to take one, it would be Brooks.

A: Culpepper is hurt bad, we don't know how he will come back, and he was put up a charges today in Minni on the boat scandal.

B: McNair is a sneeze away from a rocking chair.

 

[adamprez2003]

Dolfans

I was doing some pondering about what direction Coach Saban would go in with
the QB, the first thing I did was try to think of the kind of QB he has had.

If my memory is correct at Mich St. he had Tony Banks at LSU he had Rohan Davey, Matt Mauck & JaMarcus Russell with the exception of Mauck these QB all
are athletic strong armed QB's.

Now onto what direction he might go in terms of Miami.... I dont see a player in the '06 draft that fits the mold ( due either to player skills or draft position) so if you allow for my assumption that Saban can'nt draft his QB I have a question on what you would do if you had the choice to make.

Sign a vet QB or Keep Gus?

So now your choice is to go with a vet for one more season & hope that the '07 draft nets you a QB of the future, with that being said who in the NFL meets the assumed requirements of a Saban QB?

After looking over all currently know scenario's I feel that the QB most likely to be seriously viewed to be a replacement for Gus is Aaron Brooks.

Now I am not sure if I would replace Gus with Brooks but I am curious if you Dolfans would...keep in mind it would be a bridge type deal Brooks would be the QB to bridge the vet with the rookie eventually.

This is what concerns me with Saban. If his QBs in college are an indication of who he wants in the pros we can write off a Super Bowl victory with him as our coach. I really hope that he understands that the Tony Banks, Rohan Davey types don't cut it in the NFL. Brooks would be a mistake.

 

[Marino Forever]

This is what concerns me with Saban. If his QBs in college are an indication of who he wants in the pros we can write off a Super Bowl victory with him as our coach. I really hope that he understands that the Tony Banks, Rohan Davey types don't cut it in the NFL. Brooks would be a mistake.

I don't disagree that Brooks would be a mistake. But saying that we can "write off a SB victory" because of who he chose in college is ludacris. Doug Williams was in that mould (I know he didn't lead the team there, but you don't know he wouldn't have) as well as Steve McNair so I think the NFL game is starting to change from the pocket style passer domination.

 

[houtz]

I think John Kitna would also be a great vet to sign. He is a very good quarterback and could lead the team to victory untill whatever rookie we sign is ready to come in and take over.

 

[Alex44]

This is what concerns me with Saban. If his QBs in college are an indication of who he wants in the pros we can write off a Super Bowl victory with him as our coach. I really hope that he understands that the Tony Banks, Rohan Davey types don't cut it in the NFL. Brooks would be a mistake.

who you have in college means nothing in the NFL, a college QB can be great and not be in the NFL

Ken Dorsey was a great college QB, as was Chris Weinke

So who you had in college really doesnt mean anything

Brooks is a great NFL QB, he has everything you look for, its just to bad he only has one real offensive weapon, no home stadium, and a bad defense behind him that puts him down early

 

[adamprez2003]

I don't disagree that Brooks would be a mistake. But saying that we can "write off a SB victory" because of who he chose in college is ludacris. Doug Williams was in that mould (I know he didn't lead the team there, but you don't know he wouldn't have) as well as Steve McNair so I think the NFL game is starting to change from the pocket style passer domination.

Steve McNAIR and Doug Williams were pocket passers who could run when needed. A better comparison would be Steve Young who was a scrambler type. The thing with all three is they were far more accurate than what Saban had in college. Accuracy is what seperates good QBs from bad QBs in the NFL. The only exceptions I have seen to that are McNabb and Vick and until either one of them hoists up a SuperBowl trophy I will continue to believe that accuracy is what allows you to win a Super BOWL

 

[adamprez2003]

who you have in college means nothing in the NFL, a college QB can be great and not be in the NFL

Ken Dorsey was a great college QB, as was Chris Weinke

So who you had in college really doesnt mean anything

Brooks is a great NFL QB, he has everything you look for, its just to bad he only has one real offensive weapon, no home stadium, and a bad defense behind him that puts him down early

The problem with Brooks is he has small hands which cause his passes to sail periodically which in turn lead to interceptions and prevent him from ever having the ability to be consistently accurate

 

[dolphan117]

This is what concerns me with Saban. If his QBs in college are an indication of who he wants in the pros we can write off a Super Bowl victory with him as our coach. I really hope that he understands that the Tony Banks, Rohan Davey types don't cut it in the NFL. Brooks would be a mistake.

If he had wanted Davey he could have picked him up right after the Pats cut him early this year.

 

[Lappy]

Interesting thread,

I did post in a different thread about a CFL star QB that worked out with the Dolphins last week.

His Name is Casey Printers, he's big, fast and has a very strong arm.....very similar style as Brooks...

Many great QB's have come from the CFL, Moon, Thiesman, Flutie, Garcia to name a few.

Casey Printer's is an athelete that the Dolphins should seriously consider.

 

[Canadi-Phin]

If he likes strong armed, mobile QBs, lets hope Carr gets released and we can pick him up. He's still really young and could take a year to learn our offense.

 

[Agent51]

who you have in college means nothing in the NFL, a college QB can be great and not be in the NFL

Ken Dorsey was a great college QB, as was Chris Weinke

So who you had in college really doesnt mean anything

Brooks is a great NFL QB, he has everything you look for, its just to bad he only has one real offensive weapon, no home stadium, and a bad defense behind him that puts him down early

He had a home stadium last year and sucked. Aaron Brooks is garbage. What has he EVER done? No WAY would I settle for him or McNair. I'm tired of the "one teams trash is another's treasure" theory. We finally need to draft a QB that will be our franchise QB. You know what, I'm not even looking for a star (well, I mean, of course I want a stud QB, lol), just draft a damn QB and finally COMMIT to a QB instead of signing a bunch of career backups every damn year. Every QB since Marino has been a career backup, with the exception of Griese and Frerrotte, who are just AVERAGE starters, and Gus has been playing like a backup this year. Draft a damn QB and show you are commited to a QB and this teams future, stop signing FA QBs every few years. Fieldler, Lucas, Griese, Feeley, Rosenfels, Frerotte, Lemon (hasn't played yet, but seriously, c'mon, he isn't the future), am I forgetting anyone? That is a PISS-POOR attempt at finding a QB for this team since Marino left. I know SABAN didn't do that, but it's time for him to change our history and get us a QB IN THE DRAFT. I'd be willing to wait one more year if we were going to get Brady Quinn, other than that, get one this year. The only exception to this would be if Carr or Brees actually gets let go, in which case I'd take a shot at either of them (preferably Brees, wanted him since Wanny passed him up for *gulp* JAMAR FLETCEHR :smackhead )

 

[finresurrection]

first things first: this is the NFL not the college game. in college, a top QB could survive because the defense was not stacked with NFL caliber players. In the NFL, week in and week out, you have the best trying to tear your head off. how does a QB succeed in the pros?

with his brains. a little brawn can help evade tackles and keep a play alive, but it his brains that will pick apart a defense and allow the correct read to be made and the correct throw to be tossed.

no brains, no superbowl. that simple. Aaron Brooks does not have the brains to be a top-flight QB. I cannot say who in the college level does because it will take a year or two just to get acclimated to the NFL lifestyle. But the guy I see the closest to having the brains necessary is Brady Quinn. just wish we could find a way to get him here.

if we must rely on a vet while a rookie carries the clipboard and learns, stick with Gus. It's just another year, but it's another year where Gus and CC are getting on the same page. another year where CC and the rest of the "O" are just starting to understand Linehan's "O". another year for the O-line under Houck. If we can get Gus's accuracy up to 60%, we can be SB bound next year.