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From PFT. I wouldnt hold my breath waiting on a Favre trade, but would that be cool to have him here?
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Brett Favre?
LORD FAVRE IS DISPLEASED
Packers quarterback Brett Favre was widely believed to be pushing for the addition of receiver Randy Moss to the team. We had heard on numerous occasions that Favre was convinced that Moss would be a Packer in 2007.
But it didn't happen. Two weeks after the fact, Favre is sounding off about it.
"It was a done deal and the stories of how we lost him because he didn't want to restructure his contract were not true," Favre told the Biloxi Sun Herald.
"He was going to wipe his contract clean and sign for $3 million guaranteed, plus a fourth-round draft pick. That would have been a steal. But we were not willing to guarantee part of that $3 million. I even had [agent] Bus [Cook] call up there and tell them I would give up part of my salary to guarantee that part of the money. Apparently that wasn't enough either."
But Moss is getting no guaranteed money in New England either, so if the Packers were willing to pay $3 million with no guaranteed money and give up a fourth-round draft pick, Moss chose the same deal in New England over Green Bay. Indeed, agent Tim DiPiero said on the official Randy Moss web site that the Pats were the first team that they called once Moss got permission to shop himself.
So if what Favre is saying is accurate, Moss wanted a better deal from the Packers than the Patriots were willing to give him.
But, as far as Favre goes, the only thing that matters is what Favre thinks. And he thinks that the team could have had Moss, and that the team is trying to send Favre a subtle message.
"I just want to win; maybe I see things the wrong way," Favre said. "I don't want to ruffle any feathers and I want people to respect me. Sometimes I think it's hard for them to let Brett go. They might think that we pay him a lot of money, but he still gives us the best chance to win. I've never been told that, but there are times when I wonder if I'm the odd man out here and they just don't know how to tell me." (Emphasis added.)
We think he's right. We believe that G.M. Ted Thompson has been playing the passive-aggressive routine over the past two offseasons, saying all the right things about Favre but doing nothing to make him happy. Last April, during the infamous press conference about nothing, Favre said that he wanted to see the team bring in a Reggie White-style free agent. In 13 months since then, the closest Thompson has gotten to it is Charles Woodson, an underachieving defensive back who has been okay at best.
Moss was their best chance to get a true game-changer, and it was well known that Favre wanted him. How could Favre view the decision not to close the deal as anything other than a message to him that his opinion doesn't matter anymore?
"I told [receiver] Donald [Driver] to imagine a one-back set with a three-man rotation," Favre said. "Who would they cover? If they double Randy, Donald would be in single coverage. Last year, he caught 92 balls in double and triple coverage and made the Pro Bowl.
"Our offense struggled last season. If it were not for our defense, we would not have won eight games. Right now, it's hard to be optimistic. I'm not getting any younger and I think everyone knows that. I don't have five years to rebuild. No one in Green Bay is saying rebuild but it's hard to look at where we are going and say, 'How can they not be rebuilding?'
"I don't know if I've lost faith, and I think everyone in the organization wants to win. I just don't know if it includes me. If it's going to be five years from now, I'm not going to be here. This is 17 years for me and I want to win."
So why is Favre saying all of this? We think he's trying to get the Cheeseheads ready for what could come next -- a request for a trade or an abrupt retirement. And, like Donovan McNabb in Philly, Favre wants to be sure that the ultimate blame for any divorce gets put on the team.
And, if this ends in an ugly fashion, we think that's precisely where the blame should be placed. If the Packers don't want Favre, they shouldn't separate in cowardly fashion by frustrating him to the point that he walks. The team should simply end it and move on. (Or move out.)
Hey, maybe they can sign Todd Pinkston.
Would anyone be interested in trading for brett? I actually think that would make the games worth watching
LORD FAVRE IS DISPLEASED
Packers quarterback Brett Favre was widely believed to be pushing for the addition of receiver Randy Moss to the team. We had heard on numerous occasions that Favre was convinced that Moss would be a Packer in 2007.
But it didn't happen. Two weeks after the fact, Favre is sounding off about it.
"It was a done deal and the stories of how we lost him because he didn't want to restructure his contract were not true," Favre told the Biloxi Sun Herald.
"He was going to wipe his contract clean and sign for $3 million guaranteed, plus a fourth-round draft pick. That would have been a steal. But we were not willing to guarantee part of that $3 million. I even had [agent] Bus [Cook] call up there and tell them I would give up part of my salary to guarantee that part of the money. Apparently that wasn't enough either."
But Moss is getting no guaranteed money in New England either, so if the Packers were willing to pay $3 million with no guaranteed money and give up a fourth-round draft pick, Moss chose the same deal in New England over Green Bay. Indeed, agent Tim DiPiero said on the official Randy Moss web site that the Pats were the first team that they called once Moss got permission to shop himself.
So if what Favre is saying is accurate, Moss wanted a better deal from the Packers than the Patriots were willing to give him.
But, as far as Favre goes, the only thing that matters is what Favre thinks. And he thinks that the team could have had Moss, and that the team is trying to send Favre a subtle message.
"I just want to win; maybe I see things the wrong way," Favre said. "I don't want to ruffle any feathers and I want people to respect me. Sometimes I think it's hard for them to let Brett go. They might think that we pay him a lot of money, but he still gives us the best chance to win. I've never been told that, but there are times when I wonder if I'm the odd man out here and they just don't know how to tell me." (Emphasis added.)
We think he's right. We believe that G.M. Ted Thompson has been playing the passive-aggressive routine over the past two offseasons, saying all the right things about Favre but doing nothing to make him happy. Last April, during the infamous press conference about nothing, Favre said that he wanted to see the team bring in a Reggie White-style free agent. In 13 months since then, the closest Thompson has gotten to it is Charles Woodson, an underachieving defensive back who has been okay at best.
Moss was their best chance to get a true game-changer, and it was well known that Favre wanted him. How could Favre view the decision not to close the deal as anything other than a message to him that his opinion doesn't matter anymore?
"I told [receiver] Donald [Driver] to imagine a one-back set with a three-man rotation," Favre said. "Who would they cover? If they double Randy, Donald would be in single coverage. Last year, he caught 92 balls in double and triple coverage and made the Pro Bowl.
"Our offense struggled last season. If it were not for our defense, we would not have won eight games. Right now, it's hard to be optimistic. I'm not getting any younger and I think everyone knows that. I don't have five years to rebuild. No one in Green Bay is saying rebuild but it's hard to look at where we are going and say, 'How can they not be rebuilding?'
"I don't know if I've lost faith, and I think everyone in the organization wants to win. I just don't know if it includes me. If it's going to be five years from now, I'm not going to be here. This is 17 years for me and I want to win."
So why is Favre saying all of this? We think he's trying to get the Cheeseheads ready for what could come next -- a request for a trade or an abrupt retirement. And, like Donovan McNabb in Philly, Favre wants to be sure that the ultimate blame for any divorce gets put on the team.
And, if this ends in an ugly fashion, we think that's precisely where the blame should be placed. If the Packers don't want Favre, they shouldn't separate in cowardly fashion by frustrating him to the point that he walks. The team should simply end it and move on. (Or move out.)
Hey, maybe they can sign Todd Pinkston.
Would anyone be interested in trading for brett? I actually think that would make the games worth watching
cnc66
wiley veteran bad spelur
waaaaaa..waaaaaaa :boohoo:
Smoke
ZT = HOF
Wow, Favre is making it a tradition to torment his team every offseason. I highly doubt he leaves Green Bay although IMO I think the Aaron Rodgers experience should begin (if he's healthy).
Favre brings alot of negative publicity to the Packers when he doesn't get his way. He's also clearly declining in his level of play. They should bring in the young former first round pick in Rodgers and let Favre do what he wants.
As for us getting Favre, I don't think so. Regardless of the fact that I don't care for the guy, Cameron likes accurate QBs who make minimal mistakes. If Cameron wants a QB with a cannon and who is mobile he can hold onto Daunte.
Favre brings alot of negative publicity to the Packers when he doesn't get his way. He's also clearly declining in his level of play. They should bring in the young former first round pick in Rodgers and let Favre do what he wants.
As for us getting Favre, I don't think so. Regardless of the fact that I don't care for the guy, Cameron likes accurate QBs who make minimal mistakes. If Cameron wants a QB with a cannon and who is mobile he can hold onto Daunte.
would you trade for brett farve?
according to profootballtalk.com farve asked green bay to trade him days after the draft and that he wants out...it goes on to say mccarthy calmed him down but pft thinks it's not over and that thompson there gm or farve will be gone by the 2007 season interesting i'd trade for him what would you give up for him i'd give up a 2! miami would be a perfect place for him!
according to profootballtalk.com farve asked green bay to trade him days after the draft and that he wants out...it goes on to say mccarthy calmed him down but pft thinks it's not over and that thompson there gm or farve will be gone by the 2007 season interesting i'd trade for him what would you give up for him i'd give up a 2! miami would be a perfect place for him!
phinfanfrommd
Rickys Dealer
he will never leave Green Bay
DonShula84
Sporty Don
He isnt going anywhere, and even if he wanted to be traded he wouldnt have any suitors that would make him happy. Coming to Miami, or Cleveland, or Oakland doesnt get him any closer to a championship so what would be the point?
Phinfan1980
Starter
No Dolfan in his right mind would want to see Favre in Aqua and Orange. He will break Marino's TD records if he plays in 2007 and it would not sit well with fans to see him do it on our team.
I just hope he's disgruntled enough to simply retire now and leave Marino's TD record intact.
I just hope he's disgruntled enough to simply retire now and leave Marino's TD record intact.
mattgilm
Island Dolphin
ESPN is reporting this story right now.
Bonedoc7777
Perennial All-Pro
one to two years to get beck ready
kashbo
TED GINN BOO AND A YEAH
NOT!!!!!!!
Brett favre supporter
Very nice!!!!!!!!!!!!