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Im not convinced

..that the Patriots are just as good as they were the past few years. They lost two coordinators and a few key players to free agency and injury. Bellicheck is a smart coach and is one of the best in the league, maybe all-time. But I am not convinced that this is the same team that won three of the last four Super Bowls. This is why:

-They beat a very, very bad Oakland team, by just 10 points.
-They lost to an overrated Carolina team(who we beat and who were a challenge to us since we are not considered to be an elite power in the league).
-They barely beat Pittsburg by a FIELD GOAL. The experts were willing to write them off after the Carolina defeat but they "bounced back" to being one of the "league's elite". How? They barely won! The extra time put onto the game helped(in a very small way) as well.

There's no way Id consider the Pats to still be among the league's elite because they got a lucky break in a Steeler game because they have a great kicker. What would the experts be saying had Viniteri missed and the Pats wind up losing in OT? Dont get me wrong, as I said, Bellicheck is a great coach with a great QB whose team does overcome adversity. But the Carolina game revealed a lot of problems this team has and are going to be more evident as the season goes on. Right now, theyre losing to San Diego 24-17. If they beat SD, this would be another game they win on the ropes. A dominant team should be doing that, dominating. I have no seen one game in which the Patsies dominated. Dont be fooled, this is not the same team we've seen win Super Bowls. The sports press continues to make this team look like theyre still among the elite, but it is the Dolphins that are actually looking like the team to beat in the AFC east. Book it.
 
And in support of your argument (which I agree with), they just got mauled by SD.

That said, I still think they're one of the better teams in the league. But from what I've seen, they won't be back in the SB this year. No way.
 
gunka said:
And in support of your argument (which I agree with), they just got mauled by SD.

That said, I still think they're one of the better teams in the league. But from what I've seen, they won't be back in the SB this year. No way.
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I still think theyre a playoff team, but not much more than that. We are now the power in the AFC East.
 
Agreed.......

Pats look like a 9-7 team.Even if they make it into playoffs,they wont go far with their injuries.

Heres to the end of hearing about that dynasty!!!

:drinkers:
 
Phinzman said:
Agreed.......

Pats look like a 9-7 team.Even if they make it into playoffs,they wont go far with their injuries.

Heres to the end of hearing about that dynasty!!!

:drinkers:
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It feels good, doesnt it? :D
 
Have you noticed?

The luck, calls, and ball bounces that have gone the Pats way the last 4 years, arent happening this year. Hey, they won 3 out of the last 4 SB's, but going all the way back to the first one with the tuck rule; I don't think they are as good as what has happened. It seems every year luck was on there side, and dead set against us. It is just nice to see the Pats have to deal some bad bounces for once, and not everything going there way.
 
67Stang said:
The luck, calls, and ball bounces that have gone the Pats way the last 4 years, arent happening this year. Hey, they won 3 out of the last 4 SB's, but going all the way back to the first one with the tuck rule; I don't think they are as good as what has happened. It seems every year luck was on there side, and dead set against us. It is just nice to see the Pats have to deal some bad bounces for once, and not everything going there way.
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NO, they were still getting lucky until today. For example: Steelers force 3 turnovers in the first half but still shoot themselves in the foot and let New England hang around and win after DOMINATING them for three quarters. THEN on top of that, they somehow get a break with a 52 second clock error. New England should be 1-3.
 
ah-----hahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

67Stang said:
The luck, calls, and ball bounces that have gone the Pats way the last 4 years, arent happening this year. Hey, they won 3 out of the last 4 SB's, but going all the way back to the first one with the tuck rule; I don't think they are as good as what has happened. It seems every year luck was on there side, and dead set against us. It is just nice to see the Pats have to deal some bad bounces for once, and not everything going there way.
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yea, the are human after all...im glad san diego busted their mouth wide open....honestly, im sick of fatBellycheck( with his ugly hoody) and tom brady...down down down, the tyson goes down!!!!!!!!!!!hahahahahahahhaahhaahahhahahahahahahahhhaahaha
 
I am always happy to see the Pats go down in flames like they are right now. However, lets not get to excited too soon.
 
I think there will be a lot of new kids on the block this year. Tampa Bay, Cincy just to name a few. San Diego will turn it around and win the division. KC defense still bad. Oakland is not good. Dallas is still Dallas. Jets are done and everyone knows it. Patriots will be good on offense still and Brady will still get points for them but the defense is now officially banged up for the year. I also heard the DT #93 had his knee wrapped up and didnt play much in second half. me thinks the Pats are done but still can beat the Jets and Bills.
 
To me NE is not a dominating team they have alot of luck on their side they are nowhere as good as the 49er's of the 80's or the Cowboys of the 90's. 49ers and Cowboys would blow the best team out by 30 points. NE just hangs around until they get a break on a unforced fumble by the other teams offense(lucky) I remember 1 game i cant remember the team though the team drive all the way down the field to the goal line had a chance to go ahead by 10 points with a 1:50 to go then fumble the ball on the qb rb exchange. I thought to myself it has happened again the pats drive down the field and score.
 
Even during their runs of the last few yars, they played a lot of close games. They were never a super powerhouse. This year, they seem a little out of sync and that shouldn't be a suprice losing their OC and DC. I'm glad to see them struggling a bit, but thay are still very solid and a top 3 team in the afc. They haven't completely fallen off a cliff... yet.
 
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