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From Drew Rosenhaus on Twitter:

Kudos to the Miami Dolphins for spending the most cash over cap this yr. It's really disappointing that so many teams are way under the cap.

http://twitter.com/RosenhausSports

I'm not even exactly sure what that term 'cashover cap' means. Probably refers to actual money being paid out this year (as opposed to cap numbers which some gets spread over life of the contract)

....but leave it to an agent to think that it is a shame that teams are managing the cap well. Sorry Drew, I don't think you're going to get many fans agreeing with you that it's disappointing.
 
Ha, ha, ha. That is funny that he'd make that comment. I'm sure he meant it as a complement, but I'm not sure I'd take it that way if I were the club and as a fan.
:lol:
 
Drew kills me.
:chuckle:
Imagine that. An agent pleased that a team has spent lots of money on players.
 
He's a scumbag that degrades the game

Could no agree with you more... I strongly feel that he is the reason his clients hold out. He is all about the money and represents his players as money hungry even if all they want to do is play.

I wish he would get banned from the game.
 
I don't think players hold out now as much as they used to in the past. Its not just the agent but the player too. On the Joe Rose show on WQAM they talked about guaranteed money for 1st round rookies....making more money than established veterans, but noted that some teams don't pay their veterans more and are well under the cap...'not spending money on veterans' kinda thing. I think his twitter message was taking out of context.
 
Could no agree with you more... I strongly feel that he is the reason his clients hold out. He is all about the money and represents his players as money hungry even if all they want to do is play.

I wish he would get banned from the game.
lmao. That is his JOB......

I like the guy. He is good at what he does.
 
So we are the highest spending team this year, is that what he is saying?
 
why dont you tell us how you really feel?

HaHa I suppose that is how i got that little red dot below my name......i think the reputation thing is silly. I am rarely objectionable in this forum, but there it is, the little red dot. Oh well, i still love this place and i even still like reading Mod's posts although they have infracted me a couple of times.
 
Found this in ESPN article:
In the simplest terms, cash over cap is essentially the difference between a team's true payroll and the NFL salary cap in a given season. Many of the league's high-revenue teams, but certainly not all of them, have a considerable advantage over the clubs occupying the low-revenue rungs in terms of cash over cap.

To understand the concept of cash over cap, one must understand that the salary cap is just a bookkeeping number, one that can be massaged by amortizing signing bonuses and with other mechanisms. The cap has never been indicative of a team's payroll. The Washington Redskins, believed to be the highest revenue producing machine in the league, have had payrolls well over $100 million the last few seasons, even though the highest salary cap level ever was in 2005, at $85.5 million.

For the fans who can't get their heads around how this works, here's a simple example: Let's say the Redskins signed an unrestricted free agent to a five-year deal that includes a signing bonus of $10 million and a base salary of $1 million for the first season of the contract. In salary cap terms, the Redskins are charged only $3 million, arrived at by prorating the signing bonus over five years and then adding the base salary. But in real dollars expended, or payroll, that player cost the Redskins $11 million for the first year. That's a difference of $8 million between what the player was actually paid and what his cap charge was for the initial season of the contract.

Multiply that example by several player acquisitions, prominent free agents or high-round draft choices, and the total cash over cap is considerable.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=2352890

Another take (Rosenhaus' tweets translated) from a Packer's fan web site:
Then Rosenhaus went on to rant (or is it a whine?) about how certain NFL teams (like the Packers) are way under the salary cap. (Nevermind the fact that the Packers have a boatload of free agents heading into contract years. So it's not like Ted Thompson is going to pocket the leftover money. It will all be used.) Here's what Rosenhaus had to say, with my translation to help you along: Kudos to the Miami Dolphins for spending the most cash over cap this yr. It's really disappointing that so many teams are way under the cap.Translation: Thanks for being one of the teams that pays exorbitant signing bonuses, which are the only true guaranteed part of any contract. So what if you have tons of dead money on your cap down the road, and every roster decision you make has be done with both eyes on the salary cap? You guys are doing a great job. Oh, and thanks for contributing to the widening disparity between big and small market teams...and getting your teams into financial "troubles" so much so that you cancel out the CBA because you're not making as many millions as you used to. Don't let anybody tell you that if you ran your business better -- like not spending cash over cap -- that you would be doing just fine. Just ignore them. How can a team legitimately say that they are committed to winning & then still be millions of dollars under the salary cap? Translation: I'm conveniently ignoring the fact that each team uses up every bit of salary cap space by the time it has to (although many use dummy clauses to get there). And I also conveniently ignore all those new contracts and contract extensions I'm always pushing for my guys at this time of year. Because we all know if there was no salary-cap space, then none of those deals could get done. Just move along.The NFL owners complain about escalating player costs and yet so many of these owners don't spend up to the salary cap.Translation: It's really irritating to me that nobody has signed Rex Grossman or Sam Madison yet. They're calling me every day. Why is there so much controversy when a player who out-performs his contract asks for a increased deal? NFL teams release players everyday who have several years left on their contracts. It's an unfair double standard that teams can cut players before they finish their deal. And players who ask for a raise are criticized. The system needs to work both ways. There is nothing wrong with players getting their worth.Translation: Let's also ignore the fact that 99% of American workers have no guaranteed contracts. They also have the right to ask for a raise when they think it is warranted. And management has a right to say no. You know what happens when they don't get that raise? They go look for another job...even if that might take two or three years. We'll also ignore that millions of people have been laid off or have had to swallow furloughs or even wage cuts (ahem).

http://jsonline.mobi/s.aspx?id=urn:publicid:jsonline.com:522:45673587
 
HaHa I suppose that is how i got that little red dot below my name......i think the reputation thing is silly. I am rarely objectionable in this forum, but there it is, the little red dot. Oh well, i still love this place and i even still like reading Mod's posts although they have infracted me a couple of times.

;) I may've infracted you, Rock...But I've never given you bad rep :lol:
 
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