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MERGED: Michael Sam to be First Openly Gay Player - Okay w/ Phins drafting him?

jason_taylor said:
ok bro here is YOU AN EXAMPLE ,so your telling me if YOU was in a shower with 15-20 of the hotest women in the world , that your just going to keep on walking ?? or are you going to stand there saying , daaaaaaauuumn , this is a question for all you guys , IMHO i would stand there with my eye balls bugged out and looking as hard as i can look ....
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So despite the fact that this problem never came up (pun intended) in his college locker room, you're convinced it will be a problem in an NFL locker room.
 
Crazy.....38 pages. After last year absolutely not drafting the guy. We had our circus. Also coming out of the closet does not make a hero in this day and age. We all have family or friends that are gay. Not a big deal anymore. Jackie Robinson was a hero. He couldn't decide weather he wanted to be black or pick his time that he felt was best for him to come out as a black man. Not even close, if the guy can play he will have a job. If not he wont.
 
Phinatic8u said:
you can't compare the 2..apples to oranges.
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i think i see , what im trying to say is if your stright and its women naked in a locker room with you , your going to stand there with eyes bugged out looking , same with gay , if its men there going to be doing the same thing , its only nature .....
 
Phinatic8u said:
Because. One is a guy looking at women is different than gay guys looking at other men. It's not the same.
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lol i still dont understand lol why wouldnt it be ,ive heard my cousin that was gay , and was my best friend , tell me more than once when we hung out at the mall , he would see a certain guy and say damn id love to grab that ass , or he would say damn id love to take him to bed .....
 
Jason, I would think it would be the same as well. Its common sense right. I am attracted to women and have checked out a hot lesbian. Isnt that the same thing?
 
Danny said:
So you're saying he came out cause it was in his best interest to come out? believe you might be right. What I can't understand is people callng him "a hero".....hard to imgine that a gay man coming out of the closet is now call that.......I think he might as well come out and say it which he did but that desn't make him a hero. Notsaying you called him that but there're people calling him a hero......that word is being misussed a lot these days.

Ozzy rules!!
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I think it was in his interest. Not to be a martyr or activist or anything, but if teams were asking and he lied, it could of been a lot worse as teams would of thought he was hiding something. We all know conjecture could get guys knocked out of the draft

I think its amazing how his teammates at mizzou kept it private for so long. That's really amazing nowadays
 
finns13 said:
Jason, I would think it would be the same as well. Its common sense right. I am attracted to women and have checked out a hot lesbian. Isnt that the same thing?
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yes , its natural your a guy , it dosent matter if it is a lesbian , she has what a stright guy is looking for, no matter if they are lesbian , same here i would be looking to , but thats just natural ...
 
FearTheBeard said:
There are some god awful idiotic comments here, unsurprisingly. To blanket all of them, nobody should have any say over how someone lives their lives if it isn't detrimental to anyone. Nobody should base their life on a fairy tale book. People should understand why it's a big deal he came out, because it's not accepted by a very poorly educated portion of the population and for that reason he's expected to live a lie. A straight athlete doesn't have to say it because there's no stigma that comes with it. Tweeting your girlfriend on twitter isn't going to get people's pitchforks out, tweeting your boyfriend is. It's embarrassing that some people still feel they should have any say over how a person lives their life, good for Sam. I don't care what his sexual preference is, everyone's entitled to live their life the way they choose and that's a fact, he's not hurting anyone and hopefully this inspires other gay athletes to open up and not be forced to live in darkness throughout their professional careers.

Let me also add, everyone's entitled to religion or spirituality, that's fine. There's good values in there, and if you need it to live a good accepting life more power to you. But don't use it to put down other people just because you don't agree with them.
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Ive read most of this whole topic just to see how people felt. It took some strange turns including turning this in to a religious issue. The one thing that keeps popping up is the insults that some hurl at the others . i think its pretty bad that you cant explain your point of view with out using insults. I dont think eveyone who disagrees with you is poorly educated
 
jason_taylor said:
ok bro here is YOU AN EXAMPLE ,so your telling me if YOU was in a shower with 15-20 of the hotest women in the world , that your just going to keep on walking ?? or are you going to stand there saying , daaaaaaauuumn , this is a question for all you guys , IMHO i would stand there with my eye balls bugged out and looking as hard as i can look ....
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Jason Taylor was one of my favorite Dolphins, so I cant help but look at your avatar and smile. However, we agree to disagree on this one. I grew up in a foreign country and went to nude beaches regularly where there were a lot of good bodies to look at, but believe it or not, it was not sexual, it was just natural. We didn't sport erections when we saw someone attractive - OK to look but it wasn't sexual. It seems like you equate a naked body with sex.
Michael Sam has been playing competitive sports for most of his life. He has been accustomed to showering with his teammates after the game. It is not a time to check out a friend's equipment, it is simply a matter of cleaning up after a game with teammates.
Just because he prefers sex with men in the privacy of his bedroom, doesn't mean that he sees the lockerroom showers as the place for his eyes to feast and prey on other guys. It doesn't work like that. Maybe I'm not explaining it clearly enough, I sense that you are just being honest, but it is possible to shower with 15 -20 of the hottest women and be natural without sexual.
 
finintheburgh said:
Ive read most of this whole topic just to see how people felt. It took some strange turns including turning this in to a religious issue. The one thing that keeps popping up is the insults that some hurl at the others . i think its pretty bad that you cant explain your point of view with out using insults. I dont think eveyone who disagrees with you is poorly educated
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You took one minor component of what I said. I do believe some people are poorly educated on the matter, while I also acknowledged that I understand the need for religion with certain people. I find people casting around their religion as fact and putting down a person based on his sexual orientation is baffling. It's extremely unfair and shows a lack of compassion for people. Sorry that I have to use insults, I find it insulting that such a large part of the population can insult a man for his sexual orientation.
 
Miami is in no position to be bringing in massive locker room distractions.

I am certain this is one player that is off board to the fins.
 
If I may add.
I have nothing against Michael Sam or his decision.

Miami is just cannot afford locker room controversy or drama right now.
 
FearTheBeard said:
You took one minor component of what I said. I do believe some people are poorly educated on the matter, while I also acknowledged that I understand the need for religion with certain people. I find people casting around their religion as fact and putting down a person based on his sexual orientation is baffling. It's extremely unfair and shows a lack of compassion for people. Sorry that I have to use insults, I find it insulting that such a large part of the population can insult a man for his sexual orientation.
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How can you be poorly educated on what gay is? Do you really believe that anyone who posted on here is that stupid that they dont know what gay means?

some people just dont like homosexuality , it doesnt mean its always religious nor does it mean that they are pooly educated.
 
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