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Merged: Start Sage, The Man can throw

Time for next year's draft!

Our QB's are average or below. The only hope is that whoever QBs the team will not throw too many interceptions and the other skilled players can make things happen for the team.
 
SabanScience said:
Fine with me if Sage starts. If not Sage, then Gus.

No way Feeley should start. He's been given chances and he has blown them.

Because of one bad game.......there is a reason why Sage is 3rd string. He will not be our solution at QB. Play Gus or AJ!! Sage will ruin our year! He will not find success against any first team defenses in the NFL! And speaking of chances, Sage has been here for a while and has never been more than a 3rd string QB. Get used to it and get real! Feeley has had a year and a half with two different offenses, if he has run out of chances so has Sage!
 
ya sage played against third and fourth string players, but he also threw to third and fourth string players and excelled... feely has been playing with and against second string and has been sucking pretty bad like i've been saying all along cut the bum... we should have kept berlin instead of feely.
we would have had a low cost qb who could have grown instead of high priced loser like feely as a third string....
 
cnyphinfan said:
Because of one bad game.......there is a reason why Sage is 3rd string. He will not be our solution at QB. Play Gus or AJ!! Sage will ruin our year! He will not find success against any first team defenses in the NFL! And speaking of chances, Sage has been here for a while and has never been more than a 3rd string QB. Get used to it and get real! Feeley has had a year and a half with two different offenses, if he has run out of chances so has Sage!

One bad game? Are you kidding me? Did you not watch AJ last year (hint: 5 picks returned for scores by the other team which also happened again in this "one bad game")? Do you know nothing of Gus' mediocre career? Which he is following up with a worse than mediocre preseason. This thing we know, DW always went with "his guys" even if they weren't the best guys. They only brought in Sage as a back-up, never to challenge for the starting QB spot and I seriously doubt DW ever gave Sage that chance. The fact that we're even having this conversation shows how bad the QB situation is. And as far as changing systems, Sage obviously seems to have picked it up better than AJ and sadly plays it better than Gus, who supposedly already knew the system. If Saban chooses Sage, I'm all for it.
 
Ryan Leaf sucks too. Let's bring him in for a look.
 
I've been saying go with AJ because a 34 year-old Frerotte is merely a stopgap. Ina year or two, we'd have to turn it over to a young draft pick or another Fiedler/Feeley (someone else's backup), who would struggle for at least a year or two. By the time we had a quality QB, our current starting defense would be very, very old:

JT (34)
Carter (35)
Traylor (40)
Holliday (33)
Zach (35)
Seau (39)
Spragan (32)
Madison (34)
Howard (31)
TJones (34)
Bell (30)

True, we drafted a few guys who look like they may be good players, but none who give us reason to believe they'll be as good as JT, Zach, Carter, Madison, Seau, etc. have been. Even if Gus plays reasonably well this year, in the long run it just doesn't make sense.

Sage deserves a shot. He's younger, taller and more athletic than Feeley. He was drafted higher in the same draft. He was as good, or better, than Feeley in college. He was as good or better than Feeley last preseason. He was much better this preseason. Let's face it, Sage played well this preseason. Not just better than the other guys, but legitimately well. Yes, it was against 2nd and 3rd stringers, but that's also what he had on his side. As bad as our starting OL has been, our 2nd and 3rd string OL is even worse.

Sage didn't play particularly well int he finale against Baltimore last year, but he did do some things well. He threw the best long pass we've seen in years on the opening play to Chambers. He didn't lose his composure. And it was against a very good Ravens defense. I don't see the worst-case scenario with Sage starting as being any worse than that for Gus or AJ. They are all equally capable of truly sucking.

It may be that, whoever we start this year, we'll be left int he unfortunate situation described above re: the age of our defense. But at least there is a chance that Sage could develop into that guy. There have been many good, even Hall of Fame, QBs who weren't good until they were 28 or older. The odds are against it for Sage, but at least there's some chance. The same can't be said of Gus.
 
Phinz1972 said:
Yep, lets play a Qb that played against 3rd string and some of hte 2nd string players of the Falcons......yep, he will be able to pick apart the best of the best defenses in the regular season.


From what I read, Gus and AJ were throwing against those same 2nd and 3rd string Falcons and didn't have near the success that Sage did. Don't get me wrong, I am not advocating that Sage start (though I wouldn't mind if he did), but it points out just how bad we are at QB.

I am starting to fear that the sports prognosticators that have been predicting the same or worse season record as last year's might be right.
 
dolfan_1999 said:
There's no doubt that Sage improves every year. But how will he play against the first string that he will face in the regular season games. He's been going up against 2nd and 3rd strings in the preseason games. Granted he can't do worse than AJ and Gus but can he really do better.
When Fiedler was starter I thought Lucas would be better, or Griese Jr. would be better. We saw how those went. Let's think about all the factors before we go off on a tangent.
I think Gus should start and Sage should be second and AJ should hang out with the kickers.


You are presuming the capacity for a winning season this year. Breaking even at this point is something that seems an almost overwhelming task. Why not fully evaluate all our talent during real games? I have consistantly said that if we must suffer a losing or sub-par season, we should have a very clear assessment of talent at every position. The only way to do that is by putting them in the game.

This is going to be a long rebuild :(
 
Sage4StartingQB said:
Hey, Sage threw 4 over 200 yards in one half (even if it was against the second + third team defense)! The fact is Feeley and Frerotte could do that against a team full of grandmas! Start Sage now!!!!!!!!!!

IF you agree with me reply w/ a nice i want Sage....Show ur support...i want as many replies as possible!

the problem is, that was our last pre-season game....we should've let Sage compete against the first team to see how he'd do....it's too late now, I dont want to experiment on a regular season game....

Either way, we're going into the season with an ugly QB contreversy (again)
 
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