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MERGED: With no new CBA, Ronnie returns to Dolphins in 2010

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It turns out Brown signed a contract that was for five years plus an option year when he was the second-overall selection in the draft in 2005. And according to Brown himself, the option is tied to whether the NFL and players reach a collective bargaining agreement for the 2010 season. Currently, the CBA is scheduled to expire after this season.

"The way it works," Brown told me, "is if they reach a new agreement, this is my last season under contract and I become a free agent. If they don't come to an agreement for 2010, I'm under contract to the Dolphins for another year. I have to play another year under the old contract because it becomes a six-year contract."

So if the players' union and the NFL do not reach a new collective bargaining agreement, Brown's option kicks in and he is scheduled to make a $5 million base salary in 2010. Brown is scheduled to make $3.608 million this season.
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All the talk lately has been that there will be no new CBA agreement next year.
 
It gives us one more year to lock up Ronnie & we might be able to use that money for Fasano & Penny.
 
I think its going to be irrelevant when the players strike next year. I hope you guys enjoy the Marlins because that's all you'll be watching this time next year.
 
I just cant imagine the NFL without a cap... its gonna destroy the game...
 
NBP81 said:
I just cant imagine the NFL without a cap... its gonna destroy the game...
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No it won't. Somebody graphed out the spread of wins and losses during the 70s and 90s, since those were the last and first solid decades under both systems. The bell curve was very, very similar. The only change will be that there won't be as much parity, but I doubt it will be starkly different.
 
IronChef said:
Do you think there will actually be a strike? And if so for how long?
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I think as of right now, there is a much better chance of a lockout then no lockout.

I don't know how long it would last, but I think if it did come to that and they started missing games, that the two sides would do something to salvage a short season in 2011.
 
Pretty sure we were talking about this like 2 years ago. Remeber that? They delayed the deadline by like 3 weeks and eventually got it done. I expect the same here. Paul Tag gave everything he had to make that work and I expect the same from Goodell. No worries and while I think it may take another deadline stretch to make it work, it will get done and we will resign ronnie before this year ends.
 
sharp said:
Pretty sure we were talking about this like 2 years ago. Remeber that? They delayed the deadline by like 3 weeks and eventually got it done. I expect the same here. Paul Tag gave everything he had to make that work and I expect the same from Goodell. No worries and while I think it may take another deadline stretch to make it work, it will get done and we will resign ronnie before this year ends.
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That whole thing was to prevent a year like the current one we are having. They were about to enter the last capped year and they wanted to prevent that. We are currently in the last capped year.
 
sharp said:
Pretty sure we were talking about this like 2 years ago. Remeber that? They delayed the deadline by like 3 weeks and eventually got it done. I expect the same here. Paul Tag gave everything he had to make that work and I expect the same from Goodell. No worries and while I think it may take another deadline stretch to make it work, it will get done and we will resign ronnie before this year ends.
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What you have to understand is that this is something that the Players Association has been gearing up for. They're prepared to not play, and I think they're going to be drawing a hard line as to what they want this time around. And what that want might be very very difficult for the owners to concede, so this could get very ugly.

New CBA's are negotiated every couple of years in lots of sports. But sometimes the players choose to make a stand and it looks very likely that this could happen.
 
I used to be a huge baseball fan too. I grew up watching the Dodgers spring training games in the 70's at Dodgertown in Vero Beach. It was awesome front row seats next to the Dodger dugout and the only thing seperating you from the field was a 4ft high chainlink fence, so you had better be paying attention! Heck when I first started going Tommy Lasorda was the 3rd base coach and Walt Alston was still in the dugout! I grew up loving Baseball. I watched it all the time lived through a couple of strikes and then came the last one. When those jerks went on strike the last time and they had to cancel the World Series because they wanted more money while making an average of over a million a year it proved to me they really didn't give a rats azz about anything but themselves. Up until then, any team through their farm system and proper trades could be competitive and had a real chance of fielding a winner. After that salaries have skyrocketed and the only teams that are truly competitive year in and year out are the teams with the biggest wallets. Sure some teams break through now and again but they are quickly broken up because they can't afford to keep them together. I have not watched a baseball game in 15 years now. I will never watch one again.

The NFL through this time period has enjoyed phenomenal growth and Baseball has gone from the top dog to realistically the 3rd choice behind the NFL and College football, sometimes behind basketball. The NFL has had a workable, logical salary cap in place throughout. All teams if properly run can be truly competitive every year. They don't have to outspend and overpay for players (high 1st round draft picks excluded). It is truly a level playing field and with the increase in the cap each year with a coinciding increase in the salary floor, players have enjoyed tremendous salary growth as well. This is the big secret to the NFL's success in the past 15-20 years true parity. Baseball has forgotten this and has lost fans and ratings ever since. Has anyone looked at the ratings for the World Series for the last decade. They have been steadily dropping and during a time when College and the NFL have enjoyed stunning increases. I think more people watched the NFL draft than the World Series this past year.

Anyway the point of all this incoherence is the NFL must solve this labor dispute with the salary cap intact and hopefully a rookie slotting system. If the NFL moves out of the salary cap era and goes without like baseball, it will ruin the sport. There will no longer be the one great advantage that football enjoys, true parity. It will turn into who can outspend who and everyone else can suck on the scraps. I do not want to see that happen to the greatest sport on the planet.
 
I would not plan on there being a season if there is no CBA.

The small market and cash strapped owners (and this includes many) will not allow the Cowboys, Redskins, Patriots, Eagles, and NY teams to spend without care while they cant afford to ante up in a non capped year.

I predict there will be a lockout if no new CBA is reached. Lets hope that Goddell has the credibility with the union and the owners to FORCE them into an agreement, much like Tags did before. For all of Tagliabue's faults, and there were many, there was no work stoppage in the NFL since 1987, before many here were born. And thats to his credit.

Goddell has drawn rave reviews from just about everyone due to his hardline against player misconduct. But thats easy, isnt it? The new CBA is going to be difficult because lines are drawn in the sand. The players are adamant that the owners open their books and the owners are equally adamant about a rookie cap.

I think a rookie cap might be doable, provided a rookie has a way through performance to become a restricted FA before 3-4 years. For example, a player might be slotted with the first pick to make 15 mil over five years guaranteed. However, if he makes the Pro Bowl for two straight seasons, he becomes a RFA, where the team that picks him has to now pay him or he will be free to go to another team....or something like this.

Bottom line, no CBA, no Ronnie, no season.
 
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