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Zach Snubbed from All-Pro Team

OFFENSE

Quarterback

Peyton Manning, Indianapolis, 37 1/2; Tom Brady, New England, 10 1/2; Carson Palmer, Cincinnati, 2.

x-Running Backs

Shaun Alexander, Seattle, 49; Tiki Barber, NY Giants, 43; Larry Johnson, Kansas City, 4; LaDainian Tomlinson, San Diego, 3.

Fullback

Mack Strong, Seattle, 28; Lorenzo Neal, San Diego, 16; Kyle Johnson, Denver, 2; Tony Richardson, Kansas City, 1; Damian Shelton, Buffalo, 1; Dan Kreider, Pittsburgh, 1; Greg Jones, Jacksonville, 1.

Tight End

Antonio Gates, San Diego, 50.

Wide Receivers

Steve Smith, Carolina, 44 1/2; Chad Johnson, Cincinnati, 19; Santana Moss, Washington, 15; Marvin Harrison, Indianapolis, 13; Larry Fitzgerald, Arizona, 3 1/2; Torry Holt, St. Louis, 3; Hines Ward, Pittsburgh, 1; Rod Smith, Denver, 1.

Tackles

Walter Jones, Seattle, 47; Willie Anderson, Cincinnati, 30; William Roaf, Kansas City, 11; Jon Jansen, Washington, 4; Jonathan Ogden, Baltimore, 3; Chris Samuels, Washington, 3; Orlando Pace, St. Louis, 1; Levi Jones, Cincinnati, 1.

Guards

Steve Hutchinson, Seattle, 40; Alan Faneca, Pittsburgh, 18; Brian Waters, Kansas City, 18; Will Shields, Kansas City, 13; Randy Thomas, Washington, 4; Larry Allen, Dallas, 2; Mike Wahle, Carolina, 2; Kynan Forney, Atlanta, 1; Eric Steinbach, Cincinnati, 1; Chris Snee, NY Giants, 1.

Center

Jeff Saturday, Indianapolis, 28; Olin Kreutz, Chicago, 10; Tom Nalen, Denver, 6; Jeff Hartings, Pittsburgh, 5; Shaun O'Hara, NY Giants, 1.

Placekicker

Neil Rackers, Arizona, 46; Shayne Graham, Cincinnati, 2; Mike Vanderjagt, Indianapolis, 1; David Akers, Philadelphia, 1.

Kick Returner

Jerome Mathis, Houston, 23, Terrence McGee, Buffalo, 19; Koren Robinson, Minnesota, 5; Dante Hall, Kansas City, 1; Adam Jones, Tennessee, 1; Eddie Drummond, Detroit, 1.


DEFENSE

Ends

Dwight Freeney, Indianapolis, 35; Osi Umenyiora, NY Giants, 20; Michael Strahan, NY Giants, 17; Derrick Burgess, Oakland, 9; Julius Peppers, Carolina, 8; Robert Mathis, Indianapolis, 3; Jason Taylor, Miami, 3; Kyle Vanden Bosch, Tennessee, 2; Adewale Ogunleye, Chicago, 1; Alex Brown, Chicago, 1; Richard Seymour, New England, 1.

Tackles

Richard Seymour, New England, 19; Jamal Williams, San Diego, 19; Tommie Harris, Chicago, 15; Rod Coleman, Atlanta, 14; Marcus Stroud, Jacksonville, 11; Shaun Rogers, Detroit, 8; John Henderson, Jacksonville, 3; Pat Williams, Minnesota, 3; Casey Hampton, Pittsburgh, 2; Cornelius Griffin, Washington, 2; La'Roi Glover, Dallas, 1; Ted Washington, Oakland, 1; Ian Scott, Chicago, 1; Rocky Bernard, Seattle, 1.

Outside Linebackers

Lance Briggs, Chicago, 28; Derrick Brooks, Tampa Bay, 23; Cato June, Indianapolis, 20; Joey Porter, Pittsburgh 10; Shawne Merriman, San Diego, 9; Keith Brooking, Atlanta, 2; Marcus Washington, Washington, 2; Keith Bulluck, Tennessee, 1; DaMarcus Ware, Dallas, 1; Clark Haggans, Pittsburgh, 1; Adalius Thomas, Baltimore, 1; Rosevelt Colvin, New England, 1; Ian Gold, Denver, 1.

y-Inside Linebacker

Brian Urlacher, Chicago, 49; Al Wilson, Denver, 23; Zach Thomas, Miami, 8; Mike Peterson, Jacksonville, 4; Antonio Pierce, NY Giants, 3; Lofa Tatupu, Seattle, 3; Larry Foote, Pittsburgh, 2; Donnie Edwards, San Diego, 2; Mike Vrabel, New England, 1; Keith Brooking, Atlanta, 1; Odell Thurman, Cincinnati, 1; Jeremiah Trotter, Philadelphia, 1; James Farrior, Pittsburgh, 1;

Cornerbacks

Champ Bailey, Denver, 29; Ronde Barber, Tampa Bay, 23; Nathan Vasher, Chicago, 21; Deltha O'Neal, Cincinnati, 13; DeAngelo Hall, Atlanta, 7; Ty Law, NY Jets, 3; Ken Lucas, Carolina, 2; Charles Tillman, Chicago, 1; Brian Kelly, Tampa Bay, 1.

Safeties

Troy Polamalu, Pittsburgh, 37; Bob Sanders, Indianapolis, 22; Darren Sharper, Minnesota, 11; Mike Brown, Chicago, 10; John Lynch, Denver, 7; Adrian Wilson, Arizona, 4; Sean Taylor, Washington, 4; Roy Williams, Dallas, 2; Ed Reed, Baltimore, 1; Brian Dawkins, Philadelphia, 1; Nathan Vasher, Chicago, 1.

Punter

Brian Moorman, Buffalo, 31; Josh Bidwell, Tampa Bay, 6; Shane Lechler, Oakland, 5; Josh Miller, New England, 2; Mike Scifres, San Diego, 1; Todd Sauerbrun, Denver, 1; Jeff Feagles, NY Giants, 1; Donnie Jones, Dolphins, 1; Nick Harris, Detroit, 1; Jason Baker, Carolina, 1.
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they take two ILBs. I don't have a problem with Urlacher, but did Al Wilson have a better year than Zach?
 
Coach said:
he didnt get snubbed he said he wasnt gonna play so he could recover from the injury he suffered in the regular season
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All-Pro team is like the All-American team in college.
 
Why is Zach not starting in the probowl?

Zach will backup Al Wilson in the probowl. Zach was 3rd in tackles with over 100, Wilson only had 60 somethin tackles. wuts up with that?
 
I had heard Zach was not going to play...maybe that had something to do with it?
 
Fans only make up about 1/3 of the voting or so I've heard. Coaches and players make up the rest and I assume the press.
 
Notice all the starters (not special teams) are on play-off teams. Coincidence?

except Jamaal Williams.
 
This is the AP ALL-PRO TEAM... not the Pro Bowl roster.

Not that either is so legit, but just to be clear.

NOTE: For the NFL's only legit all-pro team, check the one each year by SI.com's Dr. Z.
 
I have some real issues with this years All Pro teams. As far as I'm concerned they mean more then the Pro Bowl teams because it is voted on my media guys who see a lot of games. It usually leads to less "voted in because of their reputation" crap. That being said...

OFFENSE:

Q.B. - Peyton Manning. I disagree with it...totally. Not that Maning did'nt have a great year but, Tom Brady and Carson Palmer had BETTER years and meant more to their respective teams then Manning did.
My pick: Tom Brady.

R.B. - Shaun Alexander and Tiki Barber. I have no gripes about this at all.
My picks: Tiki and Alexander

F.B. - Mack Strong. Led the way for the NFL rushing/T.D. champion. No issue from my point of view.
My pick: Strong

W.R. - Steve Smith and Chad Johnson. I have no problem with Smith. He was stellar all year, basically by himself. Johnson had a good year but he disappeared for long stretches. I think his mouth got him votes. I think Santana Moss had a better year.
My Picks: Smith and Santana Moss

T.E. - Antonio Gates. No brainer. No one is even close to the guy.
My pick: Gates

Tackles - Walter Jones and Willie Anderson. I have no problem with Jones, he is the best in the game. Anderson was good when I watched but I think William Roaf was better.
My Picks: Jones and William Roaf

Guards - Steve Hutchinson and Alan Faneca. I saw a dozen Seahawk games this year and Hutchinson was easily the best guard I saw all year. I saw Faneca get slapped around a little this year. Eric Steinbach always impressed the hell out of me when I saw the Bengals.
My picks: Hutchinson and Eric Steinbach

Center - Jeff Saturday. I don't have a big problem with that pick. The Colts O-line is so underrated, someone from it deserves a nod.
My pick: Saturday

Kicker - Neil Rackers. He had such great numbers you could'nt leave him off the All Pro team.
My pick: Rackers

Kick returner - Jerome Mathis. I never watched the Texans this year so I never saw him. I'll say that Terrence McGee from the Bills ALWAYS scares me when he has the ball in his hands. He would have gotten my vote.
My picks: Terrence McGee

DEFENSE

Defensive Ends - Dwight Freeney and Osi Umenyiora. Freeney got in because of reputation and nothing more. Overrated with a capital "O".
My picks: Mike Strahan and Jason Taylor

Defensive tackles - Richard Seymour and Jamal Williams. Seymour really came on when he got healthy but he was'nt healthy for the whole year and he is not a true tackle. Williams was ok the half dozen times I saw the Chargers but nothing special.
My picks: Tommie Harris and Pat Williams

Outside linebackers - Lance Briggs and Derrick Brooks. Briggs was everywhere whenever I watched the Bears. Brooks did not impress me the few times I saw the Bucs this year. all that being said, Shawne Merriman is the best rookie linebacker I've seen in a long time. The guy makes plays ad Marcus Washington always made a play when I saw the 'Skins.
My picks: Shawne Merriman and Marcus Washington

Middle Linebacker - Brian Urlacher. He won defensive player of the year...and I disagree with that selection and I disagree with him being the All Pro middle linebacker. Zach gets the nod from me...and I'm not even being a homer.
My pick: Zach Thomas

Cornerbacks - Champ Bailey and Ronde Barber. No arguements from me. Although Nathan Vasher made a LOT of big plays this year and Ken Lucas always impressed me when I saw the Panthers.
My picks: Bailey and Barber

Safeties - Troy Polamalu and Bob Sanders. Again, no arguments from me. I watched the Colts at least 5 times this year and Sanders was ALWAYS in on the play. The guy can bring the lumber.
My picks: Polamalu and Sanders

Punters - Brian Moorman. The guy is the best there is...he kills the ball and gets great hangtime. He also punts in a wind tunnel and bad weather.
My pick: Moorman

Wow...that took a little while. I'm gonna make a thrad in the General NFL forum so this does'nt get lost.:tongue:
 
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