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Merling, Langford will stop run, but who is getting to the QB?

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I really like the picks of Merling and Langford. Merling is not a prototypical, 3-4 end, but has the versalitility to be a good player. It was an easy pick, as he's top 20 talent that fell into Parcells lap. He'll help against the run, but lacks the speed to get to the QB consistently.

Langford is a huge body that will end up being a great 3-4 end but also lacks the agility and speed to consistently get to the QB.

With Ferguson in the middle, The '08 Phins will be much more capable of stopping the run. However, I would like to know, who will get to the QB in passing situations. Despite not being traded, I'm not going to factor JT into the team, he could still be dealt before opening week. Joey Porter should be more productive season, and I think Crowder really could be huge on the outside, but won't he have to stay inside considering we no longer have Zach? Adoleye is a back up right?

If you factor in that besides Will Allen, we don't have another decent coverage corner, I have a feeling this defense will allow a ton of huge passing plays in '08...

Your thoughts????????
 
I'm not as high on the picks of Merling and Langford to be honest ... I think we overdrafted them.

But in a 34 their job isn't to get after the pass rusher, it is to occupy blockers so that the OLB's can make all the big plays. So to answer your question, Jason Taylor and Joey Porter should both get a lot of sacks and pressures this year. IMHO, I'd rather have at least 1 young player being groomed to be a pass rusher when we're actually good enough to have it matter, and I don't think Quentin Moses is going to be the guy.
 
I think we'll have to wait to see who will play where...and who will play, for the Dolphins.
 
I think we have OLBs who are supposed to get to the QB no... If they can't get there we will picked apart...

JT, Porter, and this Abraham late draft project 2007...
 
Digital said:
I'm not as high on the picks of Merling and Langford to be honest ... I think we overdrafted them.

But in a 34 their job isn't to get after the pass rusher, it is to occupy blockers so that the OLB's can make all the big plays. So to answer your question, Jason Taylor and Joey Porter should both get a lot of sacks and pressures this year. IMHO, I'd rather have at least 1 young player being groomed to be a pass rusher when we're actually good enough to have it matter, and I don't think Quentin Moses is going to be the guy.
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Overdrafted Merling?! Langford sure, but Merling?

And to answer the original post, yeah its up to Porter and JT to get the sacks. Thats generally how 3-4s work. Usually if your DEs are leading the team in sacks in a 3-4, yor 3-4 isn't working.
 
Porter, Taylor, Wright, and Moses are your main pass rushers on the board right now. Torbor has shown the ability to blitz from the inside as well. I do see your point. Wright and Moses are still unproven.

I'm actually more worried about the fact that we have no depth at the ILB positions.
 
keep on mind that stoping the run is the first step on getting to the QB....when you force the other team to trow then you have a better chance to get sacks...Porter should be a lot better this year....if JT does play for us then he should do ok too....I like Mosses on the outside and Abe Wright could contribute too....we can't get everything in 1 offseason so maybe we'll get a top OLB next year but we should have a much better defence this season no matter how you look at it.

Ozzy rules!!
 
CitizenSnips said:
Overdrafted Merling?! Langford sure, but Merling?

And to answer the original post, yeah its up to Porter and JT to get the sacks. Thats generally how 3-4s work. Usually if your DEs are leading the team in sacks in a 3-4, yor 3-4 isn't working.
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Agreed, Merling was slated to be a mid first rounder.
 
Pittsburgh wanted Langford with their next pick, so he was not over drafted.

Merling was a top 15-20 prospect, so he was a steal.

Henne was a top 20-35 prospect, so he was value as well.
 
How can you overdraft a mid 1st round pick?

Merling will end up as a WOLB in the 3-4. Langford has Ty Warren type capability and again could have gone late 2nd.
 
Boomer said:
How can you overdraft a mid 1st round pick?

Merling will end up as a WOLB in the 3-4. Langford has Ty Warren type capability and again could have gone late 2nd.
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As I said Pitt wanted Langford with their next pick.

Thanks again for the GURU chat Boom, it was awesome.
 
BlueFin said:
As I said Pitt wanted Langford with their next pick.

Thanks again for the GURU chat Boom, it was awesome.
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They did indeed. Just as Cincy wanted Shawn Murphy.

My pleasure Matt. Only hope you enjoyed it.
 
How much information do you people know about the 3-4 defense? Ends in a 3-4 are not designed to get tons of sacks. There job is to take up blockers first, then get to the quarterback. If both Merling and Langford get 5 to 6 sacks. Thats doing a great job in a 3-4.

OLB such as Porter and Taylor will get the lions share of sacks, name a Steeler defensive end who got tons of sacks in the last 10-15 years?
 
Boomer said:
They did indeed. Just as Cincy wanted Shawn Murphy.
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I have always wondered, how on draft day (or leading up to it) how do teams know or suspect guys in the later rounds and who is being targeted by other teams for these move up type trades?

Spies?
 
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