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Ask any NFL team with a legit #1 WR if theyd trade for 2 #3's for him....see how many come back and say yes.
Miami actually came out even with Marshall
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Yeah, I don't disagree with you. What I find interesting about this thread is the strangely flawed logic it's built on. As if trading down didn't cost us a tremendous amount of value and that we somehow only traded Brandon for one 2nd round pick. Whether or not Ireland should have traded down and passed on who he did is a separate issue.
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unfortunately i see this weird logic on here too much, we need to 'smarten' up and start demanding that our team do better i mean its been what 12 years since we won a damn playoff game? this was once the team with the highest win % in professional sports and we are becoming the laughing stock of the league. according to the front office we did not like marshall and wanted to move on and it seems alot of other FO felt the same as the Bears and their 3rds were the only offer out there. in case you havent noticed WR who have a bad name or stigma attached dont garner much in the market (ie marshal both times, TO, Moss etc). Yes it sucks we have no WR and i would have loved to get more then 2 3rds but on this one im gonna have to give the team the benefit of the doubt. i think philbin is getting a chance to make the team what he wants it to be. im not saying i agree with everything that we are doing or not doing but i think we need to become more realistic as dolphin fans as a whole and start making this team great again
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The fact is they traded him before it would be a problem in their minds. In light of situations such as Randy Moss in Oakland (who got traded in the prime of his career for a 4th round pick), the new coaching staff (lest we forget this as some seem to not see this is a whole new regime with their own set of values) and Ireland probably didn't want it to get to the situation where teams know we want to shop him and 2 3rd round picks would be a pipe dream.
More BIG Time plays. In no way do I think Hartline is better then Marshall. I know we took a big hit losing Marshall, but at the same time he is replaceable.
In the two years, I can remember more big catches from Hartline than Marshall. Hartline is the best sideline catcher in the NFL. He isnt a number 1 but he is a helluva 4th rounder.
He had a very similiar college career. Was never the Buckeyes best but always made the big play.
Addition by subtraction -
Fault the FO for trying too hard to bring in that top 5 WR - expedience and trying to hrry the process will rarely prove itself over "drafting well" - now we are even further behind without those two 2nds and we blew a number of early picks in recent years - Pat White pick was atrocious
Perhaps P White will play second string to Tebow in NY - same skill set
Fault the FO for trying too hard to bring in that top 5 WR - expedience and trying to hrry the process will rarely prove itself over "drafting well" - now we are even further behind without those two 2nds and we blew a number of early picks in recent years - Pat White pick was atrocious
Perhaps P White will play second string to Tebow in NY - same skill set
Randy Moss - Oakland to to NE in prime for a 4th
Good lord. 
Myles Fynch
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Exactly. That pair of 3's salvaged something from what could have been a total disaster. Like bringing many of your valuables upstairs from the ground floor of your house before the floodwater hits. Acquiring Marshall was a panic move we could have passed on if our drafts, especially the high picks, hadn't sucked for so long. (Patrick Turner, Pat White.) We needed firepower and he was a known risk. It ended like a lot of people here thought it would.
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How Oakland do after? How did the Pats? Oh wait...they failed for losing the SB right?
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Trading BM when we did was a panic move...which is why we were robbed.
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Just because you "remember" more plays from Hartline doesn't make it fact.
I'm sure Hartline will have so many more big plays this year without BM's double teams.
Myles Fynch
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Sure it was--because the next story about BM was about to break. Robbed in terms of talent/potential, not in terms of the overall picture where you consider everything. Nobody was desperate to be the next Miami Dolphins or Denver Broncos and have to put up with his ****. We got more than we had a right to expect, given the circumstances. Only Cutler and BM wanting to work together again saved us from getting nothing at all.
Ireland owes that guy a beer. Hopefully, we get something out of those picks or it gets even worse.
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Which 3rd round pick will replace Marshalls guaranteed mid 83 receptions average
while he was here
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No...in terms of overall picture too. Did Pitt trade Big Ben after his last little incident? No...and if they were to get rid of him...the absolute worst time would have been when the story broke.
After all these FA WRs that were clearly not in BMs league went for ridiculous amounts, we could have gotten a lot more...especially come draft time.
Getting rid of BM was bad....not getting good value was terrible...not replacing him with anything is retarded, and if you don't think so, t won't take long to realize it when the season starts.
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