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during that stretch we made 3 playoff apps and made 2 title games and were one of the better teams in the AFC and it is success you guys would kill for. We only had 2 losing seasons in his time here one being his final season and one his 2nd season when we had Kellen Clemens as our primary starter. I discuss the man realistically, he's certainly not great but it is comical how fans of a team that have played one playoff game since 2002 and won one playoff game since 2000 can bash a guy and pretend he is the worst in the league that built 2 legitimate SB contenders.



he brought in the players, he gave Mangini a good roster to win in 2008 and Mangini failed, Rex took over and it worked for a few years. You have to give the man some credit.

why should the team we root for have anything to do with our opinion on a gm? we can "bash" him because we are football fans and watch the league just as much as you do....if we applied our team's standards and lack of success to every opinion we had, that would be applying a bias, which is ironic when you claim to discuss him "realistically"...because in "reality" the general NFL think-tank leans more towards our opinions of him, than yours.

so maybe, it is your biased perspective that is causing you to defend him so vigorously?
 
I am always told that rex sucks though so I need to ask one question:

If we had a terrible GM, terrible HC, terrible QB how did we almost make 2 SBs?

You were told wrong, Rex is a great defensive coach, but he needs veteran players. Those playoff runs were because of the defense. But when the team talent started deteriorating and players got younger and shakier, the team slipped into an abyss deep enough to not only get Tannenbaum fired but his successor as well. That was all T-bum.
 
why should the team we root for have anything to do with our opinion on a gm? we can "bash" him because we are football fans and watch the league just as much as you do....if we applied our team's standards and lack of success to every opinion we had, that would be applying a bias, which is ironic when you claim to discuss him "realistically"...because in "reality" the general NFL think-tank leans more towards our opinions of him, than yours.

so maybe, it is your biased perspective that is causing you to defend him so vigorously?

you can do what you want, I don't care. I hope he is gone after this year b/c I know what he is capable of. you guys want a successful GM fired all you want. The reality is he did some really good things here in NY and I ask again- if the GM sucked, the HC sucked and the QB sucked how did we get so close to multiple Super Bowls? it's a question no one can answer.

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You were told wrong, Rex is a great defensive coach, but he needs veteran players. Those playoff runs were because of the defense. But when the team talent started deteriorating and players got younger and shakier, the team slipped into an abyss deep enough to not only get Tannenbaum fired but his successor as well. That was all T-bum.

we were led by the D though to be fair the D blew numerous reg season games and both title games. we didn't make it solely b/c of the D.

Mike was fired before he could implement his retooling plan so falling into the abyss in 2014 was not on Mike Tannenbaum. we never would have been 4-12 in 2014 in Tannenbaum stayed on(barring disastrous injuries).
 
I am always told that rex sucks though so I need to ask one question:

If we had a terrible GM, terrible HC, terrible QB how did we almost make 2 SBs?

if they weren't terrible, how come there no longer with the team.
 
you can do what you want, I don't care. I hope he is gone after this year b/c I know what he is capable of. you guys want a successful GM fired all you want. The reality is he did some really good things here in NY and I ask again- if the GM sucked, the HC sucked and the QB sucked how did we get so close to multiple Super Bowls? it's a question no one can answer.

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we were led by the D though to be fair the D blew numerous reg season games and both title games. we didn't make it solely b/c of the D.

Mike was fired before he could implement his retooling plan so falling into the abyss in 2014 was not on Mike Tannenbaum. we never would have been 4-12 in 2014 in Tannenbaum stayed on(barring disastrous injuries).

i can ask you the same frikkin question , if your qb, hc, and gm were getting you the success your team desired why did they all get fired and end up elsewhere?

my answer for yours is very simply elite defense, which was rex ryan's strong suit as we've hammered repeatedly. what's your answer?

and great, glad you don't care and find it so comical that these silly dolphin fans (along with the majority of nfl fans and analysts) think that tannenbaum stinks.
 
if they weren't terrible, how come there no longer with the team.

Tom Coughlin got fired twice, is he terrible? Bill Belichick was fired once, is he terrible? successful people can get fired.

I ask again though, how were we so successful w/ those guys(even add in the OC who every Jet fan bashed)?

i can ask you the same frikkin question , if your qb, hc, and gm were getting you the success your team desired why did they all get fired and end up elsewhere?


my answer for yours is very simply elite defense, which was rex ryan's strong suit as we've hammered repeatedly. what's your answer?


and great, glad you don't care and find it so comical that these silly dolphin fans (along with the majority of nfl fans and analysts) think that tannenbaum stinks.

so no one that has ever had success has ever been fired?

oh it was the elite defense, who traded up to draft our best player? I will give Rex credit for Leonhard and Scott but who brought in the rest of the guys?

I don't worry about what others think, the "experts" and fans have a mob mentality, they sway in the wind. if Miami has success this year everyone will change their tune. it's how the media and fans work. it's not how I work, I don't forget those that helped my team. you think Tom Coughlin sucks b/c he missed 6 of 7 postseasons and was just fired? go check the reputation of Bill Belichick as a HC before Brady stepped on the field.
 
Tom Coughlin got fired twice, is he terrible? Bill Belichick was fired once, is he terrible? successful people can get fired.

I ask again though, how were we so successful w/ those guys(even add in the OC who every Jet fan bashed)?

bill was not successful when he got fired.

so no one that has ever had success has ever been fired?

oh it was the elite defense, who traded up to draft our best player? I will give Rex credit for Leonhard and Scott but who brought in the rest of the guys?

I don't worry about what others think, the "experts" and fans have a mob mentality, they sway in the wind. if Miami has success this year everyone will change their tune. it's how the media and fans work. it's not how I work, I don't forget those that helped my team. you think Tom Coughlin sucks b/c he missed 6 of 7 postseasons and was just fired? go check the reputation of Bill Belichick as a HC before Brady stepped on the field.
I don't think anybody's going to change there opinion of him.
Bill- Cleveland he compiled a 36–44 record and In Belichick's last season in Cleveland the Browns finished 5–11
Bill's success comes on the heels of brady, not the other way around.
New York Giants (1979–1990)[edit]

In 1979, Belichick began a 12-year stint with the New York Giants alongside head coach Ray Perkins as a defensive assistant and special teams coach. He added linebackers coaching to his duties in 1980 and was named defensive coordinator in 1985 under head coach Bill Parcells, who had replaced Perkins in 1983. The Giants won Super Bowls following the 1986 and 1990 seasons. His defensive game plan from the New York Giants' 20–19 upset of the Buffalo Bills in Super Bowl XXV is now in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.[12]

Cleveland Browns (1991–1995)[edit]

From 1991 until 1995, Belichick was the head coach of the Cleveland Browns. During his tenure in Cleveland he compiled a 36–44 record, leading the team to the playoffs in 1994, his only winning year with the team. Coincidentally, his one playoff victory during his Browns tenure was achieved against the Patriots in the wild card round during this postseason. In Belichick's last season in Cleveland the Browns finished 5–11, despite starting 3-1. In November of that year in the middle of the ongoing football season, Browns owner Art Modell had announced he would move his franchise to Baltimore after the season. After first being given assurances that he would coach the transplanted Baltimore Ravens, Belichick was instead fired on February 14, 1996, one week after the shift was officially announced.[13]

New England Patriots (1996)[edit]

After his dismissal by the new Baltimore Ravens, Belichick served under Parcells again as assistant head coach and defensive backs coach with the Patriots for the 1996 season. The Patriots finished with an 11–5 record and won the AFC championship, but they lost to the Green Bay Packers in Super Bowl XXXI amid rumors of Parcells' impending defection.

New York Jets (1997–1999)[edit]

Belichick had two different stints as the head coach of the Jets without ever coaching a game.

In February 1997, Belichick, who had been an assistant coach under Bill Parcells with the New York Giants and New England Patriots, was named the Jets interim head coach while the Jets and Patriots continued to negotiate compensation to release Parcells from his contract with Patriots and allow Parcells to coach the Jets.[14] Six days later, the Patriots and Jets reached an agreement that allowed Parcells to coach the Jets and Belichick became the team's assistant head coach and defensive coordinator.[15] When Parcells stepped down as head coach in 1999, he had already arranged with team management to have Belichick succeed him. However, Belichick would be the New York Jets' head coach for only one day. When Belichick was introduced as head coach to the media—the day after his hiring was publicized—he turned it into a surprise-resignation announcement. Before taking the podium, he scrawled a resignation note on a sheet of loose leaf paper that read, in its entirety, "I resign as HC of the NYJ." He then delivered a half-hour speech explaining his resignation to the assembled press corps.[16]

Soon after this bizarre turn of events, he was introduced as the Patriots' 12th full-time head coach, succeeding the recently fired Pete Carroll. The Patriots had tried to hire him away from Parcells/the Jets in the past. Parcells and the Jets claimed that Belichick was still under contract to the Jets, and demanded compensation from the Patriots. NFL Commissioner Paul Tagliabue agreed, and the Patriots gave the Jets a first-round draft pick in 2000 in exchange for the right to hire Belichick.[17]
 
Sure, successful people get fired sometimes. If Tannenbaum had shown up here with a plan, some kind of idea or concept, anything other than making random moves, mismanaging the cap and squandering draft picks, if he'd actually shown he could do this job well, a lot of us would be behind him. As it stands his past history corroborates his present performance. We can talk all you want but time will tell. Three years from now it will all be crystal clear.
 
Sure, successful people get fired sometimes. If Tannenbaum had shown up here with a plan, some kind of idea or concept, anything other than making random moves, mismanaging the cap and squandering draft picks, if he'd actually shown he could do this job well, a lot of us would be behind him. As it stands his past history corroborates his present performance. We can talk all you want but time will tell. Three years from now it will all be crystal clear.

that damn Tannenbaum! he took a well oiled machine and ruined it! damn him!

his past history is he built Super Bowl contenders(with an s as in multiple). will he do that in Miami? who knows and I don't care. I appreciate what he did here.
 
Can't say I've ever read The Score before. Nor have I ever heard of the kid who wrote the article. Not worth getting too upset about a blog article whose parent company is trading at less than .30 Canadian. Meaning much like the article, it's worth less than a quarter.

theScore is the only sports app I have on my phone. It's as valid as any of the other bull**** that gets sourced from here.
 
that damn Tannenbaum! he took a well oiled machine and ruined it! damn him!

his past history is he built Super Bowl contenders(with an s as in multiple). will he do that in Miami? who knows and I don't care. I appreciate what he did here.

Well, good for you. I don't care. I want him out of here.
 
Like it or not Tannenbaum is the leader in Miami. I was originally not very happy when I heard the news but...

He made some nice moves in NY and also made some bad ones. One thing he has done better than any GM we have had is the drafting of elite players (4 or 5) and fielding a team that gets to the playoffs and wins games. His mistake was that he starting treating the team like a fantasy football squad. He was chasing every big name free agent in the book. He said he has learned from his mistakes. Judging from what has transpired in FA this year, I see no reason to believe he hasn't. Not unlike many FO people, drafting a bad QB derailed most of what he accomplished. Not to mention the draft picks he gave up to do it.

He obviously still likes to deal but we'll have to take a "wait and see" approach before he (or the FO) gets graded. People can "like" or "not like" the moves but it's all speculation at this point. He moved & traded away several picks this year and he will either "get by", completely fail or even look like a genius.

If we come out of this year with a winning record as well as fielding a new starting O-lineman, MLB & (2) CB's all from his draft moves, he will look like a genius. Add in success for Carroo and Drake or Grant and no one will be complaining.

He still has a chance to redeem himself.
 
Like it or not Tannenbaum is the leader in Miami. I was originally not very happy when I heard the news but... He made some nice moves in NY and also made some bad ones. One thing he has done better than any GM we have had is the drafting of elite players (4 or 5) and fielding a team that gets to the playoffs and wins games. His mistake was that he starting treating the team like a fantasy football squad. He was chasing every big name free agent in the book. He said he has learned from his mistakes. Judging from what has transpired in FA this year, I see no reason to believe he hasn't. Not unlike many FO people, drafting a bad QB derailed most of what he accomplished. Not to mention the draft picks he gave up to do it. He obviously still likes to deal but we'll have to take a "wait and see" approach before he (or the FO) gets graded. People can "like" or "not like" the moves but it's all speculation at this point. He moved & traded away several picks this year and he will either "get by", completely fail or even look like a genius. If we come out of this year with a winning record as well as fielding a new starting O-lineman, MLB & (2) CB's all from his draft moves, he will look like a genius. Add in success for Carroo and Drake or Grant and no one will be complaining. He still has a chance to redeem himself.
I don't understand the berating some give 'baum for the Sanchez pick. He was ranked as the 1st/2nd best QB in his draft by about everyone. It isn't as if he moved up for Pat White. And the Jets needed a QB. For the record, I'm not a 'baum fan, but the draft picks were said to have Gase's and VJ's fingerprints all over them. If all these guys bust, it isn't all on 'baum. My biggest complaint to date was signing so many players with injury histories.
 
I don't understand the berating some give 'baum for the Sanchez pick. He was ranked as the 1st/2nd best QB in his draft by about everyone. It isn't as if he moved up for Pat White. And the Jets needed a QB. For the record, I'm not a 'baum fan, but the draft picks were said to have Gase's and VJ's fingerprints all over them. If all these guys bust, it isn't all on 'baum. My biggest complaint to date was signing so many players with injury histories.

Well, I think the ranking could be debated but the fact is there was only one QB worth drafting in 2009. The rest were flops. It definitely was NOT a year to be trading up for a QB. If I remember correctly, Sanchez carried a much lower grade than the 5th overall spot where he was selected. A great example of why not to draft for need. (In the grand scheme of things, he didn't give up much to move that far. Swap of the 17th and the 52nd pick and a bunch of average players.)

In hindsight, he would have been better off to just keep Chad Pennington. He got a one year rental of Brett Favre who had a terrible year and a 9-7 record only to miss the playoffs. Then he selects Sanchez who makes advances to the AFC Championship as a rookie with 12 td's and 20 ints AND the exact same regular season record as 2008.

The Jets then make the playoffs (lose AFC) after going 11-5 with Sanchez throwing for only 17 TD's and 13 int's. They had success despite QB play. The guy was never accurate but benefited from good defense and running game.

The ironic part is that in 2011, Sanchez had his best year with 3500/26/18 and they only won 8 games. Truth is he was never that good. Had around a 55% completion rate over 4 years and just happened to fit in with what the rest of the team was doing well.

I'm not sure what having Gase and VJ's fingerprints on the draft class means exactly but I don't think they weren't recommending specific players. I think they told the GM what "type" of player they want to fit the scheme and then Mike and company goes and identifies them/selects them.
 
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