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Miami Dolphins Should Not Replace Mike Tannenbaum If Fired

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The Miami Dolphins might be moving closer to getting rid of Mike Tannenbaum after the season finale on Sunday. They shouldn’t replace him.

When the Miami Dolphins season comes to a close this weekend, there is speculation that Stephen Ross will move on from VP of Football Mike Tannenbaum. Armando Salguero of the Miami Herald reported that it is very likely Ross fires Tannenbaum but retains both general manager Chris Grier and head coach Adam Gase.

If Tannenbaum is let go which now appears likely, Stephen Ross should just delete that part of his executive staff. In other words, don’t replace Tannenbaum.

https://phinphanatic.com/2018/12/26/miami-dolphins-not-replace-mike-tannenbaum-fired/
 
Personally, I like what Grier has done with our recent drafts. IMHO, he should be our GM, like his title indicates, and working under him should be--OK, brace yourself because this is very controversial--Dawn Aponte to be a contract negotiator.

OK, I realize everyone hates her, but hopefully she learned her lesson about dividing the front office and raising a ruckus. As a contract negotiator, she was very good, and far better than we've seen since she left. Now, the issues is that she wanted and expected that she was the GM, and in that role she kinda stinks. Now, I do not agree with her strategy to seldom re-sign our draft picks, and I very much believe we need to do that before they enter their final year, but in negotiating the actual contracts, she was good. So if she wants in--just for that specific role--I'd ask her back. Then let Grier run the show recruiting and managing talent, with Aponte there as the heavy salary cap person. But … maybe don't hire her this year. Wait until next year where we either know we're keeping Gase, or more likely, we replace Gase and bring in someone new.
 
At this point I really don't care what they do with that position, let the spring cleaning begin......just win baby.
 
Digital said:
Personally, I like what Grier has done with our recent drafts. IMHO, he should be our GM, like his title indicates, and working under him should be--OK, brace yourself because this is very controversial--Dawn Aponte to be a contract negotiator.

OK, I realize everyone hates her, but hopefully she learned her lesson about dividing the front office and raising a ruckus. As a contract negotiator, she was very good, and far better than we've seen since she left. Now, the issues is that she wanted and expected that she was the GM, and in that role she kinda stinks. Now, I do not agree with her strategy to seldom re-sign our draft picks, and I very much believe we need to do that before they enter their final year, but in negotiating the actual contracts, she was good. So if she wants in--just for that specific role--I'd ask her back. Then let Grier run the show recruiting and managing talent, with Aponte there as the heavy salary cap person. But … maybe don't hire her this year. Wait until next year where we either know we're keeping Gase, or more likely, we replace Gase and bring in someone new.
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She isn't coming back ... she got a better job with the NFL.

Seems like an easy hole to fill to me. It is something you go to school for. Doesn't even merit a crazy title or a bunch of fanfare. Just get someone who is qualified and understands the importance of not back loading and/or restructuring contracts.

Did anyone even know who Aponte was before there was speculation of inner turmoil within the organization and her possible role? I sure as hell didn't.
 
No to Aponte. She was good with numbers but was a factor in the division of the franchise. Move forward not back. Plenty of qualified people to do that job.

As for Tannenbaum yes, replace him. Dont want the GM reporting to Ross who has bungled decision after decision. He needs to hire a sharp football mind then stay out of it.
 
BobDole said:
She isn't coming back ... she got a better job with the NFL.

Seems like an easy hole to fill to me. It is something you go to school for. Doesn't even merit a crazy title or a bunch of fanfare. Just get someone who is qualified and understands the importance of not back loading and/or restructuring contracts.

Did anyone even know who Aponte was before there was speculation of inner turmoil within the organization and her possible role? I sure as hell didn't.
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Yeah, she was well known as an exceptional negotiator at the Browns.
 
Digital said:
Personally, I like what Grier has done with our recent drafts. IMHO, he should be our GM, like his title indicates, and working under him should be--OK, brace yourself because this is very controversial--Dawn Aponte to be a contract negotiator.

OK, I realize everyone hates her, but hopefully she learned her lesson about dividing the front office and raising a ruckus. As a contract negotiator, she was very good, and far better than we've seen since she left. Now, the issues is that she wanted and expected that she was the GM, and in that role she kinda stinks. Now, I do not agree with her strategy to seldom re-sign our draft picks, and I very much believe we need to do that before they enter their final year, but in negotiating the actual contracts, she was good. So if she wants in--just for that specific role--I'd ask her back. Then let Grier run the show recruiting and managing talent, with Aponte there as the heavy salary cap person. But … maybe don't hire her this year. Wait until next year where we either know we're keeping Gase, or more likely, we replace Gase and bring in someone new.
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It's hard to read between the lines sometimes, but I have a feeling Ross will be looking at John Harbaugh after next season. Lots of variable there, including how good Gase performs as head coach in 2019 if he's retained.
 
Tannenbaum was a poor hire and never made sense. Aponte may be fine negotiating contracts but that’s about the easiest thing the franchise can find.

No, what this organization needs is a true football mind who can give you an edge in his thought process in all aspects. A critical component is tenacity and a true hatred of losing. It’s a combination of smarts and an obsession with winning that sets apart the true winners. Whether it’s Coach Shula or Bobby Knight or Vince Lombardi or Nick Saban, they are all smart but have an uncompromising will to win.

Miami’s leadership has been the opposite of this. You have had guys who are just happy to be there. Guys like Tannenbaum get in the flow, they get the right contacts, and end up making millions. They want to maintain the status quo and not be found out as frauds.

Ross may be well intentioned but he’s a businessman. Sure, he’d like to win, but he’s not going to put them at a priority level where winning is the only focus. It becomes a self fulfilling propecy because you won’t win in the end. He’s just not going to have that commitment. He may throw unlimited money at it, but that’s not the issue. The crux of the problem is not having the know how or trade secrets you need to function to win.

The best hope is that he gets lucky and finds a football savant even by accident. Hiring a guy like Tannenbaum was telling, though. You know what he is, and it’s not good.

Dawn Aponte from what we’ve heard was part of rifts and alliances and used political levers to maintain her high paying salary and stature. Those qualities are deal breakers.

Get a guy who has an edge in all aspects because he wants to win so intensely that he will do what he needs to do. Every little delta you can pick up over the opponent can create synergies in the end, and you end up with a winning philosophy.

Ross would be best served by meeting with true winners. What makes them tick? Capture that because that’s what’s missing here.
 
BobDole said:
She isn't coming back ... she got a better job with the NFL.

Seems like an easy hole to fill to me. It is something you go to school for. Doesn't even merit a crazy title or a bunch of fanfare. Just get someone who is qualified and understands the importance of not back loading and/or restructuring contracts.

Did anyone even know who Aponte was before there was speculation of inner turmoil within the organization and her possible role? I sure as hell didn't.
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Do you remember this board blaming her for everything back in the Philbin days? It was an interesting time to be on Finheaven.
 
Dawn Aponte?!? in what universe has she been involved with player personnel or roster construction? what years has she been seen at bowl games? the combine? the draft?!! stop the madness please
 
I agree. He should not be replaced and let Grier run it. He has done pretty well lately.
 
I base this statement solely on the possibility Gase is kept (and not my personal desires)....

If we keep Gase, I would like to see Grier get the opportunity to run his own show. I know some of you know what is has been like in the past decades to rely on veterans in name and talent to bring hope to this franchise.

I think most of us agree that the core strengths of this roster is based on its youth and the talent we have drafted. We have holes yes, but Grier has done a better than average job of drafting compared to the rest of the league in his short time. Obviously, we would need more time to assess the long term success of his classes, but I think we can agree his has infused more talent on our roster than any previous GM we have had in a long time.

Among all of the carnage of Gase, TB, Burke and all the other distractions, Grier has managed to draft some strong classes and find some undrafted gems along the way. He has also had an eye for finding talent off of the scrap heap to plug and play and keep us competitive, regardless of the coaching debacles.

While many would single out Ryan as a talent gap compared to the rest of the league, RT is not a Grier pick. If we look solely at whom Grier has picked I think he has proven to be a rare front office find for us.

I simply hate the circumstances of his tenure as he will most likely not survive a regime change. But I believe if you focus solely on the talent he has picked (and not how they have been coached or schemed).... it is hard to argue with his results. Not too mention, we don't know how many of our draft picks were directly picked by Gase or TB during the same time.

Grier should not be lumped into the group when assessing this regime. I think he deserves some appreciation for what he has done.

If you want to see how success can hide some truths, go look at BB's drafts. Below average at best.
 
LANGER72 said:
I dont understand this.
Gase and Burke should be fired first, and them fire Tbomb by a nasty text.
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Lol! Have a meeting and when TBum walks in say “what, you didn’t get the memo, you are done here”
 
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