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Miami has the hardest SOS in the AFC East, 18th Overall

nyjunc said:
Making a Championship Game is a "decent" year?

I am using this 3 year window b/c it is the 3 years we have had rex as our HC and sanchez as our QB- should I use the '96 Jets as a reference point? The core of this team has won as many playoff games as any team in the league the last 3 years, they have winning experience. Nothing is ever guaranteed in this league but w/ the talent on the team, the coahcing and the winning experience it would be foolish to dismiss them.
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I guess I should use 1994-1996 as the 3 year period but I don't think Boomer, Adrian Murrell, Rob Moore, Mo Lewis, Marvin Jones,... can help us this year.
 
The Omen said:
The reason NE plays the weaker teams is because we are the weaker teams (Fins, Bills, Jets) twice a year.
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While your logic is sound, and I'd normally agree with you....
I'm not saying that the Jets or Bills are dominant teams by any means, but they both made acquisitions that make them much improved teams.

Mario Williams is the icing on the cake that was already solid Defensive Line with Kyle Williams, Marcel Darius and Mark Anderson. They will reek some havoc.

The Jets didn't get any worse IMO (even though most people will say that by adding Sporano and Tebow they drastically made themselves worse)

I'd say we were the team from the AFC East that is least improved overall going into this year.

I also think Sanchump and Ryan 'the beard' Fitzpatrick are both bums, but at least those teams have had some form of stability at the QB position for a couple years.

But most of all is the absurdity of giving the Super Bowl champs the toughest schedule this coming season while giving the Patriots the easiest schedule.
As if it's easy for teams to repeat now-a-days... (last repeat were the Pats in '04 & '05) See last years Packers.
Not to mention the Pats don't need any more help than they already receive from Goodell, the Refs, and the Media. They get to face the worst of the worst from last season, just to ensure that they get back to the promise land once again.
 
Specialk0832 said:
While your logic is sound, and I'd normally agree with you....
I'm not saying that the Jets or Bills are dominant teams by any means, but they both made acquisitions that make them much improved teams.

Mario Williams is the icing on the cake that was already solid Defensive Line with Kyle Williams, Marcel Darius and Mark Anderson. They will reek some havoc.

The Jets didn't get any worse IMO (even though most people will say that by adding Sporano and Tebow they drastically made themselves worse)

I'd say we were the team from the AFC East that is least improved overall going into this year.

I also think Sanchump and Ryan 'the beard' Fitzpatrick are both bums, but at least those teams have had some form of stability at the QB position for a couple years.

But most of all is the absurdity of giving the Super Bowl champs the toughest schedule this coming season while giving the Patriots the easiest schedule.
As if it's easy for teams to repeat now-a-days... (last repeat were the Pats in '04 & '05) See last years Packers.
Not to mention the Pats don't need any more help than they already receive from Goodell, the Refs, and the Media. They get to face the worst of the worst from last season, just to ensure that they get back to the promise land once again.
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The NFL has a scheduling formula. They didn't give NE an easy sched, that's the way it shakes out(for now, things change quickly).

all but 2 opponents are known years in advance. For example next year the Jets will play:

Buf 2x
Mia 2x
NE 2x
Atl
Car
TB
NO
Pitt
Bal
Cin
Cle

the last 2 games are determined by where we finish. if we finish in 2nd we play the 2nd place teams from the AFC South and AFC west.

This year the difference in the scheds for the AFC East teams:

Buf plays KC, Cle
Mia plays Oak, Cin
NE plays Den, Bal
NYJ plays Pitt, SD
 
nyjunc said:
Making a Championship Game is a "decent" year?

I am using this 3 year window b/c it is the 3 years we have had rex as our HC and sanchez as our QB- should I use the '96 Jets as a reference point? The core of this team has won as many playoff games as any team in the league the last 3 years, they have winning experience. Nothing is ever guaranteed in this league but w/ the talent on the team, the coahcing and the winning experience it would be foolish to dismiss them.
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If you're going to be butthurt about the adjective I used to describe the season the Jets had, that's on you. To me it was decent. You have a great year, a decent year, an average year, or a ****ty year.

Please continue to make statements about using the '96 Jets or asking if the seasons in the '70s are as relevant to today. I won't respond to those distractions. I'm not dismissing the Jets unlike most of the people here. You and I have personally had a ton of good debate about our teams. The problem is that so many people here hate the Jets and some tend to make statements that are too homerish which ultimately deserve your wrath.

If anything a fluky year would be one in which a team won the championship IMO, not one where a team had an average year after two decent B2B ones.
 
PhinzN703 said:
If you're going to be butthurt about the adjective I used to describe the season the Jets had, that's on you. To me it was decent. You have a great year, a decent year, an average year, or a ****ty year.

Please continue to make statements about using the '96 Jets or asking if the seasons in the '70s are as relevant to today. I won't respond to those distractions. I'm not dismissing the Jets unlike most of the people here. You and I have personally had a ton of good debate about our teams. The problem is that so many people here hate the Jets and some tend to make statements that are too homerish which ultimately deserve your wrath.

If anything a fluky year would be one in which a team won the championship IMO, not one where a team had an average year after two decent B2B ones.
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so Miami hasn't had a decent year since 1992? that sucks.

I will continue to make such silly comments when I get asinine comments concerning the recent years which have relevance. You can ignore them all you want but most of this roster has been in 2 title games and has winning experience.

1 title game run could have been a fluke but that was backed up w a 2nd consecutve one proving it was't a fluke, they then have one "down" year at 8-8 where they played poorly late to blow the season. To me the '11 season is the fluke unless they wind up having a similar season this year. I am giving this team the benefit of the doubt b/c they have earned it under rex. if they suck I'll say so but I feel good going into 2012.
 
SabanHater said:
take away a Brandon Marshall and we become worse. Add a Tony Sparano and you become the most boring predictable team in the league.
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The Jets won't be boring this year. They will be the most talked about team on ESPN and the NFL Network...just wait. Rex Ryan just created the biggest QB controversey in the history of the NFL, and he did this to a team whose locker room is already in complete disarray. Mark Sanchez is already on a short leash, and as soon as he throws that first interception (which will happen in the first game guaranteed), fans will start booing because they want Tebow in. Then when Tebow comes in, his teammates, fans and media will quickly grow tired of his low completion percentage. This will create more dissention in the lockeroom. You have two YOUNG QBs, who are not good QBs, one is a turnover machine while the other has an ugly completion percentage; they both need time to develop, and having them split time will only further stunt their development.

The Jets are set up to IMPLODE big time. When you have Rex Ryanisms to the media, Tony Sparano as your O-coordinator, the Tebow-Sanchez QB controversy, Santonio Holmes crying for the ball, the chaotic lockeroom, and the impatient NY fans and media. The fireworks are going to fly this season. :brewskis:
 
1 legitimate good year (but not good enough to carry its own division) sandwiched in between a recent mediocre season and a past one where the team lost 6 out of 7 games, came up short vs Atlanta at home when they legitimately might have stayed in the playoff hunt, were gifted 2 free games when they were 7-7 where they well could have ended up 7-9, and then beat the worst team, by the time they got there in the playoffs in the last 10 years, and then a team with a notoriously under-performing HC whose accurate kicker missed 3 relatively makeable if not easy FGs while their own QB typically crapped the bed going 12-23, 101 yds, 1TD/1Int.

I'd call that one good year, 1 lucky to be mediocre year, and one "stepped in **** they didn't deserve" year. And that's the reality!
 
nyjunc said:
so Miami hasn't had a decent year since 1992? that sucks.

I will continue to make such silly comments when I get asinine comments concerning the recent years which have relevance. You can ignore them all you want but most of this roster has been in 2 title games and has winning experience.

1 title game run could have been a fluke but that was backed up w a 2nd consecutve one proving it was't a fluke, they then have one "down" year at 8-8 where they played poorly late to blow the season. To me the '11 season is the fluke unless they wind up having a similar season this year. I am giving this team the benefit of the doubt b/c they have earned it under rex. if they suck I'll say so but I feel good going into 2012.
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No they haven't had a decent year. They haven't done a single thing since I've been a conscience fan TBH.

I didn't say the Jets B2B runs were flukes. What I meant was it's more common for any team to have one season in which they win it all then proceed to eat ass the next year.
 
PhinzN703 said:
No they haven't had a decent year. They haven't done a single thing since I've been a conscience fan TBH.

I didn't say the Jets B2B runs were flukes. What I meant was it's more common for any team to have one season in which they win it all then proceed to eat ass the next year.
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I disagree, any time you get to the playoffs it is a good year(unless you were the huge favorite to win the SB and lost early in the playoffs), I think our title game apps were very good years.
 
nyjunc said:
I disagree, any time you get to the playoffs it is a good year(unless you were the huge favorite to win the SB and lost early in the playoffs), I think our title game apps were very good years.
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I never could've guessed you'd think that
 
You were around for the late 90s/early 00s playoff teams. Those were good years for you guys.
 
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