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Michael Deiter? Connor Williams? Dolphins face critical OL decision at center

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Now heres a highly questionable situation completely unnecessary IMO..

Article states "up for grabs .. WHY

Conner Williams possibly playing center ... WHY

Applebaum not envisioning the decision taking well into Aug. ( especially for a super hero OL coach ... I hope )

App, see's negative plays ( god I hope so ) and he also see's positive. Says just wants to focus on positive...

I think Michael Deiter is giving us everything we’re asking right now, Ya fits well in shorts and is passable with no contact from someone on the other side.

This goes for RT too (protecting Tua's blind side)
Hate to see another season of musical linemen
Fingers crossed they address these position or atleast one before there are no good options out there to get. Which we've all seen in amazement for decades or atleast most of us...... JMfigginO
 
these are all new coaches, you cant blame them for wanting to see guys in different positions so they can then judge who's right for what..Got to give them their fair time to evaluate the roster.
 
cuzinvinny said:
Now heres a highly questionable situation completely unnecessary IMO..

Article states "up for grabs .. WHY

Conner Williams possibly playing center ... WHY

Applebaum not envisioning the decision taking well into Aug. ( especially for a super hero OL coach ... I hope )

App, see's negative plays ( god I hope so ) and he also see's positive. Says just wants to focus on positive...

I think Michael Deiter is giving us everything we’re asking right now, Ya fits well in shorts and is passable with no contact from someone on the other side.

This goes for RT too (protecting Tua's blind side)
Hate to see another season of musical linemen
Fingers crossed they address these position or atleast one before there are no good options out there to get. Which we've all seen in amazement for decades or atleast most of us...... JMfigginO
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Agree.
 
Even after adding Williams and Armstead this oline is still very weak.

Now add this into the mix and its potentially a disaster.

Dallas tried Williams at Center last preseason and he was awful.

Deiter was manageable at Center. Leave him there.

The competition we need is at RT, Hunt should be moved there which opens a hole at RG but who cares. Eichenburg and Jackson were awful at Tackle last year.

This just makes no sense, who's gonna play LG if Williams plays center?

Why not just sign Tretter and be done with it?

Our best line should look like this.

LT- Armstead
LG- Willams
C- Tretter
RG- Jackson, Eichenburg or Deiter
RT- Hunt


Instead it currently looks like this

LT- Armstead
LG- ???? Jackson maybe?
Center - Williams or Deiter
RG - Hunt
RT- Jackson or Eichenburg

The rest of this roster is ready to win now. But then you look at this mess and wonder just how many games can we win with a line this weak. This potentially has both Eichenburg and Jackson starting. Why? Deiter was not the problem last year he was one of the only guys who was decent at their position.
 
MrChadRico said:
Even after adding Williams and Armstead this oline is still very weak.

Now add this into the mix and its potentially a disaster.

Dallas tried Williams at Center last preseason and he was awful.

Deiter was manageable at Center. Leave him there.

The competition we need is at RT, Hunt should be moved there which opens a hole at RG but who cares. Eichenburg and Jackson were awful at Tackle last year.

This just makes no sense, who's gonna play LG if Williams plays center?

Why not just sign Tretter and be done with it?

Our best line should look like this.

LT- Armstead
LG- Willams
C- Tretter
RG- Jackson, Eichenburg or Deiter
RT- Hunt


Instead it currently looks like this

LT- Armstead
LG- ???? Jackson maybe?
Center - Williams or Deiter
RG - Hunt
RT- Jackson or Eichenburg

The rest of this roster is ready to win now. But then you look at this mess and wonder just how many games can we win with a line this weak. This potentially has both Eichenburg and Jackson starting. Why? Deiter was not the problem last year he was one of the only guys who was decent at their position.
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it should be

Armstead
Williams
Deiter
Hunt
Eichenberg

until proven otherwise.

eich should be fine at RT. he was never meant to play LT and had a player who failed at LT and was being given a look at LG next to him (AJ).

now he will be in his drafted position with Hunty by his side.
 
djphinfan said:
these are all new coaches, you cant blame them for wanting to see guys in different positions so they can then judge who's right for what..Got to give them their fair time to evaluate the roster.
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I'm not even a coach and its clear as hell to me, especially considering we've got the dough to do it.
Ya add new coaches to the abundant ones that were new and surprisingly failed big time.

WHY EVEN TAKE THE CHANCE ??????? It just doesn't make sense IMO and we can do it easily..

Oh but we have OL coaches who are really superheros ,.... come on

" Eich will be fine " the FH experts so far he looks great in his dolphin shorts. How in the H do you know ?

Or Jackson will be fine ( see Eich)

Could be an area that slows this team down 9 See Mahones SB )
My point is why risk it. We can use the players we got as backups WHEN needed...


Armstead
Williams
Deiter or JC or another quality C (ideal)
Hunt
RT Darl Williams especially if Deiter stays at #1... He also plays G too ( RT and G sounds like a good thing )

Its still time just hope the old pattern of squandering that time isn't done again like most every other.
 
circumstances said:
lord please let deiter impress them at center, so they don't have to do anything with connor williams except team him up on the left side with armstead.

please please please
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I honestly think it's more about having someone who can play center if Deiter goes down. But I could be wrong.
 
circumstances said:
it should be

Armstead
Williams
Deiter
Hunt
Eichenberg

until proven otherwise.

eich should be fine at RT. he was never meant to play LT and had a player who failed at LT and was being given a look at LG next to him (AJ).

now he will be in his drafted position with Hunty by his side.
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I am curious to why your fascination with Eichenberg?

Like a pit bull and a bone you seemed to bite down on Eichenberg being Miami’s franchise RT before preseason even started last year if I recall correctly.

I am not saying he won’t end up being the RT. Honestly, I could care less who plays as long as they play well.

Not bashing, genuinely curious as to what you see in him that leads you to believe Eichenberg is the answer at RT, particularly with Miami moving to a zone blocking scheme requiring athleticism?
 
circumstances said:
Still need deiter to succeed.

And I agree, looking at Connor at Center is for emergency purposes only.

Don't want starting LG as primary C backup.
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I wonder about Robert Jones. He's probably best suited as a guard, but a huge center who can matchup against bigger DT's might not be a bad idea.

I'm thinking in terms if backing up Deiter, unless he can outright win the job.
 
circumstances said:
it should be

Armstead
Williams
Deiter
Hunt
Eichenberg

until proven otherwise.

eich should be fine at RT. he was never meant to play LT and had a player who failed at LT and was being given a look at LG next to him (AJ).

now he will be in his drafted position with Hunty by his side.
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Hunt played Tackle in College and played RT his rookie year.... and was/has been the best RT we've had since he's been on the roster. Just FYI
 
AdamD13 said:
I am curious to why your fascination with Eichenberg?

Like a pit bull and a bone you seemed to bite down on Eichenberg being Miami’s franchise RT before preseason even started last year if I recall correctly.

I am not saying he won’t end up being the RT. Honestly, I could care less who plays as long as they play well.

Not bashing, genuinely curious as to what you see in him that leads you to believe Eichenberg is the answer at RT, particularly with Miami moving to a zone blocking scheme requiring athleticism?
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I'm not sure about "franchise Right Tackle," lol, but we announced we were moving Robert Hunt to RG and traded up to fill the vacated RT spot with Eich.

Despite his 14 billion starts and zero sacks allowed as starting LT at Notre Dame, absolutely nobody projected him to ever play Left Tackle in the NFL.

"Who cares, right? We aren't drafting him to play LT!"

I watched a bunch of his Notre Dame film.

Training camp rolls around, and I have little doubt he will step right in, take over RT from day one as a rookie, and off we go to wherever.

Hold up. Kindley fails a conditioning test (comes in overweight, eats all the pizza, pisses in the bed, sleeps with Flo's wife, believe what you will) and now he's in the doghouse.

Guess what? "Hey, we know Eich can play Tackle, let's put him at LG for sh!ts and giggles!"

And now Jesse Davis is not keeping the bench warm, he's starting at RT.

Oy

I don't give up hope.

"It's just a matter of time until he gets a shot at the spot he was drafted for."

Weeks go by.

I think it was the last couple weeks of camp (the last week?), a tiny blurb: "Eichenberg taking snaps at Right Tackle."

Finally!

Then, inevitably, "Eichenberg named starting Right Tackle."

After like 2 1/2 snaps at the position. As a rookie.

It hadn't gone the way I envisioned, but the result was what I expected

Then AJ fails at LT and everything goes to crap where the line was concerned.

I just want to see what I was hoping we'd see last season.

Eich should have NEVER been put out there at LT. He didn't play well, but he battled. I think that experience will only benefit him going forward.
 
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