Michigan or Boston College?

[ShaBam]

So....which would you prefer:

Matt Ryan at#1 and Cherilus at #32?

OR

Jake Long at #1 and Henne at #32?

I think I go with Ryan and Cherilus, mainly because Ryan is a much better prospect then Henne is and with Sparanos talent at working with o-lines, I think he'll be able to turn Cherilus into a stud in no time at all.

 

[3rdandinches]

If that's the only choice I'd still go J.Long and Henne, I'd rather have a 2nd round bust then a 1st overall bust. We'd be screwed cap wise for 6 years if the Ice Man doesn't turn out, if Henne didn't turn out it would only be a bad pick.
Your also hoping both Ryan and Cherilus work out where in the other scenario only Henne is the question mark.

 

[ShaBam]

If that's the only choice I'd still go J.Long and Henne, I'd rather have a 2nd round bust then a 1st overall bust. We'd be screwed cap wise for 6 years if the Ice Man doesn't turn out, if Henne didn't turn out it would only be a bad pick.
Your also hoping both Ryan and Cherilus work out where in the other scenario only Henne is the question mark.

And you're also hoping both J.Long and Henne work out. We're hooped if J Long is a bust as well....but at least then, he can play somewhere else on the line, so all would not be as lost.

 

[3rdandinches]

And you're also hoping both J.Long and Henne work out. We're hooped if J Long is a bust as well....but at least then, he can play somewhere else on the line, so all would not be as lost.

M.Ryan is not half the prospect that J.Long is, only a select few actually think Ryan will be good in the NFL. Nobody has said Long will be bad, the worst thing said about Long is he'll make a great Probowl RT.
Yes if any 1st overall selection turns out to be bust we'd be hooped, but the chances between the two in which one more likely will be a bust Ryan wins out. Seeing that the consequenses of that are so great I'll take J.Long thank you. By no means am I bashing Ryan, I think he might good but not great, he just happens to be the best of a mediocre group of QB's. J.Long is he best of one of the deepest classes of OT's and I want the best not a guy we could develope.

 

[ShaBam]

M.Ryan is not half the prospect that J.Long is, only a select few actually think Ryan will be good in the NFL. Nobody has said Long will be bad, the worst thing said about Long is he'll make a great Probowl RT.
Yes if any 1st overall selection turns out to be bust we'd be hooped, but the chances between the two in which one more likely will be a bust Ryan wins out. Seeing that the consequenses of that are so great I'll take J.Long thank you. By no means am I bashing Ryan, I think he might good but not great, he just happens to be the best of a mediocre group of QB's. J.Long is he best of one of the deepest classes of OT's and I want the best not a guy we could develope.

I agree with some of this...Mostly, Matt Ryan...I mean is he SO good that we can't possibly wait another year to see what we have with the current QB's on our roster? The answer is no. Matt Ryan is not a can't-miss franchise QB prostpect, we can wait another year to find out what we have, but i'll take C.Long over J.Long.

 

[3rdandinches]

I agree with some of this...Mostly, Matt Ryan...I mean is he SO good that we can't possibly wait another year to see what we have with the current QB's on our roster? The answer is no. Matt Ryan is not a can't-miss franchise QB prostpect, we can wait another year to find out what we have, but i'll take C.Long over J.Long.

I only used J.Long because it was in your original post. I agree with what you said about Ryan, if he was an absolute stud there would be zero questions about who we'd draft.
I still think we'll take J.Long over a great OLB but I would be excited to watch C.Long line up for us.

 

[ShaBam]

I only used J.Long because it was in your original post. I agree with what you said about Ryan, if he was an absolute stud there would be zero questions about who we'd draft.
I still think we'll take J.Long over a great OLB but I would be excited to watch C.Long line up for us.

The more I think about it the more I like Jake Long. When you are guaranteeing someone so much money....I at least want to guarantee that he will be on the field in some capacity.

 

[BLITZKRIEG]

Personally, I'd take Matt Ryan at #1 and Cherilus at #32....

IN TUNALAND WE TRUST!!!!!

 

[BLITZKRIEG]

M.Ryan is not half the prospect that J.Long is, only a select few actually think Ryan will be good in the NFL.

:sidelol:

Nobody has said Long will be bad, the worst thing said about Long is he'll make a great Probowl RT.

If he's being projected as a RT, we can't afford to waste the #1 pick on him. In Miami, we're searching for a LT...

Yes if any 1st overall selection turns out to be bust we'd be hooped, but the chances between the two in which one more likely will be a bust Ryan wins out.

And you came to that conclusion based on what?? The truth is that no player has more / less of a chance at busting than any other....

Seeing that the consequenses of that are so great I'll take J.Long thank you.

That's cool, I think J. Long will end up being a very solid player no matter where he ends up after the draft...

By no means am I bashing Ryan, I think he might good but not great, he just happens to be the best of a mediocre group of QB's.

I think there's a solid debate going on right now in regards to this QB's class being considered weak. Some may view it that way, and others see it differently. Personally, although I wont call it strong, I can't call it weak either. I think guys like Ryan / Brohm are going to be special...

J.Long is he best of one of the deepest classes of OT's and I want the best not a guy we could develope.

And on the flipside, M. Ryan is the best in a small class of QB's coming out this year. So, five years down the road, when this roster is taking it's final shape, I'd rather have the best prospect at QB than I would at OT. Maybe that's just me, but I value the QB position much more than any other in football...

PHINZ RULE!!!

 

[#1dolphinsfan]

if those are the only ones we can chose i go with michigan

 

[3rdandinches]

:sidelol:



If he's being projected as a RT, we can't afford to waste the #1 pick on him. In Miami, we're searching for a LT...

He's being projected as a RT by a couple of people only based on his strength in run blocking. He'll be a top LT because he's solid everywhere.

And you came to that conclusion based on what?? The truth is that no player has more / less of a chance at busting than any other....

The QB position is the hardest position in all sport to excell at and when your under whelming to begin with your chances aren't any better. If Long isn't the LT you want him to be you move him to RT to be more effective, thus lessoning the chance of him being a bust.

That's cool, I think J. Long will end up being a very solid player no matter where he ends up after the draft...



I think there's a solid debate going on right now in regards to this QB's class being considered weak. Some may view it that way, and others see it differently. Personally, although I wont call it strong, I can't call it weak either. I think guys like Ryan / Brohm are going to be special...

You might be right they may turn out to be special, but I can only go on what I see in front of me and what I see is a great LT which we need and a good QB in Ryan and Brohm and a bunch of projects. The fact that Brohm and Ryan are close tells me neither are worthy of the #1, I'd jump all over Brohm at 32 that's great value there.

And on the flipside, M. Ryan is the best in a small class of QB's coming out this year. So, five years down the road, when this roster is taking it's final shape, I'd rather have the best prospect at QB than I would at OT. Maybe that's just me, but I value the QB position much more than any other in football...

5 years down the road an undrafted guy may be the best QB far as we know.

PHINZ RULE!!!

If the draft was an exact science the off season would suck after FA. I'm only going with the sure thing after all love him or hate him we still have an untapped talent in J.Beck.

 

[Bigjbizzle2]

i am going with the michigan guys 10 out of 10 times. henne going into the season was one of the top two qb's on just about every "scouts board" and after the only injury he ever had which mind u he played half the season with he still manages to 2 or three on most boards is amazing, then you have jake long who lets not forget last year when joe thomas and levi brown were still in the big ten, long won oline man of the year in the conference. so imo i feel like jake long is the best player in this draft anyway

 

[LLV]

That is one heck of a dilemma but seeing as how I am not a Henne fan I would be forced to take Ryan and Cherilus...

...I think :)

 

[BLITZKRIEG]

I'm only going with the sure thing

But there's no such thing....

IN TUNALAND WE TRUST!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[fishypete]

1- Jake Long

2- Flacco

2b- Nicks

If Flacco is picked before the 32nd pick...then I'd go for C. Campbell.