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Mike McCoy = Young Don Shula

I like how people use Denver's ranking as the reason for not hiring McCoy.

Question: What was Mike McCarthy's offense ranked in SF before he was hired by Green Bay?
 
Hayden Fox said:
I like how people use Denver's ranking as the reason for not hiring McCoy.

Question: What was Mike McCarthy's offense ranked in SF before he was hired by Green Bay?
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Answer:

McCarthy was the OC of the Saints from 2000-2004 before heading to SF.

I can't find the 2000-2001 stats but in 2002 the Saints had the 19th ranked total offense at 325.3 ypg and they were ranked 3rd in scoring at 27.0 ppg, in 2003 the Saints ranked 11th in total offense at 339.9 ypg and 14th in scoring at 21.3 ppg, in 2004 the Saints ranked 15th in total offense at 324.6 ypg and 14th in scoring at 21.8 ppg.

As for SF he was there for only one year and they were 32nd in the league in total offense with 224.2 ypg and 32nd in scoring at 14.9 ppg.

He was hired by Green Bay not only for his entire body of work (OC of Saints and 49ers) but because he had been the QB coach in Green Bay during his career as well. So there was some familiarity there between him and the organization and he knew the expectations there in Green Bay. Slightly similar to Zimmer and Ireland with the exception that the Dolphins are a different organization who have thier own culture apart from the Cowboys no matter how hard Ireland tries to turn it into the same culture as the Cowboys.

McCoy on the other hand has had minimal success in his career...if any.
 
McCoy showed alot by changing his offense on the fly to fit Tebow and he has a good coaching background with John Fox. I doubt the Fins would fly him in if he wasn't a strong candidate.

Not every coach gets to work with Aaron Rodgers or Drew Brees. Coaching is about getting the best out of what you got.
 
datruth55 said:
Mike McCoy's career:

2000 - Offensive assistant for the Carolina Panthers
2001 - WR coach for the Carolina Panthers
2002-2003 - Demoted from WRs coach and made an offensive assistant again for the Carolina Panthers
2004-2005 - QB/Offensive Assistant coach for the Carolina Panthers
2006 - QB coach for the Carolina Panthers (Jake Delhomme was the QB he threw for 2805 yards, 6.5 yards per attempt, 17 TDs, 11 INTs, sacked 22 times, 82.6 QB rating...incidently Matt Moore had an 87.1 QB rating this year with Karl Dorrell as his QB coach and Dorrell has never been a QB coach before in his entire career)
2007-2008 - Passing game coordinator/QB coach for the Carolina Panthers (in 2006 the Panthers were 15th in passing at 204.0 ypg, in 2007 with McCoy in charge of the passing game they dropped to 29th with 170.9 ypg, in 2008 they were 19th at 197.4 ypg...still not where they were before he took over)
2009 - OC/QB coach of the Denver Broncos (Denver ranked 15th in total offense and scored 20.4 ppg...however, I think Josh McDaniels actually called the plays that year)
2010-present - OC of the Denver Broncos (Denver was 13th in total offense that year and scored 21.5 ppg...again I think McDaniels called the plays up until he was fired after the 12th game. In the last 4 games Denver's offense put up 322.75 ypg and 20.25 ppg. They had been averaging 357.6 ypg and 21.9 ppg before he took over)

So tell me where the convincing argument is in favor of him...other than "I like what he did in Denver".
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He may or may not be the best candidate. Ireland will figure that out in the interview and that is what counts. If he gets the job, I will be excited.
 
RayStinkle said:
McCoy showed alot by changing his offense on the fly to fit Tebow and he has a good coaching background with John Fox. I doubt the Fins would fly him in if he wasn't a strong candidate.
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Exactly.

McCoy's flexibility & adaptability were IMO the criteria for the OP to draw the similarity to Don Shula.

What was it Bum Phillips said about Don Shula?

Flexibility & adaptability are rare traits these days. Need I remind you all of Henning & Tony trying to turn Henne into Pennington 2.0?
 
He changed the offense because his QB sucked balls. Anyone of us would of done that, its not as much good coaching as it is common sense.
If you have a QB who can't throw are you gonna have him throwing the ball 25-30 times a game? I think not.
Get real guys, the guy saved his job by a gimmick offense, and you want him as our HC?
Is it too late to rehire TS?
 
Bartowboy said:
Get real guys, the guy saved his job by a gimmick offense, and you want him as our HC?
Is it too late to rehire TS?
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Yet, the wildcat did not save Henning or Lee's job.

Ponder this; The offense that NOLA, the pats, Colts w/ Peyton, Green Bay to a degree is nothing more than a modified/adapted run & shoot.
 
utahphinsfan said:
Yet, the wildcat did not save Henning or Lee's job.

Ponder this; The offense that NOLA, the pats, Colts w/ Peyton, Green Bay to a degree is nothing more than a modified/adapted run & shoot.
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those guys weren't in the running for our HC job either. If McCoy is hired, ticket sales will be alltime lows.
 
Bartowboy said:
those guys weren't in the running for our HC job either. If McCoy is hired, ticket sales will be alltime lows.
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Not after people hear him talk...pretty impressive. I still want Zimmer, but out of the OC's being discussed, I like him most.
 
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