Mike Pouncey says Dolphins are learning from Ryan Tannehill

[The Goat]

Ryan is supper smart look at who he married

Is she a chef?

 

[DanTanna86]

Adam your posts are so full of misinformation and fail you appear to be a pissed off Longwhorn fan. You stated his team was stocked full of talent and yet went 6-7 last season. Yet another sensation lie by you. Check A&M's record last year little camper. And to say he competed for the starting QB position for four years is yet again a total bald faced lie. When Sherman got to A&M they had no WRs what so ever. None. Most fans that went to fall camp and spring practices could see that Tanny was better than Jerrod Johnson, but Johnson could not play WR so Tanny took one for the team and was an awesome WR - while still attending QB meetings.

Sherman was FIRED for his HORRIBLE personnel decisions and his Atrocious play calling in second halves. J. Johnson should have NEVER played a down at QB with Tanny on the team, however, Johnson was Sherm's pet cat and should have been benched in 2009. Sherman GOT FIRED FOR THIS. Half of Tannehill's interceptions were due to Sherman called short comeback and curl routes over and over and over. Rarely would a CB ever get out of his back pedal because there was never a threat of the deep ball. Your very own Jeff Fuller was responsible for no less than 5 of Tannehill's ints. Fuller REFUSED to even remotely fight for the ball when Tanny trusted him. You wonder why Fuller had a 1st-2nd round grade and went undrafted??? He killed Tannehill.

 

[hoops]

Adam your posts are so full of misinformation and fail you appear to be a pissed off Longwhorn fan. You stated his team was stocked full of talent and yet went 6-7 last season. Yet another sensation lie by you. Check A&M's record last year little camper. And to say he competed for the starting QB position for four years is yet again a total bald faced lie. When Sherman got to A&M they had no WRs what so ever. None. Most fans that went to fall camp and spring practices could see that Tanny was better than Jerrod Johnson, but Johnson could not play WR so Tanny took one for the team and was an awesome WR - while still attending QB meetings.

Sherman was FIRED for his HORRIBLE personnel decisions and his Atrocious play calling in second halves. J. Johnson should have NEVER played a down at QB with Tanny on the team, however, Johnson was Sherm's pet cat and should have been benched in 2009. Sherman GOT FIRED FOR THIS. Half of Tannehill's interceptions were due to Sherman called short comeback and curl routes over and over and over. Rarely would a CB ever get out of his back pedal because there was never a threat of the deep ball. Your very own Jeff Fuller was responsible for no less than 5 of Tannehill's ints. Fuller REFUSED to even remotely fight for the ball when Tanny trusted him. You wonder why Fuller had a 1st-2nd round grade and went undrafted??? He killed Tannehill.

i would agree with that assessment as a senior but tanny still needs to read that the dbs never respected fullers ability to beat them deep were never threatened thus they never came out of their pedal as you stated and not just fire the ball out there anyways...he has to read the dbs keys etc...some of those ints were the results of poor decisions by the qb and poor placement of balls down the field fully acknowledging that fuller didn't help his qb out on said errant vertical throws...and it's also hard to call many routes that actually go down the field when you have a wr that can't separate down the field...so in a way i think tanny and sherman were handcuffed with jeff fuller in 2011

as for sherman getting fired for calling a bad game well he's our new oc so i have some concerns there myself but if i was gonna fire anyone at a & m it would be the defensive coordinator for constantly giving up large leads in the second half...and pretty much being unable to get off the field when it mattered

 

[MiamiCalifornia]

Adam your posts are so full of misinformation and fail you appear to be a pissed off Longwhorn fan. You stated his team was stocked full of talent and yet went 6-7 last season. Yet another sensation lie by you. Check A&M's record last year little camper. And to say he competed for the starting QB position for four years is yet again a total bald faced lie. When Sherman got to A&M they had no WRs what so ever. None. Most fans that went to fall camp and spring practices could see that Tanny was better than Jerrod Johnson, but Johnson could not play WR so Tanny took one for the team and was an awesome WR - while still attending QB meetings.

Sherman was FIRED for his HORRIBLE personnel decisions and his Atrocious play calling in second halves. J. Johnson should have NEVER played a down at QB with Tanny on the team, however, Johnson was Sherm's pet cat and should have been benched in 2009. Sherman GOT FIRED FOR THIS. Half of Tannehill's interceptions were due to Sherman called short comeback and curl routes over and over and over. Rarely would a CB ever get out of his back pedal because there was never a threat of the deep ball. Your very own Jeff Fuller was responsible for no less than 5 of Tannehill's ints. Fuller REFUSED to even remotely fight for the ball when Tanny trusted him. You wonder why Fuller had a 1st-2nd round grade and went undrafted??? He killed Tannehill.

What is a bald faced lie?

 

[Krush]

Don't get hung up on where he was drafted, what makes Andrew Luck more ready than Tannehill? no one is going to learn while on the bench, and to have Tannehill, and his college coach there in miami is a huge advantage if the team allows it to be, mostly everyone wanted a QB of the future but they don't want the future to start now. Waiting another year only puts the fins in a precarrious situation if Barkley is sitting there and the fins suck like the most of you suggesting, just because a QB is picked in the number 1 posistion doesn't mean he's number one quaility. I think the fins did a diservice to Tannehill by going and bring in Garrard because it does not allow Tannehill to get better, and 2 years from now you guys on this board will be saying he's a bust.

 

[LikeUntoGod]

The playbook will not be spread, but the concepts and route combos will remain the same.

Are you trying to discount the fact that Miami's starting C says Tannehill understands what the offense is trying to accomplish better than anyone?

I think that Pouncey is smart enough to get on the side of the rookie drafted to be our future QB.

What does this mean? "Tannehill understands what the offense is trying to accomplish better than anyone?". Are you telling me that Garrard and Moore do not understand the concepts of this offense or any offense? What does "better" mean? 90% better? 50% better? 20% better? 3% better?

O wait, our 2nd season Center said that he thinks that Tannehill understand it "better". I see now, if Pouncey said it, it must be a fact.

 

[Geforce]

So your point with the "foxsports" story is that Tannehill wasn't good enough to even compete? And where does it say he didn't compete? It just says he was told that Stephen McGee would start. This article did get wrong that Tannehill didn't take a snap at QB until the 6th game his junior season. He took snaps against Oklahoma his sophmore season and the first game of the season his junior season.

Even worse, it points out that Tannehill practiced all week at QB, attending every QB meeting, but went out and played WR on Saturdays. How is that not competing at QB? You don't think if coach Sherman saw in practice that Tannehill was the better QB then he wouldn't have started him?

So after practicing and attending meetings for 4 years (including red-shirt season) and playing the final 6.5 games as a junior Tannehill was still only able to be "average" his senior season...why the **** did Ireland spend the #8 pick on him again?

I really don't get your point with the article other than confirming that Tannehill had 5 years of practice at "QB" in college, meetings, knows the system inside-and-out, started nearly 2 seasons worth of games, threw 764 passes in games....why isn't he further along?

According to this Tannehill competed his red-shirt freshman year, sophmore year, played half the year as a junior, and started as a senior.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Tannehill (not sure how that is not competing at QB all 4 years).

Wait a minute...you try to put down the "foxsports" story and then post a link to wikipedia?

Practicing and attending meetings does not mean he was allowed to compete for the starting QB job.

No I don't think if Sherman thought Tannehill was the better QB he would have started him. 2008 was Sherman's first year and Texas A&M had a bigger hole at WR than they did at QB. I think Sherman felt Stephen McGee was a competent enough QB to transition over to the offense he wanted to run and that's why he asked the other two QBs if one of them would make the move to WR.

Even after being moved to WR, Tannehill kept insisting to Sherman that he was the best QB on the team. That is probably the reason Sherman allowed Tannehill to attend QB meetings and skip WR meetings even after the switch.

Why isn't he further along? What exactly does that mean? Why isn't the game slower to him than it is? Why isn't he better than NFL veteran QBs David Garrard and Matt Moore?

As far as why did Ireland spend a #8 pick on him, you will have to ask Jeff. Maybe Ireland did it just to piss off some of the fanbase?

 

[Geforce]

Don't get hung up on where he was drafted, what makes Andrew Luck more ready than Tannehill? no one is going to learn while on the bench, and to have Tannehill, and his college coach there in miami is a huge advantage if the team allows it to be, mostly everyone wanted a QB of the future but they don't want the future to start now. Waiting another year only puts the fins in a precarrious situation if Barkley is sitting there and the fins suck like the most of you suggesting, just because a QB is picked in the number 1 posistion doesn't mean he's number one quaility. I think the fins did a diservice to Tannehill by going and bring in Garrard because it does not allow Tannehill to get better, and 2 years from now you guys on this board will be saying he's a bust.

The Dolphins did a disservice to Tannehill by bringing Garrard in five to six weeks BEFORE Ryan was even drafted? :err:

 

[Ikema]

Wow, I'm reading a lot of anger on this thread. As far as I've seen, nobody here is claiming he should be the starter. All I see is optimism. Nothing wrong with that. Just as there's nothing wrong with tannehill taking this season on the bench. It seemed to work out all right for Aaron Rodgers.

 

[ciscoholgate]

I think that Pouncey is smart enough to get on the side of the rookie drafted to be our future QB.

What does this mean? "Tannehill understands what the offense is trying to accomplish better than anyone?". Are you telling me that Garrard and Moore do not understand the concepts of this offense or any offense? What does "better" mean? 90% better? 50% better? 20% better? 3% better?

O wait, our 2nd season Center said that he thinks that Tannehill understand it "better". I see now, if Pouncey said it, it must be a fact.

Pouncey seems to be a very outspoken guy and even says that Garrard has been the best at running the offense thus far.

Tannehill worked with Sherman for years and spent off seasons going over concepts and understands what Sherman wants from his offense in certain situations and against certain defenses.

How much better is up for debate, there is no way to put a number on it. But it is enough to the point where people turn to Tannehill before they turn to Garrard or Moore when they have questions.

I believe Pouncey, why would he lie?

 

[fireguy27]

I agree, why would pouncey lie ?

 

[enigmatics]

And Tannehill has yet to throw a pass or play a down in the new offense. It is NOT the Texas A&M offense, I do not expect to see our QBs playing in the spread option which was used at A&M. For some reason a lot of people that have watched Tannehill's "hightlight" either have not noticed or mentioned the fact that he did not line up under center most of the time, he took a shotgun snap in the spread option which he also ran out of.

The bigger thing is that Tannehill has also not played a down in the NFL while Garrard and Moore are NFL veterans.

Funny how much crap Weeden got for predominantly lining up in shotgun.

 

[TakeoSpikesNeck]

It's not so much about learning the playbook in the NFL, because like you said, everyone knows it.

It's more about understanding reads, understanding timing, and knowing how to make changes (pre-snap) based on the defensive alignment.

I am sure these are the concepts that Tannehill understands in this offense that Pouncey was referring to since Tannehill has already played in it.

The others have yet to see game action in Sherman's new offense.

couldn;t have been said better. He will get his chance. but for now lets stick with Garrard and Moore. Let him sit it out and learn. We will find out soon enough in preseason and I'm really looking forward to seeing his snaps in game, with nfl speed. really hope he doesn't get killed out there and we lose him for season. I could see a disaster happening like this. Thats our luck

 

[LikeUntoGod]

I agree, why would pouncey lie ?

No one said he lied. But anything he would say would be taken and blown up. I'd say he knows where his bread is buttered. He says the old veteran is really sharp and then says the "QB of the future" is amazing.

Do you really go to a offensive lineman to find out about a QB?