Minimal set of steps that would have kept us in contention

[isaacjunk]

- we kept Ereck Flowers and bench AJ earlier (LT to RT: Eichenberg, Flowers, Dieter, Davis, Hunt). We settle on this 5 early in preseason allowing them time to gel.
We were right there roster wise but took way too long to settle on dieter at C, Eichenberg as part of best 5.
WIth this I'm saying Tua would still be our QB. I'll take my chances with Tua, our lethal WR corp and that OL above, even with our 3-headed OC system.

- Raekwon Davis stays healthy / keep Mckinney (instead of Grant or CB # 7)
Run game stops being such a liability, allowing our pass D to take over.

Everyone is focusing on OC but they were calling plays somewhat better with Tua in there. By far I think our offensive line coaching--specifically the ability to evaluate their own guys when even legions of expert fans could diagnose the right rotation---was the #1 culprit.

Also I think folks generally are under appreciating how tough it is to win with your backup starting.

 

[artdnj]

Play calling is predictable and bush league when Tua is in there or not.

 

[deester11]

Play calling is predictable and bush league when Tua is in there or not.

Exactly. Even Tua detractors should see this co-ordinator thing is a mitigated disaster. People want to anoint Herbert, but I'd kill for his support system.

 

[YorkshirePhin]

Evaluation is the be all and end all.........we have consistently failed to reasonably evaluate players.

I don't think anyone on this board can justify the Jackson and Igbo picks.

Let's be honest even when they were drafted they were classed as reaches and surprising picks.

 

[orpheus]

Evaluation is the be all and end all.........we have consistently failed to reasonably evaluate players.

I don't think anyone on this board can justify the Jackson and Igbo picks.

Let's be honest even when they were drafted they were classed as reaches and surprising picks.

Add Tua on the list as well. Can even the most optimistic Tua supporter say that he's shown the ability to be a franchise QB?

 

[Ben Had]

Add Tua on the list as well. Can even the most optimistic Tua supporter say that he's shown the ability to be a franchise QB?

I believe in a couple of weeks when he comes back we will find out.

 

[orpheus]

I believe in a couple of weeks when he comes back we will find out.

Maybe he will. Maybe he won't. I'm just saying he has not yet as of now.

 

[Sirspud]

Good offensive coaching, having a legitimate veteran linemen, and not cutting Kyle Van Noy (some don't get that it's not all about what he himself produced, it was that him being on the roster made players like Andrew Van Ginkel more effective and efficient, and we haven't gotten enough plays finished from our defense)

 

[Sirspud]

I believe in a couple of weeks when he comes back we will find out.

I believe when he is set free from Miami like Tannehill we will find out.

People have to learn that what a QB shows on a Miami team with poor coaching, no offensive line, a paltry running game with a bottom tier set of backs, and no built offensive culture really isn't indicative of a QB's viability in this league. Because we are going against NFL defenses without NFL level support of quarterbacks.

 

[YorkshirePhin]

Maybe he will. Maybe he won't. I'm just saying he has not yet as of now.

Nobody has a chance to thrive behind that OL let's be honest.

You look at Herbert and Mac Jones and they have been given a platform by being given good protection.

Fix our OL and suddenly we become competitive with a lot of the NFL.

Sadly for us we can't fix this OL mess within the next 13 games so no QB has a chance.

 

[tay0365]

Add Tua on the list as well. Can even the most optimistic Tua supporter say that he's shown the ability to be a franchise QB?

Tua in his 1st year looked as much or more of an eventual franchise QB, as many QBs that are now considered franchise QBs.

 

[Heinegrabber]

I believe in a couple of weeks when he comes back we will find out.

This is not the last time we will say this about any qb we put behind that line.

 

[Tua808]

Every worthy coach should know, you build the lines first and foremost. By Grier and Flores totally ignoring the OL, they don't know football. What's the point of providing WR's when the line can't even function on a basic level.

 

[TraderJoe]

This Monday morning, hindsight is reaching epic levels.

We now can include preventing an injury to Davis as a “step to keep us in contention”? How were we supposed to prevent that?

Should have kept Mckinney?
Well he is still a free agent so he is there for the taking but I suspect that 31 other teams also conclude that he isn’t any good.

Benardrick McKinney - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Flowers at $10 million dollars?
We currently have less than $2 million in cap space, we couldn’t afford to keep him.

Miami Dolphins Salary Cap | Over the Cap

Miami Dolphins salary cap, contracts, bonus money, dead money, and cap savings for every player

overthecap.com

Eichenberg? Is a rookie still learning how to play and has struggled; “Eichenberg let up several pressures and received the lowest pass-blocking grade on the line (30.5), per PFF”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thephinsider.com/platform/amp/2021/9/28/22696576/week-3-miami-dolphins-rookie-report-card-jaylen-waddles-confusing-usage-liam-eichenberg-struggles

 

[39wildman]

Add Tua on the list as well. Can even the most optimistic Tua supporter say that he's shown the ability to be a franchise QB?

So u willing give Tua 40 million dollar after his rookie contract up...that franchise qb..right now my answer hell no.