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I think whether or not Tua resigns soon, or if we resign him at all, which I think we will sign him soon, we need to bring a mobile Quarterback to back him up or take his place, preferably through the draft.

The reason I believe we need to consider a QB who is elite or very good at scrambling is because of Tua himself. Tua's ability to get the ball out quickly has made the oline look much better than they actually are.

If we sign Tua to a huge contract, his back up will need to be on a cheap contract and be capable to escape pressure. If we keep trying to fit these pocket passers in behind Tua, all we will see is that they do not match Tua's quick release and processing abilities which are elite. We will need someone who will be able to take off and make the defense pay for over playing the pass, whenever Tua gets injured, which he has a shown he does have to take off some games each year.

We need a contingency plan other than Mike White and Skylar Thompson if we seriously want to be contenders because injuries will come and with that much money at one position, you have to be ready to replace him or ready to lose the entire season.

At this point Tua has never had serious competition at the position. A pre-retirement Ryan Fitzpatick is not a good response to someone good he has had to beat out.
 
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BennySwella said:
I think whether or not Tua resigns soon, or if we resign him at all, which I think we will sign him soon, we need to bring a mobile Quarterback to back him up or take his place, preferably through the draft.

The reason I believe we need to consider a QB who is elite or very good at scrambling is because of Tua himself. Tua's ability to get the ball out quickly has made the oline look much better than they actually are.

If we sign Tua to a huge contract, his back up will need to be on a cheap contract and be capable to escape pressure. If we keep trying to fit these pocket passers in behind Tua, all we will see is that they do not match Tua's quick release and processing abilities which are elite. We will need someone who will be able to take off and make the defense pay for over playing the pass.
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Not an unreasonable premise.

On the other hand, we could just solidify the Oline. That would be beneficial all the way around.
 
Mach2 said:
Not an unreasonable premise.

On the other hand, we could just solidify the Oline. That would be beneficial all the way around.
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Agreed but I think the injuries are still a possibility even if that happens. We would be best suited to do both honestly.
 
In this offense, you must have a QB who is accurate and can get the ball out quickly. The back up QB must be able to do the same. If they are mobile as well, then that is great....but secondary to being able to effectively run THIS offense.

I mean the people wanting Justin Fields here, seriously have ZERO football IQ. Not anyone can run this offense, and certainly not an athlete posing as a QB.
 
BennySwella said:
At this point Tua has never had serious competition at the position. A pre-retirement Ryan Fitzpatick is not a good response to someone good he has had to beat out.
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This last paragraph makes no sense whatsoever. They're about to sign this guy to more than $50 million per year. No qb is going to be brought in for " serious competition" when the starter has just been paid that.
 
BennySwella said:
I think whether or not Tua resigns soon, or if we resign him at all, which I think we will sign him soon, we need to bring a mobile Quarterback to back him up or take his place, preferably through the draft.

The reason I believe we need to consider a QB who is elite or very good at scrambling is because of Tua himself. Tua's ability to get the ball out quickly has made the oline look much better than they actually are.

If we sign Tua to a huge contract, his back up will need to be on a cheap contract and be capable to escape pressure. If we keep trying to fit these pocket passers in behind Tua, all we will see is that they do not match Tua's quick release and processing abilities which are elite. We will need someone who will be able to take off and make the defense pay for over playing the pass, whenever Tua gets injured, which he has a shown he does have to take off some games each year.

We need a contingency plan other than Mike White and Skylar Thompson if we seriously want to be contenders because injuries will come and with that much money at one position, you have to be ready to replace him or ready to lose the entire season.

At this point Tua has never had serious competition at the position. A pre-retirement Ryan Fitzpatick is not a good response to someone good he has had to beat out.
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The new guys speed will help him run for his life behind our OL
 
sn9ke.eyes said:
This last paragraph makes no sense whatsoever. They're about to sign this guy to more than $50 million per year. No qb is going to be brought in for " serious competition" when the starter has just been paid that.
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But come on we could have 2 top 10 quarterbacks battling it out.
 
Gsmack_42 said:
But come on we could have 2 top 10 quarterbacks battling it out.
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Why wouldnt they have a contingency plan? You draft a guy with high upside just in case. Betting that Tua will never get injured is ignorant of his past.
 
BennySwella said:
Why wouldnt they have a contingency plan? You draft a guy with high upside just in case. Betting that Tua will never get injured is ignorant of his past.
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The days of having a QB on the roster to develop are long gone.

To start, only one QB can get meaningful reps with the offense in practice under the current CBA. Your backup QBs are either holding a tablet or playing on the scout team.

Beyond that, any QBs with “upside” end up going very early in the draft. Only a very small percentage of guys get as lucky as Purdy and go to a team that is a perfect scheme fit as a late round pick.

Even if you get lucky and find a guy that has upside to sit behind Tua you end up in a position where you will have to trade him or pay him down the road.

The reality is almost every NFL team does the exact same thing now. They sign a vet back up QB that is familiar with the OC/HC or scheme (like White). If their QB misses significant time, their season is toast. It doesn’t really matter how talented your roster is if your QB doesn’t play. I don’t think anyone honestly believes 38 year old Chad Henne was the Chiefs contingency plan last year; if Mahomes got hurt the 49ers would have wiped the floor with any other AFC team.
 
Need a veteran backup who can win several games and has playoff experience should Tua go done for a long stretch or if he's unable to play in a playoff game. We've already experienced both scenarios with Tua except we didn't have a solid backup to rely on in either case
 
Why not include QBs that have elite pocket awareness like Tua. I agree he makes the line look better than it is.

I have a suspicion the answer to my own question is "all those QBs are successful and highly paid NFL starters". Every QB in the NFL can throw, so pocket presence might be valued as high as anything else, even over athleticism. The media probably prefers athleticism, but Tannehill was a converted WR for godssakes, and Marino probably avoided the rush better his first game back from his Achilles injury.

I digress....you make a good point about replicating the value that Tua offers to mitigating the pass rush.
 
BennySwella said:
I think whether or not Tua resigns soon, or if we resign him at all, which I think we will sign him soon, we need to bring a mobile Quarterback to back him up or take his place, preferably through the draft.
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BennySwella said:
Why wouldnt they have a contingency plan? You draft a guy with high upside just in case. Betting that Tua will never get injured is ignorant of his past.
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