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Mock Draft: STOUT version

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Sign in FA- Lamar Miller, Alex Boone, Rishard Matthews, Nolan Carrol, Rolando McClain, Tony Moeaki, Louis Delmas

Draft Priority- Stop the run, CB/S Depth, Pass Rusher, developmental offensive lineman.


1. Robert Nkemdiche DT/DE- 6'3 296 [video]https://youtu.be/MoNwmtrGACw[/video]

"A player who will likely receive comparisons to 2015 first round pick Leonard Williams, Nkemdiche has above average athleticism for his size, using movement skills and lower body fluidity to skirt blockers and easily change directions. He can push the pocket with power and offers the versatility to make an impact vs. the run and penetrate the pocket to make plays in the backfield." - CBS Sports



2. Austin Johnson, DT- 6'4 325 [video]https://youtu.be/YY6SoLUVAOI[/video]

"STRENGTHS: Possesses the thick-cut frame to fit even and odd fronts, alike, sporting broad shoulders, a big butt and gut and tree trunks for limbs. He's stout at the point of attack, showing the coordination and leg drive to anchor as well as good core strength to stand his ground even when caught off-balance. When he attacks with his hands, Johnson can stack and shed blockers in the hole. Locates the ball quickly and hustles laterally or downfield in pursuit. As a pass rusher, he shows more effort than explosiveness or technique, chopping his hands to fight through would-be blockers but rarely slipping by them freely.
WEAKNESSES: Despite his gaudy sack production, Johnson is more of a run-stuffer than a pass-rusher. He isn't particularly quick off the ball and like a lot of heavier players, Johnson struggles with pad level. Too often he doesn't extend his arms, playing chest to chest with blockers and only releasing after the ballcarrier is at or past the line of scrimmage.
COMPARES TO: Eddie Goldman, Chicago Bears - A well-built player who carries his weight well, Johnson has the quickness to provide an interior push, but his specialty is holding up vs. multiple blockers to clog the middle and mirror ballcarriers.
IN OUR VIEW: Although not a rangy player, Johnson has a motor that is always revving and he moves well in small areas with strong hands to stack and create movement. A player whose production matches the tape, Johnson has an impressive blend of power, quickness and awareness to fit three- and four-man fronts."

3. Sean Davis, FS- 6'1 201 [video]https://youtu.be/MFyRLacAtTE[/video]

"STRENGTHS: Sports an imposing frame with prototypical size, including long (32 3/8-inch) arms and a chiseled frame. An absolute lights-out hitter who generates terrific closing speed and bone-crushing collisions on a regular basis, attacking the line of scrimmage whether he is coming from safety or cornerback. Downhill closing speed shows up in coverage as well, where he can zip in front of receivers on underneath routes.
Accelerates fluidly and appears to possess the straight-line speed necessary to handle coverage duties in the NFL, as well as be a potential special teams demon. Experienced playing both cornerback and safety. Improved recognition and ball-skills as a senior, recording a career high three interceptions.
WEAKNESSES: Looks and covers like a safety, showing a high back pedal and choppy turning motion which allows receivers relatively easy separation. A better hitter than cover man and seems to know it, opting to try to knock the ball out of the hands of receivers as they catch it rather than eliminate the catch with his ability to remain between the ball and quarterback. Too often loses track of his receiver, sneaking peeks back at the quarterback. Struggles with double-moves, lacking ideal balance and recovery speed.
Offers intriguing traits but may prove a project regardless of which position he's ultimately asked to play in the NFL.
IN OUR VIEW: Another cornerback/safety hybrid, Davis boasts the size, length and muscular build that NFL scouts covet in the secondary. He is an aggressive run defender with the tackling skills and power to dislodge the football, ranking second in the FBS last season with five forced fumbles. Davis, who was listed as a safety at the Senior Bowl, has some 'tweener traits as an athlete, so his performance in pre-draft drills will give teams a better idea of his best position in the NFL."

4. DJ White, CB- 5'11 190[video]https://youtu.be/eja6EVq077Q[/video]

STRENGTHS:
Lacks elite size but possesses tight skin, good length and terrific overall athleticism.

Experienced playing in press, off-man and zone coverage showing great quickness, fluidity and awareness. Has light feet, good balance and the fluid hips to change directions easily, showing off the natural coverage skills scouts covet. Shows impressive hand-eye coordination and mental toughness snaking his arm through would-be pass-catchers to knock passes and has proven ballskills with seven career interceptions.
Good body control, including timing on his leaps and awareness of the boundary lines to corral interceptions. High-points the ball, taking advantage of his size and athleticism and beating bigger receivers for the ball. Tenacious tackler who rips at the ball and looks to punish ballcarriers. Highly competitive. Willing to drop his shoulder to deliver a surprising hit or extend, grab and throw to the ground emphatically.
Very good effort in pursuit, showing a never-say-die attitude. No known serious injuries to date. Voted a team captain in 2015.

WEAKNESSES: Possesses only average size for the position. May prove more quick than fast, showing limited recovery speed when he is beaten in coverage or in run support. Very confident in his athleticism and will, at times, be too patient in allowing receivers to get near him, opening up late and providing a sliver of separation before closing. Inconsistent pursuit angles.
IN OUR VIEW: White may lack the name recognition of this year's top corners but he's athletic, confident and has shown a knack for making game-changing plays in big games. He may have to be moved inside to nickel in the NFL but given that this is a starting position for many teams in today's pass-happy NFL, it is a role which could suit him perfectly.

5. Yannick Ngakoue, DE/OLB- 6'2 250 [video]https://youtu.be/NIbE2jCi684[/video]

"STRENGTHS: Ngakoue has the edge athleticism to burst off the snap and threaten the corner with quickness and flexibility. Ngakoue has a powerful hand slap and good lateral agility to keep opponents from latching on. He stays balanced in his movements to easily change directions and make an impact in pursuit.

WEAKNESSES: Ngakoue doesn't have ideal length for the position and needs to develop his functional strength to match power-with-power. Not yet powerful enough to rip free quickly when defenders do latch on and doesn't possess ideal length to project great improvement in this area. Too often Ngakoeu is effectively sealed off by tight ends in the running game.
IN OUR VIEW: Ngakoue is a classic 'tweener with the burst to challenge tackle's reach but only average flexibility and closing speed while running the arc. His instincts have improved from last season, playing with more purpose and awareness in 2015."

6. Brandon Shell, OT- 6-6 325

"STRENGTHS: Looks the part of an NFL player, sporting a massive frame with good overall weight distribution and including broad shoulders, thick thighs but a relatively trim middle. For a man of his size, he shows good initial quickness and holds up well in pass protection because of his length and patience. Eases back off the snap and allows defenders to come to him, generally latching and controlling opponents.

WEAKNESSES: The longer Shell is asked to pass protect, the more his issues become apparent. Too often Shell settles into a spot and allows his feet to stop shuffling laterally. Quicker edge rushers with active hands to keep him from latching on can give him problems with speed odd the edge or counters back inside. As some draft analysts would say, Shell is a classic heavy-legged, waist-bender.
Because he plays tall and doesn't move his feet, Shell isn't the consistently dominating presence in the run game that his size and experience would indicate.
IN OUR VIEW: He needs to improve his depth and balance in his stance, but Shell has the wide base and quickness off the snpa to set up shop and engage rushers. Defensive edge rushers had a tough time rushing against the right side of the offensive line during Shrine Game practices."

7. Terrance Smith, LB- 6-3 220 [video]https://youtu.be/YJzV8Pr_iUE[/video]

"STRENGTHS: Rangy athlete with terrific speed and footwork to quickly redirect and burst north, south, east or west. Plays with above average speed for the position to explode through holes at the line of scrimmage and meet the ballcarrier before he can escape the backfield. His acceleration allows him to stick with running backs and tight ends in coverage.
WEAKNESSES: Lacks ideal power and growth potential. Plays with an aggressive, attacking mentality that will cause false steps and inaccurate angles at times. Tends to be too hands-on downfield.
IN OUR VIEW: Smith has next-level potential and with development in some areas, he should at worst be a key special teams performer in the NFL. His aggressive mentality will serve him well."

7. Eric Mac Lain, OG- 6'4 315

"STRENGTHS: Though he always wanted to be the next Jason Witten, it was worth the wait and transition for Mac Lain from tight end to the offensive line. Mac Lain really played well for the high octane Clemson offense in 2015.
What you can't see with Mac Lain are his outstanding leadership skills both on and off the field and certainly in the locker room and practice fields. He is well liked and highly respected by his coaches and teammates. Puts in the work and then some, and is a teacher to the younger players.
Good athlete still learning how to play on the offensive line. Can be physical, has good feet and is highly intelligent. Big boned and tall but has guard arms. Can put a hat on a defender and drive off ball.
WEAKNESSES: Limited experience, and with that comes the lack of proper playing technique. Has a tackle body but has to play guard. Struggles out on the island in space. Much more suited inside. Still has some difficulties in pass pro and tends to play too high; loses his balance and then loses the battle. Tends to struggle against fronts that play games.
IN OUR VIEW: Mac Lain is a good developmental prospect. Just think how far he has come already - he's a great worker and even better leader. For some team that is really looking ahead and has a season or two to develop Mac Lain, they could certainly get a return on their investment. But that team must possess patience and have good coaching."






Oh boy if you thought I was crazy getting a DT in the top ten right after signing Suh and drafting Jordan Phillips last year, you're going to think I'm BONKERS! But to be honest, the defensive line is where every possible problem or solution starts. First off the bat, I'm starting

Nkemdiche at RE, I think he is athletic enough to be there full time and becomes not only a great run stuffer on the edge, but also a force on passing downs; with OV taking 12mil/yr somewhere I'm comfortable paying Nkemdiche what,3-4mil/yr for 4-5 years?

Austin Johnson is a rock, he's going to come in and be the DT that takes the blockers away from Suh, stuff the run, and give Jordan Phillips the 3rd DT spot to come in on passing downs, where I feel he is best suited.

Next we get a solid 4 year starting safety that plays well against the run, and has ball skills that starts right away with Jones.

DJ White is the next pick that gives us a boundary corner with good awareness and closing ability, reminds me of Terrell Buckley, that can move into the slot as well and provide good depth.

I think Yannick is my man crush of the draft, idk why but he really reminds me of Wake; great burst, needs to add strength but really jumps out at me as a guy who can come in on 3rd downs and blitz off the edge.

Shell's a big boy, great size and comes in as our swing developmental tackle, can't be any worse than Jason Fox.

Terrance Smith is a gamer, very rangy player, big hitter, almost could play as a 3rd safety like Arizona does, special teamer.

Mac Lain has that TE to OL story that at least worked for Joe Staley of the 49ers, couldn't hurt to develop him more and becomes our backup guard.

So my roster would look like this:


QB- Tannehill, Thomas
RB- Miller, Ajayi, Williams
TE- Cameron, Sims, Moeaki
WR- Parker, Matthews, Landry, Stills, Hazel
OT- Albert, James, Turner, Shell
OG- Boone, Douglas, Turner, Mac Lain
C- Pouncey, and yes Dallas Thomas (Wade Smith effect)
DE- Wake, Nkemdiche, Fede, Moore
DT- Suh, Johnson, Phillips, Coleman
LB- Jenkins, Hewitt, McClain, Smith, Jordan,Ngakoue, Vigil
CB- Grimes, Carroll, McCain, White, Lippett, Taylor
FS- Delmas, Davis, Thomas
SS- Jones, Aikens
K- Franks
P- Darr
LS- Denney




I mean, look at that defensive line! I know some of you will think it's redundant, but how are you going to run on that? And we still highlight our best pass rusher in Wake with 3 monsters taking on multiple blockers, and I could easily see Nkemdiche slimming down some and becoming the next Peppers. Fede becomes our new Shelby and Moore becomes our new Fede lol.

Boone comes in and gives us a legitimate RG, who has the size and strength and saavy, that can give us production against some of the best fronts in the NFL. I don't care about scheme fit, we go up against dominant fronts and we could use some power for our run game and Boone comes from SF where power was their MO these last few years.

Miller and Rishard resign once Gase tells them that we're actually going to use them to their full ability and resigning both players really cements the offense and brings continuity into the offseason where we will already have to learn a new system, let alone get used to new players.

Carrol becomes our #2 and isn't such a hot name to where signing him takes away all of our cap. Really thought he developed well before we chose not to resign him, get's to come back and start opposite of Grimes.

Rolando definitely remade himself in Dallas, I think that continues here in Miami and while not the sexiest choice, provides a solid veteran presence in the middle at a fair price in an unfortunate year where the best linebackers in the draft have medical concerns.

Delmas is an unquestioned leader of the secondary, on a cheap vet min deal I would love to have him back, with my draft already preparing for an eventual injury, and still having Michael Thomas, Delmas wouldn't be a back breaker to bring back.

Dion Jordan, can you please surprise everyone and magically come back and dominate? I think Misi gets cut, and as of now in my offseason, it would be Jordan, Ngakoue, and Vigil manning the SAM. If this guy could just focus on playing football, lose the weight, and try, him coming off the edge with Wake or dropping back into coverage against TE's would be a dream come true. If not, we save 3 million, and we might have to put Hewitt there who played admirably against Gronk in the last game.
 
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If you're going to gamble in round one go big and draft Spence.

I still say McLain is a nut job.


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Very interesting take. I'll say this, our LB, guard and secondary woes are kind of masking over a potentially BIG problem on the d-line next year. Wake, Shelby, Vernon Suh and Mitchell wasn't exactly an unqualified success last season and we're potentially losing 3 or maybe 4 of those 5. If you resign everyone, you're back where you started. If you don't , you have a huge rebuild.

I agree with you too that we need a big DE to complement whoever of Wake or Vernon (or Coples) that we keep. Not sure I'd go Nkemdiche at #8 but this year there's a healthy choice of explosive DEs and DE/DTs in big bodies, through the first 3 or 4 rounds. I also think adding a run stuffing, space eater would allow us to go a different direction in our FA/draft approach to the LB position. There's a lack of big, athletic mikes available this year, so maybe you can afford to trade physicality for athleticism across the LB corps if you can effectively clog the lanes in front. Makes Jack, Smith, Lee, Perry, Cravens and others much more attractive, to know they won't have to spend all their time fighting off blocks and instead flying around and causing havoc to opposition defenses.

I'd have different corners, safeties and swing tackles in mind, but that's personal preference and I agree with your rationale on all of the spots.
 
Interesting piece on Nkemdiche from scout.com. Politely skirts around him smashing a hotel window, climbing along a wall and falling off - presumably stoned out of his gourd. The fact he seems resolutely unapologetic about who he is and how he lives will keep a few GMs in the NFL up at night. It all might turn out fine and it could be he's a model player in the pros, but he doesn't sound like he's planning to toe the company line. 31 GMs loss might be 1 GMs big gain, who knows?

http://www.scout.com/college/ole-miss/story/1624905-the-weird-addiction
 
Don't like going with such a high risk, boom/bust type with the #8 pick. Do like most of your draft, though.
 
Very interesting take. I'll say this, our LB, guard and secondary woes are kind of masking over a potentially BIG problem on the d-line next year. Wake, Shelby, Vernon Suh and Mitchell wasn't exactly an unqualified success last season and we're potentially losing 3 or maybe 4 of those 5. If you resign everyone, you're back where you started. If you don't , you have a huge rebuild.

I agree with you too that we need a big DE to complement whoever of Wake or Vernon (or Coples) that we keep. Not sure I'd go Nkemdiche at #8 but this year there's a healthy choice of explosive DEs and DE/DTs in big bodies, through the first 3 or 4 rounds. I also think adding a run stuffing, space eater would allow us to go a different direction in our FA/draft approach to the LB position. There's a lack of big, athletic mikes available this year, so maybe you can afford to trade physicality for athleticism across the LB corps if you can effectively clog the lanes in front. Makes Jack, Smith, Lee, Perry, Cravens and others much more attractive, to know they won't have to spend all their time fighting off blocks and instead flying around and causing havoc to opposition defenses.

I'd have different corners, safeties and swing tackles in mind, but that's personal preference and I agree with your rationale on all of the spots.

Thanks for the reply, and yes I agree with you that there is an underrated problem on the defense that starts on the line. We are going to keep Wake, no questions about that, but he is getting up there in age; I see him having another solid two years, maybe three. Suh is here to stay for a while, but after those two players what do we really have? Earl Mitchell seems like he's going to be a cap cut, OV is most likely going to walk unless we tag him, Phillips/Fede/Moore/Coleman are developmental projects yet to be determined. With that in mind, I feel it becomes painfully obvious that we need to bolster the position that directly effect our two best players (Suh, Wake) all the while with huge investment constraints. So with that in mind, that was why I feel like it would be a smart move to double down on the Dline with top talent on 4-5 yr deal rookie contracts; we won't have to wait 4 years for production and development as they are players within the first two rounds who are generally more pro ready and can make a more immediate impact than say a 4-7th rounder.

And yes I agree with you, if we get some beef up front to clog the lanes, I think it would definitely change our desires of what we want out of the linebacker position; we could be more rangy and aggressive.
 
Some of those players are very big men. I wouldn't hate getting bigger and physical by any means. In this division, it might be what we need.
 
Definitely agree, Tbaum stressed we have to win our division above all else and we can't be a ballerina finesse team to do that. We are in a dogfight of a division with no brutes to go heads up against the Dareus, Wilkerson, Malcom Browns of our division. Would be nice to immediately retool our line on both sides, have our own dominant defensive front, and move people off the line on offense.
 
Once I got past Robert Nkemdiche as the #1 pick, this draft looks really good. And Nkemdiche certainly could be a player, but I'd go Lawson/Bucker/Dodd over him.

Love the idea of getting a run stuffing DT early. I'd do the same thing and I hope the front office sees this as an area of need. It's a need that not many are talking about. Give Suh a teammate that can stuff the run and the whole line gets better. I'd even look for a trade down scenario in R1 to get Reed or Robinson from Alabama.

Love your late picks with Smith and Shell. I think Shell could end up 4th round range, but we'll see. Lots of nice players late.
 
Thanks brotha, yeah I think you, Birdmund, and I have been the trio on believing we should prioritize DT early haha.
 
Thanks brotha, yeah I think you, Birdmund, and I have been the trio on believing we should prioritize DT early haha.

Trading down and getting Butler, Robinson or Billings just would be my dream first round. I'm actually starting to like Butler the most.


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Butler definitely looks the part, in a way reminds me of Phillips.

Phillips could still be great but from a maturity standpoint he seems like a 16 year old. I also don't see rage in Phillips game. I see that with Butler.


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Apparently we want Phillips to slim down some, I'm guessing if he comes in 10-15lbs lighter we may start to see that range, he's definitely athletic for his size. If he loses the weight I think he could be a great 3rd DT to come in and rush the qb.

Also if we trade down and take Billings and acquire a draft pick, wouldn't bother me at all.
 
Boone and Nkemdiche in this locker room? Might as well throw in Pacman and Incognito and maximize the potential of an already highly dysfunctional bunch.

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While I understand the appeal of having players with an "edge" to them, the problem with having a team full of these kinds of guys is that when **** goes wrong, it goes VERY wrong. They can't recover and they bring the whole house (or Ferrari) down with them. We already have that problem with the current bunch of unprofessional turds. Now we're going to double down on it? I can't see how that's a good thing.
 
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