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Wildbill3 said:
We need a leader, not a playcaller.
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You are dead on. Maybe Philbin is, but I got nothing to go on in terms of that. I know Zimmer is...

I am not sure the HC is going to have the time...especially if it his first job...to be focused on developing a QB and conducting an offense. That is a negative to the OC's that we have interviewed to this point.
 
I've never lost a son, and I have 5. I feel blessed to not experience that tragedy. But I really really cant see an OC starting a HC job in a different city with so much stress on him, so many expectations, so much pressure by fans and owner alike to produce a winner be in the right place mentally to handle it.
No, Im not him, but a common suggestion from psychiatry is to have at least 6 months in between life altering incidents. Losing his son, and taking the reins of this mess is too close together. Just my opinion.
 
I have to believe that Zimmer and Carmichael are right up there. I am not sure how dynamic Philbin is but between those 3 i would think you have a pretty good coach. Let's hope they get it right! Seems like a no brainer to interview Pete and have a 2nd rd with Zimmer until the Packs season is over.
 
flynryan15 said:
Philbon is Sparano part 2! I know now bash Gannon!

Packers offensive coordinator Joe Philbin “isn’t a quarterback guy — he’s more of an offensive line guy. He’s not the play-caller,” Gannon said. “[Cincinnati offensive coordinator] Jay Gruden is outstanding, but he’s not leaving. [Carolina offensive coordinator] Rob Chudzinski is probably the next guy who’s left.”
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I'm wathcing the Packers right now and Philbin is in the coaches booth sitting where the coordinators sit. Is that just a good seat for him cause he does nothing or is he really doing his job, relaying what he sees to Mike McCarthy and suggesting adjustments?

I'm sure Gannon has spent significants amount of his time in the Packers organization and in games to make such a statement about Philbin and his coaching ability. I've always thought if Philbin was hired he would bring Tom Clements with him as his OC...or is Gannon going to say Clements isn't a QB guy either...somehow the development of Aaron Rodgers and Matt Flynn was by pure chance and it just happened out of no where...or maybe Mike McCarthy developed them with all his free time away from running the entire team, organizing practices, evaluating his players, reviewing games plans and making adjustments during the week of how they want to play the opponenets....lots of free time for him.

I look at the teams that run the WCO (Packers #3 in total offense, Eagles #4 in total offense, Texans #13 in total offense, Washington #16 in total offense and Cleveland #29 in total offense) and outside of Washington and Cleveland who don't have the personnel to run the offense yet that offense puts up some explosive plays. We were ranked 22nd in total offense last year, Washington was ranked higher than we were and Rex Grossman sucks. An average QB with good accuracy can make that offense dangerous. The Texans use the ZBS with it and it makes them even more dangerous.

The WCO and a 3-4 defense have always been what I've wanted the Dolphins to run...now we're on the verge of not have either one if we hire Zimmer or Toub.
 
Mage_Phin said:
Just because he's on the Packers staff, and is lucky enough to have Rodgers as his QB, doesn't mean he's ready to be a HC. Give me Zimmer any day over Philbin.
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It also doesn't mean he is not ready either...goes both ways. It's an unknown, as it is for all of them who haven't been an HC before.
 
ive never liked any of gannons comments on any subject. He plays favorites.
 
I would raid the packers entire roster and staff, philbin, flynn jordy nelson all free agents
 
I'm not as high on Joe Philbin as I am some of the others, but just because he is an offensive line coach is no reason to not hire him. Here are a few other offensive line coaches that made head coaches:

1. Andy Reid - Coached the OL at San Francisco State University, Northern Arizona, UTEP, Missouri, and in Green Bay. Never called a play until he became a head coach. Career record 126-81
2. Mike Sherman - Coached the OL at Tulane, Holy Cross, Texas A&M, and UCLA prior to coming into the NFL as a TE coach with the Packers. Spent one year as offensive coordinator for Mike Holmgren in Seattle before becoming the head coach of the Packers. Career record 57-39 with the Packers, 25-25 with Texas A&M.
3. Kirk Ferentz - Coached the OL at Iowa, Maine, Cleveland Browns, and Baltimore Ravens. Career record at Iowa as head coach is 108-87.
4. Bill Callahan - Coached the OL at Northern Arizona, Wisconsin, and Philadelphia Eagles. Coached the Raiders to the Superbowl in his first year as a head coach. 17-18 with the Raiders, 27-22 at Nebraska.
 
If this keeps up, Joe Philbin will be available tomorrow. Eli may put the dagger in on this drive, and New York's defense is bothering and rerouting GB's receivers very well.
 
I don't mean this is a bad way or to be disrespectful, but after what happened to his son he may want to leave the area he is in to try and help himself and family to move on. We may get lucky because of a terrible tragedy.
 
Fintastical1025 said:
I don't mean this is a bad way or to be disrespectful, but after what happened to his son he may want to leave the area he is in to try and help himself and family to move on. We may get lucky because of a terrible tragedy.
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Yep. Definitely messed up but I've thought the same thing. I think I'd rather Carmichael over Philbin but I'm not the one in the interview room.

Zimmer s my guy.
 
New York's defense is bothering and rerouting GB's receivers very well.
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yep KB, they sure are.

how about PERRY FEWELL as a head coach candidate. so much more deserving than a ho-hum db coach like todd bowles who everyone is wacky over right now. his defenses are inovative and productive and his units are successful against big time offenses, not just bottom feeders. THATS a coach.

perry is one of my fav's for a shot at the h/c job but i dont think ireland and ross even know who he is.
 
Philbin will be free to talk in about 5 minutes. lol.

Zimmer is such the safer choice. I am a broken record, but he will be able to put a great staff together.
 
NRA said:
yep KB, they sure are.

how about PERRY FEWELL as a head coach candidate. so much more deserving than a ho-hum db coach like todd bowles who everyone is wacky over right now. his defenses are inovative and productive and his units are successful against big time offenses, not just bottom feeders. THATS a coach.

perry is one of my fav's for a shot at the h/c job but i dont think ireland and ross even know who he is.
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dude was the DC of the bills for a while and became interim head coach...im pretty sure they know who he is
 
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