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Within the last couple of weeks, we have been talking about FA. We have been discussing the players who could come to Miami or change the overall picture for the Dolphins. Well,some of them might not be coming to Miami, but they could change the way things playout in Miami thru FA and the draft. I am not sure if any of you are familiar with Sportsrumormill.com. In this site's Raiders' thread, one of the members proposed the following trade:
The Raiders would trade Moss to the Packers for a 3rd round pick + Bubba Franks. The Raiders would give the 3rd pick to the Texans for Carr. Thus,they can draft Calvin Johnson with the #1 overall pick.
That would be a great trade for them (And I would hate them even more after the trade). It would also be good for other teams. JaMarcus Russell would not be picked with the #1 pick. Thus, he would fall to another team with QB needs. That gives us a greater chance to draft Quinn at #9.
What are your thoughts about this? Do you think it is possible? Sounds crazy?
 
i would not want quinn here and that would still leave the raiders without a quality QB... which would make them idiots. calvin johnson would be a good pickup by them however. but im not gonna get all riled up about a trade proposed on a message board.
 
PhinCanuck said:
Within the last couple of weeks, we have been talking about FA. We have been discussing the players who could come to Miami or change the overall picture for the Dolphins. Well,some of them might not be coming to Miami, but they could change the way things playout in Miami thru FA and the draft. I am not sure if any of you are familiar with Sportsrumormill.com. In this site's Raiders' thread, one of the members proposed the following trade:
The Raiders would trade Moss to the Packers for a 3rd round pick + Bubba Franks. The Raiders would give the 3rd pick to the Texans for Carr. Thus,they can draft Calvin Johnson with the #1 overall pick.
That would be a great trade for them (And I would hate them even more after the trade). It would also be good for other teams. JaMarcus Russell would not be picked with the #1 pick. Thus, he would fall to another team with QB needs. That gives us a greater chance to draft Quinn at #9.
What are your thoughts about this? Do you think it is possible? Sounds crazy?
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Raiders may trade Moss, but won't trade for Carr.
 
PhinCanuck said:
Within the last couple of weeks, we have been talking about FA. We have been discussing the players who could come to Miami or change the overall picture for the Dolphins. Well,some of them might not be coming to Miami, but they could change the way things playout in Miami thru FA and the draft. I am not sure if any of you are familiar with Sportsrumormill.com. In this site's Raiders' thread, one of the members proposed the following trade:
The Raiders would trade Moss to the Packers for a 3rd round pick + Bubba Franks. The Raiders would give the 3rd pick to the Texans for Carr. Thus,they can draft Calvin Johnson with the #1 overall pick.
That would be a great trade for them (And I would hate them even more after the trade). It would also be good for other teams. JaMarcus Russell would not be picked with the #1 pick. Thus, he would fall to another team with QB needs. That gives us a greater chance to draft Quinn at #9.
What are your thoughts about this? Do you think it is possible? Sounds crazy?
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Interesting scenario. But I see a team like Tampa Bay, Minny, or even Detroit trading for Carr. Also, dont sleep on KC trading for Carr too.

OAK is a possibility because then they can either draft Calvin Johnson or Joe Thomas at #1. And to me, they really need Joe Thomas. Gallery is a B-U-S-T.
 
MofoPhin said:
i would not want quinn here and that would still leave the raiders without a quality QB... which would make them idiots. calvin johnson would be a good pickup by them however. but im not gonna get all riled up about a trade proposed on a message board.
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:shakeno:

first: quinn would fit here.....is more that just a good Qb.....
second: carr is better than brooks or anyone of the raiders.....so he have more Quality for them
third: if you dont want to get all riled up.......dont write here....!!

PS i want quinn in number 9 if he still last there.....so, that would be an excellent trade for us
 
a third rounder for carr... I doubt that, even if it did happen it would mean that we would have a lower shot at getting Brady Quinn because then the Texans would need a QB.
 
The Packers give up their 3rd pick AND Bubba Franks for Moss? If the Raiders really want to get rid of Moss, Green Bay will not have to make Franks a part of the deal.
 
Caldolfan said:
Say no to Quinn, we have too many other needs to fill.
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you can say that about anyone. :rolleyes2 One of those needs just happens to be a QB. Yes we have more than one need but that is like saying don't draft Joe Thomas we have to many other needs........it just dosent make any sense.
 
WOOW Favre would be happy!!

Donald Driver, Randy Moss, Robert Ferguson, The two rooks also who showed Promise Favre will have a field day
 
PublixSubsRule said:
a third rounder for carr... I doubt that, even if it did happen it would mean that we would have a lower shot at getting Brady Quinn because then the Texans would need a QB.
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Kubiak would bring Jake Plummer from the Broncos. That is what I have been hearing this week. If I was Kubiak, I would stick with Carr. He is not a bad QB. He just does nto ahve a decent OL.
 
PhinCanuck said:
Within the last couple of weeks, we have been talking about FA. We have been discussing the players who could come to Miami or change the overall picture for the Dolphins. Well,some of them might not be coming to Miami, but they could change the way things playout in Miami thru FA and the draft. I am not sure if any of you are familiar with Sportsrumormill.com. In this site's Raiders' thread, one of the members proposed the following trade:
The Raiders would trade Moss to the Packers for a 3rd round pick + Bubba Franks. The Raiders would give the 3rd pick to the Texans for Carr. Thus,they can draft Calvin Johnson with the #1 overall pick.
That would be a great trade for them (And I would hate them even more after the trade). It would also be good for other teams. JaMarcus Russell would not be picked with the #1 pick. Thus, he would fall to another team with QB needs. That gives us a greater chance to draft Quinn at #9.
What are your thoughts about this? Do you think it is possible? Sounds crazy?
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I actually think that if Russell doesn't go to the Raiders, he'll be the QB to fall to Miami at 9 while Quinn goes ahead of him(Detroit, Cleveland, Washington, Minnesota, Houston).

While I'm excited about the prospect of Quinn, the prospect of Russell scares me. I think it's because Russell has already been compared to Daunte Culpepper albeit the comparison was size/strength and nothing to do with the ability to read defenses. Russell also appears to be more of a project than Quinn

Still, if Russell were to fall to us, I don't see how we can pass him up even on a trade down unless Mueller really likes some other QB in a later a round.
 
Carr could go to the Browns. No source, just an ideal scenario. Moss will be traded, but I think the Raiders end up taking a QB unless they have enough faith in Walters, who has shown a cannon arm and has strong upside, or they pick one up via trade or FA.
 
IluvJuMiami said:
I actually think that if Russell doesn't go to the Raiders, he'll be the QB to fall to Miami at 9 while Quinn goes ahead of him(Detroit, Cleveland, Washington, Minnesota, Houston).

While I'm excited about the prospect of Quinn, the prospect of Russell scares me. I think it's because Russell has already been compared to Daunte Culpepper albeit the comparison was size/strength and nothing to do with the ability to read defenses. Russell also appears to be more of a project than Quinn

Still, if Russell were to fall to us, I don't see how we can pass him up even on a trade down unless Mueller really likes some other QB in a later a round.
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I am not a Russell Fan. He is compared to DC due to his size and bulk for the QB position. Scouts state that he might have the strongest arm and can make all the throws. He is mobile enough to hurt defenses with his feet. His release is somehow like Joey's, at least in how quick it is. I am not sure if he can throw well on the run, I would have to chk on that one.
I think he is a bit raw as a passer and needs improvement on his technique and throwing mechanics. I am not sure how accurate he is, I have not seen enough of his game. I watch the Sugar Bowl and he looked good enough. However, I rather have Quinn any day.
 
Quinn???!!!

you would rather have quinn over russell any day because of what exactly?

I don't understand.
 
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