Multiple draft picks?

[gregorygrant83]

Considering the depth of this years draft and Miami's needs, would you consider trading Miami's 2015 first round pick (for 2 second round picks this year) or Miami's second round pick in 2015 (for two third round picks this year)? That would put Miami in a position to address several needs early in the draft and give the Hickey era a slightly better chance to make some noise in the first season. I think a couple of teams have multiple picks in the third round this year but nobody has multiple seconds yet, but that could change between now and draft day. I think the second round pick for two thirds this year makes sense.

 

[fininpsl]

No. I don't think you ever really want to trade future early picks like that.

 

[gregorygrant83]

No. I don't think you ever really want to trade future early picks like that.

I understand a lot of people think that way, but I'm not sure why. If you have a choice between two players that you really like now versus one unknown player next year why would you not consider it? For example if Xavier Su'a Filo and Carlos Hyde could be drafted this year in exchange for a pick next year I might consider it.

I understand the risk "what if Miami tanks next year and that pick is number 1 overall" than the trade looks horrible. But sometimes you need to take a risk.

 

[MiamiDolphin618]

I dont think I would trade a future pick. However, depending on how the draft falls I could definitely be swayed into trading down. Thats purely based on who I really like and where I think they would end up getting drafted. Im personally a big fan of guys like: Ryan Shazier, Allan Robinson, Brandon Cooks, Jace Amaro, CJ Mosely, Jeremy Hill, Lache Seastrunk, Billy Turner, among others...Look at that list and I can tell you most people are figuring several of those guys are getting picked in the late 1st early 2nd range...before we would have a chance with our 2nd pick.

 

[fininpsl]

I understand a lot of people think that way, but I'm not sure why. If you have a choice between two players that you really like now versus one unknown player next year why would you not consider it? For example if Xavier Su'a Filo and Carlos Hyde could be drafted this year in exchange for a pick next year I might consider it.

I understand the risk "what if Miami tanks next year and that pick is number 1 overall" than the trade looks horrible. But sometimes you need to take a risk.

Because the odds are you will really like the unknown player you can draft a year from now compared to the second one you can draft now precisely because you are having to trade a higher pick next year for a lower pick this year. You are giving up a whole round of value in your scenario. It looks like a deep draft right now, but that doesn't mean it will be in the long haul. It's also possible that this is a deep class, but next years will be even better. Then you don't have the picks you want when you really want them. If we are projecting this year as a deep and talented draft I'm not opposed at all to trading back and picking up some more picks. But not if a guy we REALLY want is there in the first when we pick.

 

[Dolphin Dave]

Based on the compensation you cited, I would take that deal in a heartbeat. However, if you go back and look at trades like this you will most likely find two seconds for a future first is high. New England has done this several times by trading their single second for a first round the following year.

 

[gregorygrant83]

Because the odds are you will really like the unknown player you can draft a year from now compared to the second one you can draft now precisely because you are having to trade a higher pick next year for a lower pick this year.

Not sure if I was clear in the op, but I'm saying trade next years first for two seconds this year (or second for for two thirds), giving Miami a total of three second round picks this year. In theory getting four picks in the top two rounds this year and one next year, instead of two and two. I think Miami's odds of getting two starters out five picks is better than getting two out of four.

 

[gregorygrant83]

Based on the compensation you cited, I would take that deal in a heartbeat. However, if you go back and look at trades like this you will most likely find two seconds for a future first is high. New England has done this several times by trading their single second for a first round the following year.

I can't see too many teams trading straight up a first to New England for their second seeing that New England normally selects at the end of the round. That would be something like trading pick 60 this year for pick 25 next year. I can't recall that happening.

 

[Dolphin Dave]

You were clear and I said that I would take that deal in a heartbeat. The problem is that you will find several examples of previous trades that set the market more realistically as a single second this year for our first next year.

 

[fakespike]

Which teams are even holding two 2nd rounders this year that would be your hypothetical trade partner?