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Do Not Re-Sign:
Vernon Carey (Will command too much money)
Channing Crowder (Love the guy, but will want more than he's worth)

Re-Sign:
Yeremiah Bell
Andre Goodman
Renaldo Hill (Good depth)

Free Agent Signings:
FS Oshiomogho Atogwe (Could come in and start on this secondary and contribute)
ILB Karlos Dansby (Would take over for the departing Crowder and immediately help the defense)

Draft:
1. Clint Sintim, OLB, Virginia - Great player with experience in the 3-4. Would come in and push Roth to a situational backup role (where he is probably best suited). Sintim will help in both aspects against the run and the pass. Probably would be the best prospect in what we would ask him to do in the defense.

2a. Sean Smith, CB, Utah - Tall cornerback with great athleticism. Amazing skill set and all the tools to keep the big time receivers contained. Him and Will Allen with Goodman at nickel would definitely be a solid start to the secondary.

2b. Phil Loadholt, OT, Oklahoma - Vernon Carey gone would open up a hole at the right tackle position. Loadholt is a big body and could add to an already improving offensive line. Jake Long and Phil Loadholt on the ends would provide a lot of protection and run support.

3. Antoine Caldwell, C, Alabama - A strong center that can come in and push Satele either to guard, or allow him to be depth which is something we lacked much of the year. Caldwell would be make this line even better. Long, Smiley, Caldwell, Thomas/Satele, Loadholt...seems solid to be for this year and many years to come.

4. Dorell Scott, NT, Clemson - Probably not the most popular choice, but Scott is no slouch either. Listed as 6'4", 320 lbs. Big body with solid skills. Could learn behind Fergie for a year and provide depth as well.

5. Antonio Appleby, ILB, Virginia - A big ILB, can come in and learn and won't be asked to make an immediate impact. Clint Sintim's running mate in the linebacker corps, he had 7.5 tackles for a loss this season. Could develop nicely.

7a. Patrick Turner, WR, USC - Turner developed quite nicely this year while catching 10 touchdowns. He's a big target that the Phins expected Ernest Wilford to be. Turner would be cheaper, younger and with 4 catches, would have more receptions than Wilford had this year.

7b. C.J. Spillman, S, Marshall - Spillman would be a good depth player and special teamer.

7c. Louie Sakoda, K/P, Utah - Sakoda is an amazing player at both the kicker and punter position, but he'd be a punter here as well as kickoff specialist. He's versatile and has done both very well. Has been nominated for both the Lou Groze and Ray Guy awards in his career.

UDFA: D.J. Boldin, WR, Wake Forest - Anquan's little brother. He's a strong runner and works for every yard he gets. Would come in and get a chance in my mind, wouldn't cost anything either.
 
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I like your mock; one of the better ones I've seen. It's doubtful Caldwell will fall that far. BTW, Scott is from Clemson. I still question why it's better to bring in another LB that's older than Channing to team with Akin Ayodele and not bring Dansby in WITH Channing, and have Ayodele as a backup. Akin can also play OLB, something Reggie Torbor's $2.5M salary for this coming year, wasn't so hot at in 08.

If Crowder won't accept a deal, let him walk, but I'd rather keep him and have some youth at the ILB position than purposely get older.

I really like Sintim, not questioning his abilities as a 3-4 OLB at all, but given what this regime has had at SOLB, Sintim might be a little on the smallish side - just something to keep in mind.
 
I like your mock; one of the better ones I've seen. It's doubtful Caldwell will fall that far. BTW, Scott is from Clemson.

I don't know why I thought Auburn when writing it out. Thanks for the lookout on that. The thing with Caldwell, is I can see teams selecting Mack, Unger, Luigs and MAYBE Eric Wood/A.Q. Shipley ahead of him. I'm hoping that's all true and Caldwell will fall to our laps.

I still question why it's better to bring in another LB that's older than Channing to team with Akin Ayodele and not bring Dansby in WITH Channing, and have Ayodele as a backup. Akin can also play OLB, something Reggie Torbor's $2.5M salary for this coming year, wasn't so hot at in 08.

If Crowder won't accept a deal, let him walk, but I'd rather keep him and have some youth at the ILB position than purposely get older.

That's pretty much what I've done with this. I heard reports that Crowder doesn't like what's being offered him. Not sure if that's true, but this was based off of him NOT accepting the offer. I'd love Dansby WITH Crowder, just not sure if Crowder is going to accept.

I really like Sintim, not questioning his abilities as a 3-4 OLB at all, but given what this regime has had at SOLB, Sintim might be a little on the smallish side - just something to keep in mind.

I think Sintim has an edge mostly because of the Parcells/Groh connection AND his experience in the system. It's hard to determine the DE/OLB hybrids and how well they'll do at all aspects of the position. Sintim has been at that position and done what's asked of him.

Honestly, I'm split on the first rounder big time. Sintim, Hardy, Brown...these are all players I'd love to have.
 
I don't know why I thought Auburn when writing it out. Thanks for the lookout on that. The thing with Caldwell, is I can see teams selecting Mack, Unger, Luigs and MAYBE Eric Wood/A.Q. Shipley ahead of him. I'm hoping that's all true and Caldwell will fall to our laps.



That's pretty much what I've done with this. I heard reports that Crowder doesn't like what's being offered him. Not sure if that's true, but this was based off of him NOT accepting the offer. I'd love Dansby WITH Crowder, just not sure if Crowder is going to accept.



I think Sintim has an edge mostly because of the Parcells/Groh connection AND his experience in the system. It's hard to determine the DE/OLB hybrids and how well they'll do at all aspects of the position. Sintim has been at that position and done what's asked of him.

Honestly, I'm split on the first rounder big time. Sintim, Hardy, Brown...these are all players I'd love to have.

Sadly, I think Caldwell might end up grading out higher than every center except Mack (who I think is overrated) and Unger (who I'd love to snag in round 2 if he's there). However, the C I really have my eye on is the Ravens Jason Brown - 6'3" 315-320lbs, easily bigger than every center in the draft with a better base, and has experience playing against a 3-4 NT, something Samons struggles mightily with.

As far as Sintim goes - he's primarily a SOLB. I'm currently cooking up an article about that position, but a quick survey of those around the league that play that position, the average build is 6'4" and 270lbs. Sintim measures 6'3" 254 according to UVA (he could add more weight prior to the draft obviously) but they listed Chris Long at 6'4" 275lbs last year and he checked in at 6'3" 267lbs - so they might be spiking Sintim's numbers a little.

Considering DeMarcus Ware was their weakside LB of choice, coming in at 6'4" 261 lbs. and the fact Parcells wanted Merriman at 6'4" 272lbs. makes me think we'll go after someone bigger than Sintim as a SOLB prospect. After all in Dallas, the current starter Greg Ellis runs 6'6" 277lbs, and his eventual replacement Anthony Spencer goes 6'3" 266lbs.

Obviously Parcells and Groh have the connection, but I wonder if they'd rather try to get someone bigger, as seen with conversion attempts of Holliday and Merling before settling on Roth. I still think Phillip Merling, if he can get back to that 275lbs range he was at in college, might be who they have been eyeing for that role all along.

I like Sintim, Hardy, and Brown in that order, I just think they might all be drafted as Joey Porter's replacement. It was pretty apparent to me that JP wore down as the season went on pretty much because we had no other pressure opposite him coming from the likes of Roth, Anderson, and Moses. Just my two cents.

And to think, what moves they might try and make if they can squeeze draft picks out of guys like Satele, Roth, Beck, etc. My dream would be do trade up and get Malcolm Jenkins (very unlikely I'll be the first to admit that) but I think they've got to have an ace up their collective sleeve.
 
i would love boldins younger brother and then trade for A. Boldin that would be awesome
 
Sadly, I think Caldwell might end up grading out higher than every center except Mack (who I think is overrated) and Unger (who I'd love to snag in round 2 if he's there). However, the C I really have my eye on is the Ravens Jason Brown - 6'3" 315-320lbs, easily bigger than every center in the draft with a better base, and has experience playing against a 3-4 NT, something Samons struggles mightily with.

As far as Sintim goes - he's primarily a SOLB. I'm currently cooking up an article about that position, but a quick survey of those around the league that play that position, the average build is 6'4" and 270lbs. Sintim measures 6'3" 254 according to UVA (he could add more weight prior to the draft obviously) but they listed Chris Long at 6'4" 275lbs last year and he checked in at 6'3" 267lbs - so they might be spiking Sintim's numbers a little.

Considering DeMarcus Ware was their weakside LB of choice, coming in at 6'4" 261 lbs. and the fact Parcells wanted Merriman at 6'4" 272lbs. makes me think we'll go after someone bigger than Sintim as a SOLB prospect. After all in Dallas, the current starter Greg Ellis runs 6'6" 277lbs, and his eventual replacement Anthony Spencer goes 6'3" 266lbs.

Obviously Parcells and Groh have the connection, but I wonder if they'd rather try to get someone bigger, as seen with conversion attempts of Holliday and Merling before settling on Roth. I still think Phillip Merling, if he can get back to that 275lbs range he was at in college, might be who they have been eyeing for that role all along.

I like Sintim, Hardy, and Brown in that order, I just think they might all be drafted as Joey Porter's replacement. It was pretty apparent to me that JP wore down as the season went on pretty much because we had no other pressure opposite him coming from the likes of Roth, Anderson, and Moses. Just my two cents.

And to think, what moves they might try and make if they can squeeze draft picks out of guys like Satele, Roth, Beck, etc. My dream would be do trade up and get Malcolm Jenkins (very unlikely I'll be the first to admit that) but I think they've got to have an ace up their collective sleeve.

I can pretty much agree with a few things you said.

Caldwell is a beast of a center, and if he were available to us, I'd love to get him. I'm not too fond of Mack, but would be ok in the 2nd. Unger and Caldwell are my choices.

That's where I was torn at. I love Sintim and the way he plays, but I think our first rounder can go plenty of ways. If we have that guy on our team already (Merling), I feel we'd be in even better position with this draft and can see maybe Chris Canty come in.

You're dead on with Malcolm Jenkins. He'd be an AMAZING addition, but Parcell's love for draft picks and building through the draft, I don't see the trade up happening unless we had a player to go with the 1st rather than extra picks.

As far as Porter goes, that was pretty much the problem and I pointed it out in another thread earlier. You look at DeMarcus Ware who had 20 sacks on the season. Three of his teammates added 8 each to the defense. As with Porter who led our team with 17.5, the next highest was Roth with 5, then Holliday with 3.5 and Nathan Jones with 3. Besides Porter, there wasn't much attack on the quarterback. I admit Crowder had some great blitzes at times, but he was there just barely too late.

This draft is going to change many times though lol. This is just my base for now.
 
I can pretty much agree with a few things you said.

Caldwell is a beast of a center, and if he were available to us, I'd love to get him. I'm not too fond of Mack, but would be ok in the 2nd. Unger and Caldwell are my choices.

That's where I was torn at. I love Sintim and the way he plays, but I think our first rounder can go plenty of ways. If we have that guy on our team already (Merling), I feel we'd be in even better position with this draft and can see maybe Chris Canty come in.

You're dead on with Malcolm Jenkins. He'd be an AMAZING addition, but Parcell's love for draft picks and building through the draft, I don't see the trade up happening unless we had a player to go with the 1st rather than extra picks.

As far as Porter goes, that was pretty much the problem and I pointed it out in another thread earlier. You look at DeMarcus Ware who had 20 sacks on the season. Three of his teammates added 8 each to the defense. As with Porter who led our team with 17.5, the next highest was Roth with 5, then Holliday with 3.5 and Nathan Jones with 3. Besides Porter, there wasn't much attack on the quarterback. I admit Crowder had some great blitzes at times, but he was there just barely too late.

This draft is going to change many times though lol. This is just my base for now.

Agreed. One of our boys, Greg Hardy, is expected to declare at some point today or tonight - he could be a potential 1st round pickup. A small part of me could also so NT B.J. Raji tabbed as our first round pick.

As for Chris Canty, I'd have to assume he's on the radar front and center if Dallas doesn't do anything to keep him, especially with the $7.5M cap number Vonnie Holliday has in 2009.

Even if Merling turns out to be that guy, I'm hoping he might, I still think this regime will use the double-barrell approach and draft someone else who could play that SOLB position, just maybe not as high.

Pannel Egboh (very similar to Dallas' Greg Ellis) is a 3rd or 4th round pick, as is Kirston Pittman of LSU, and maybe even Philip Hunt of Houston.

I think it's imperative to address the positions of NT, C, OLB, and S via free agency and/or the draft.

My second tier of needs would be WR, ILB, and G.
 
I would absolutely love getting Patrick Turner in the seventh. He was the top WR prospect coming out of high school and his lack of production may just be a result of USC being loaded with top prospects and not being able to get them all playing time. At the worst he would be a seventh rounder that didn't make the team.
 
1. Clint Sintim, OLB, Virginia - Great player with experience in the 3-4. Would come in and push Roth to a situational backup role (where he is probably best suited). Sintim will help in both aspects against the run and the pass. Probably would be the best prospect in what we would ask him to do in the defense.

2a. Sean Smith, CB, Utah - Tall cornerback with great athleticism. Amazing skill set and all the tools to keep the big time receivers contained. Him and Will Allen with Goodman at nickel would definitely be a solid start to the secondary.

2b. Phil Loadholt, OT, Oklahoma - Vernon Carey gone would open up a hole at the right tackle position. Loadholt is a big body and could add to an already improving offensive line. Jake Long and Phil Loadholt on the ends would provide a lot of protection and run support.

3. Antoine Caldwell, C, Alabama - A strong center that can come in and push Satele either to guard, or allow him to be depth which is something we lacked much of the year. Caldwell would be make this line even better. Long, Smiley, Caldwell, Thomas/Satele, Loadholt...seems solid to be for this year and many years to come.

4. Dorell Scott, NT, Clemson - Probably not the most popular choice, but Scott is no slouch either. Listed as 6'4", 320 lbs. Big body with solid skills. Could learn behind Fergie for a year and provide depth as well.

5. Antonio Appleby, ILB, Virginia - A big ILB, can come in and learn and won't be asked to make an immediate impact. Clint Sintim's running mate in the linebacker corps, he had 7.5 tackles for a loss this season. Could develop nicely.

7a. Patrick Turner, WR, USC - Turner developed quite nicely this year while catching 10 touchdowns. He's a big target that the Phins expected Ernest Wilford to be. Turner would be cheaper, younger and with 4 catches, would have more receptions than Wilford had this year.

7b. C.J. Spillman, S, Marshall - Spillman would be a good depth player and special teamer.

7c. Louie Sakoda, K/P, Utah - Sakoda is an amazing player at both the kicker and punter position, but he'd be a punter here as well as kickoff specialist. He's versatile and has done both very well. Has been nominated for both the Lou Groze and Ray Guy awards in his career.

UDFA: D.J. Boldin, WR, Wake Forest - Anquan's little brother. He's a strong runner and works for every yard he gets. Would come in and get a chance in my mind, wouldn't cost anything either.

Definately one of the better mock drafts I've seen on here. The only one I disagree with is the pick of Sakoda. Sakoda is a great P/K but I think that pick could be better spent elsewhere. Perhaps a CB, like Jackie Bates out of Hampton, or a FB like Tony Fiammetta out of Syracuse. Also, I love the fact that you put in D.J. Boldin as a UDFA. I'm a huge D.J. Boldin fan. If we could get D.J. as a UDFA, it would be another "Davone Bess" type of steal.
 
why is DJ Considered so low, ive watched him play only a couple times but was impressed. i figured he wouldnt be the fastest, but is he really that slow that he wont even get drafted?
 
I like it for the most part if everything went that way I would be fine with it. I would like to keep Crowder, but like what was said earlier in this post he is going to want way to much.
 
[QUOTEMy dream would be do trade up and get Malcolm Jenkins ][/QUOTE]

I was listening to Sirus radio and they said they were talking to Jenkins and Laurunitis about the Senior Bowl after the Fiesta Bowl. They both said their not going because Tressel told them it wouldn't help them at all. Pat Kirwin told them their mistaken and they need to be there or it could end up hurting their stock.
Do you agree with that statement or do you think the Combine is the more important one to be at?
 
[QUOTEMy dream would be do trade up and get Malcolm Jenkins ]

I was listening to Sirus radio and they said they were talking to Jenkins and Laurunitis about the Senior Bowl after the Fiesta Bowl. They both said their not going because Tressel told them it wouldn't help them at all. Pat Kirwin told them their mistaken and they need to be there or it could end up hurting their stock.
Do you agree with that statement or do you think the Combine is the more important one to be at?[/QUOTE]

it depends on the player. Jenkins will probably be the first CB taken whether he goes to the Senior Bowl or not, but Little Animal should go. Aaron Curry, Rey Mauluga, and Brian Cushing have all jumped him on boards and with the 3-4 coming back Clint Sintim probably has as well. Animal is also a decent athlete, but not a great one so unless he's the workout warrior former Buckeyes Vernon Gholston and Mike Kuddla(who didn't get drafted despite a monster workout) are the combine won't help enough since guys like Curry,Rey REy, and CUshing will have amazing combines. Sintim will probably have a huge combine. And then guys like Clay Matthews and Gerald McRaff (very good jr out of Southern Miss) are expected to shoot up boards after their combines. Animal needs to go to the Senior Bowl

Jenkins probably should go atleast for the interviews. None of the senior CBs will be drafted before him, and the only junior that has a chance is probably Vontae Davis, who some have soured on after a lackluster season.

In short Jenkins=doesn't matter Little Animal=Should go.
 
[QUOTEMy dream would be do trade up and get Malcolm Jenkins ]

I was listening to Sirus radio and they said they were talking to Jenkins and Laurunitis about the Senior Bowl after the Fiesta Bowl. They both said their not going because Tressel told them it wouldn't help them at all. Pat Kirwin told them their mistaken and they need to be there or it could end up hurting their stock.
Do you agree with that statement or do you think the Combine is the more important one to be at?[/quote]

I don't think it could hurt Malcolm Jenkins by skipping it. I think he's by far and away solidified the #1 CB spot in this draft.

I do think it would hurt Laurinaitis. Some of his flaws, which are pretty prevelant if you've watched enough Ohio State football, which sadly I have, and I think those would be exposed in that type of environment.
 
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