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To give you some context on this Chargers defense, we all know or should know by now the Lions's defense is absolutely abysmal. Chargers are one notch below that. And now they're missing key guys, it'll probably get to Lions level of bad.

Lions are worst, giving up 27 ppg
Chargers are 3rd worse giving up 26 ppg
Chargers give up 151 rushing yards pg - 4th worst (that's A LOT of yards)

I seriously predict Tua is going for 400 yards 4 TDs on primetime. I'm dead serious. This defense BLOWS
Either that or Mostert/Wilson are each rushing for 100 yards. and Tua throws for 250 and 2 TDs.


After doing some more research, it's crazy just how good the 49ers defense really is. Chargers are almost the complete opposite
Chargers are last in rushing yards per attempt at 5.4 rushing yards per attempt. That's really, really bad (49ers are first at 3.4 ypa)
Chargers are near the bottom of the league at 7 pass yards per attempt.
They're one of the worst when it comes to passing TDs given-up.
1/3rd of their INT production came from Bryce Calahan who will be OUT tmrw.


SECONDARY:
Best Safety in the league IMO not named Jevon Holland ;) --- Derwin James is DOUBTFUL! That's huge
Staring Nickel - Bryce Callahan - DOUBTFUL (Again, accounted for 1/3 of the team's total INTs)
Callahan's backup is (most likely) Ja'Sir Taylor - ROOKIE 6th round pick - 5'10 185 lbs - Dude's barely played a snap all year

Imagine your first start as a 6th round rookie is against Hill/Waddle in the slot - Game over

DL:
3-4 DE Sebastian Joseph-Day - DOUBTFUL
That DE position is crazy.. All 3 RDE's are all out (They have a total of 5 (!!) 3-4 D-linemen OUT for this game)--- meaning they have 4 active D-linemen in a 3-4 defense. Those guys take absolute punishment in the trenches

RUN THE DAMN BALL McDaniel!

LB:
Joey Bosa - IR - OUT
Khalil Ingram - BEAST lol will be playing
Kyle Van Noy - Starter - has fallen off a cliff. He's terrible. Not sure why they have him as an ILB. He's an edge guy

OT:
RT Trey Pipkins - DOUBTFUL
LT Rashawn Slater - IR (one of the best in the game)
Slater's replacement, Jamaree Salyer, is a 6th round rookie CONVERTED GUARD

Our DL should FEAST

If Armstead plays, Tua will have ALL DAMN DAY in the pocket.

Contain Khlalil Mack, and this team wins
Herbert will get his, he has really good receivers, but he'll make his typical boneheaded plays. Our run D should contain Ekeler somewhat.

Tua will outplay Herbert and it will finally be settled once and for all.. Tua >>> Herbert and shut up the critics
Tua should FEAST in this one.

Two things that scare me..

-Herbert's escapability. Our defense struggles mightily with athletic QBs. I can see Herbert having a career-rushing day. He will be running for his life behind that beat up OL
-Dolphins secondary CANNOT give up the deep ball. Play bend-dont-break defense. Give up the underneath stuff and wait for Herbert to screw up like he usually does.
-FGs are going to be huge wins for this defense as I see our offense scoring 28+ so a 28-23 game is what I'm feeling.

Thoughts?
 
mandal24 said:
To give you some context on this Chargers defense, we all know or should know by now the Lions's defense is absolutely abysmal. Chargers are one notch below that. And now they're missing key guys, it'll probably get to Lions level of bad.

Lions are worst, giving up 27 ppg
Chargers are 3rd worse giving up 26 ppg
Chargers give up 151 rushing yards pg - 4th worst (that's A LOT of yards)

I seriously predict Tua is going for 400 yards 4 TDs on primetime. I'm dead serious. This defense BLOWS
Either that or Mostert/Wilson are each rushing for 100 yards. and Tua throws for 250 and 2 TDs.


After doing some more research, it's crazy just how good the 49ers defense really is. Chargers are almost the complete opposite
Chargers are last in rushing yards per attempt at 5.4 rushing yards per attempt. That's really, really bad (49ers are first at 3.4 ypa)
Chargers are near the bottom of the league at 7 pass yards per attempt.
They're one of the worst when it comes to passing TDs given-up.
1/3rd of their INT production came from Bryce Calahan who will be OUT tmrw.


SECONDARY:
Best Safety in the league IMO not named Jevon Holland ;) --- Derwin James is DOUBTFUL! That's huge
Staring Nickel - Bryce Callahan - DOUBTFUL (Again, accounted for 1/3 of the team's total INTs)
Callahan's backup is (most likely) Ja'Sir Taylor - ROOKIE 6th round pick - 5'10 185 lbs - Dude's barely played a snap all year

Imagine your first start as a 6th round rookie is against Hill/Waddle in the slot - Game over

DL:
3-4 DE Sebastian Joseph-Day - DOUBTFUL
That DE position is crazy.. All 3 RDE's are all out (They have a total of 5 (!!) 3-4 D-linemen OUT for this game)--- meaning they have 4 active D-linemen in a 3-4 defense. Those guys take absolute punishment in the trenches

RUN THE DAMN BALL McDaniel!

LB:
Joey Bosa - IR - OUT
Khalil Ingram - BEAST lol will be playing
Kyle Van Noy - Starter - has fallen off a cliff. He's terrible. Not sure why they have him as an ILB. He's an edge guy

OT:
RT Trey Pipkins - DOUBTFUL
LT Rashawn Slater - IR (one of the best in the game)
Slater's replacement, Jamaree Salyer, is a 6th round rookie CONVERTED GUARD

Our DL should FEAST

If Armstead plays, Tua will have ALL DAMN DAY in the pocket.

Contain Khlalil Mack, and this team wins
Herbert will get his, he has really good receivers, but he'll make his typical boneheaded plays. Our run D should contain Ekeler somewhat.

Tua will outplay Herbert and it will finally be settled once and for all.. Tua >>> Herbert and shut up the critics
Tua should FEAST in this one.

Two things that scare me..

-Herbert's escapability. Our defense struggles mightily with athletic QBs. I can see Herbert having a career-rushing day. He will be running for his life behind that beat up OL
-Dolphins secondary CANNOT give up the deep ball. Play bend-dont-break defense. Give up the underneath stuff and wait for Herbert to screw up like he usually does.
-FGs are going to be huge wins for this defense as I see our offense scoring 28+ so a 28-23 game is what I'm feeling.

Thoughts?
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This will be a very close game. Hoping our d can create turnovers.
 
This is one of those games that seems too good to be true. A team that has numours injuries and a suspect defense. On the down side, its another west coast road game, inspite of Miami staying out west to practice. Miami also has a suspect defense that struggles on the road.

If Tua plays his game, Miami should win. But if he struggles like he did vs the 49ers, it's very possible Miami loses this game. I didn't think Miami would beat a strong 49ers team, but am a bit more optimistic Miami wins against the Chargers. Hopefully I'm right.
 
The player to shut down is Austin Ekeler. He consistently gets them out of trouble and keeps them competitive. He's not a big sexy RB like Derrick Henry, but he's tougher than expected, gets a lot of check downs and makes plays, (sometimes out of nothing).
 
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Pitbull13 said:
This will be a very close game. Hoping our d can create turnovers.
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I don't think it will be close. Our offense is light years better, and even with our struggles on the other side of the ball, our D is substantially better, as well.

If it's close, we didn't play well, and they will have been punching above their weight class.
 
mandal24 said:
To give you some context on this Chargers defense, we all know or should know by now the Lions's defense is absolutely abysmal. Chargers are one notch below that. And now they're missing key guys, it'll probably get to Lions level of bad.

Lions are worst, giving up 27 ppg
Chargers are 3rd worse giving up 26 ppg
Chargers give up 151 rushing yards pg - 4th worst (that's A LOT of yards)

I seriously predict Tua is going for 400 yards 4 TDs on primetime. I'm dead serious. This defense BLOWS
Either that or Mostert/Wilson are each rushing for 100 yards. and Tua throws for 250 and 2 TDs.


After doing some more research, it's crazy just how good the 49ers defense really is. Chargers are almost the complete opposite
Chargers are last in rushing yards per attempt at 5.4 rushing yards per attempt. That's really, really bad (49ers are first at 3.4 ypa)
Chargers are near the bottom of the league at 7 pass yards per attempt.
They're one of the worst when it comes to passing TDs given-up.
1/3rd of their INT production came from Bryce Calahan who will be OUT tmrw.


SECONDARY:
Best Safety in the league IMO not named Jevon Holland ;) --- Derwin James is DOUBTFUL! That's huge
Staring Nickel - Bryce Callahan - DOUBTFUL (Again, accounted for 1/3 of the team's total INTs)
Callahan's backup is (most likely) Ja'Sir Taylor - ROOKIE 6th round pick - 5'10 185 lbs - Dude's barely played a snap all year

Imagine your first start as a 6th round rookie is against Hill/Waddle in the slot - Game over

DL:
3-4 DE Sebastian Joseph-Day - DOUBTFUL
That DE position is crazy.. All 3 RDE's are all out (They have a total of 5 (!!) 3-4 D-linemen OUT for this game)--- meaning they have 4 active D-linemen in a 3-4 defense. Those guys take absolute punishment in the trenches

RUN THE DAMN BALL McDaniel!

LB:
Joey Bosa - IR - OUT
Khalil Ingram - BEAST lol will be playing
Kyle Van Noy - Starter - has fallen off a cliff. He's terrible. Not sure why they have him as an ILB. He's an edge guy

OT:
RT Trey Pipkins - DOUBTFUL
LT Rashawn Slater - IR (one of the best in the game)
Slater's replacement, Jamaree Salyer, is a 6th round rookie CONVERTED GUARD

Our DL should FEAST

If Armstead plays, Tua will have ALL DAMN DAY in the pocket.

Contain Khlalil Mack, and this team wins
Herbert will get his, he has really good receivers, but he'll make his typical boneheaded plays. Our run D should contain Ekeler somewhat.

Tua will outplay Herbert and it will finally be settled once and for all.. Tua >>> Herbert and shut up the critics
Tua should FEAST in this one.

Two things that scare me..

-Herbert's escapability. Our defense struggles mightily with athletic QBs. I can see Herbert having a career-rushing day. He will be running for his life behind that beat up OL
-Dolphins secondary CANNOT give up the deep ball. Play bend-dont-break defense. Give up the underneath stuff and wait for Herbert to screw up like he usually does.
-FGs are going to be huge wins for this defense as I see our offense scoring 28+ so a 28-23 game is what I'm feeling.

Thoughts?
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Didn't realize how bad the Chargers Def was.

Thanks for posting
 
dolfan91 said:
This is one of those games that seems too good to be true. A team that has numours injuries and a suspect defense. On the down side, its another west coast road game, inspite of Miami staying out west to practice. Miami also has a suspect defense that struggles on the road.

If Tua plays his game, Miami should win. But if he struggles like he did vs the 49ers, it's very possible Miami loses this game. I didn't think Miami would beat a strong 49ers team, but am a bit more optimistic Miami wins against the Chargers. Hopefully I'm right.
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IMO, if Tua had connected on half of his misses during the first two quarters, Miami would have had a larger lead and probably could have won that game, even with a suspect defense.
 
dolphinkev said:
Looks Like Mike Williams is going to Play Tomorrow and he is a Hard Cover with Size and Speed , If he catches a Pass Remember to Give an Extra Twist on The Ankle.;)
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Will be a long day trying to contain Allen and Williams if Herbert has time. Nice to know the Chargers D is terrible. Tua should light it up.
 
Specific to the Chargers - wrap up Ekeler! No turning short passes into long gains! Not specific to the Chargers, but us - finish drives !! Turn yards into points ! Poignant stat - despite an offense light years better at moving the ball, and so much better qb play - our points per game this year (24.9) is not better than Lazor’s 2014 offense (24.3) or Gailey ‘s 2020 O (25.3) !!? Convert 4th and short, don’t miss Fg’s, and no killer penalties in charger territory!
 
the only thing I worry worry about is Herbert’s escapability out of the pocket. He excels throwing on the run. He can and almost every other QB can dissect our D playing like that
 
EasyRider said:
the only thing I worry worry about is Herbert’s escapability out of the pocket. He excels throwing on the run. He can and almost every other QB can dissect our D playing like that
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All we have to do is knock Herbert out of the game early, then the backup comes in and we can just ..... oh wait, nevermind.
 
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