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A lot of teams are saying a lot of things this time of year. 50% you can believe, 50% is smoke and mirrors.

Myles Jack is miscast as a Mike. He should be great as a weakside backer in a 4-3, or inside backer in a 3-4. Otherwise you're are not utilizing him to his strengths and at Mike you'd be exposing his few weaknesses.

I know I have had several posts giving my opinion that he wouldn't provide the best value for us on the weakside b/c we have other pressing needs on D, but I would be more than happy to have him on board at Will. Just think VH3, if available, is not only a better choice but provides better value as well.
 
He's such an interesting prospect. If he's there at #8, I wonder if the Dolphins might consider transitioning to a 3-4. I could see Jack inside in a 3-4.

I know it's been discussed quite a bit here, but one thing that does favor a 3-4 is the ability to find pass rushers. There always seem to be more 3-4 pass rushers than 4-3 fits. Anyway, a little off target but just trying to see what the team might think if Jack is available.
 
Fully expect Miami to be one of those teams. Not long term, but in 2016. Jenkins/Jack//Misi
 
Sons of Shula said:
A lot of teams are saying a lot of things this time of year. 50% you can believe, 50% is smoke and mirrors.

Myles Jack is miscast as a Mike. He should be great as a weakside backer in a 4-3, or inside backer in a 3-4. Otherwise you're are not utilizing him to his strengths and at Mike you'd be exposing his few weaknesses.

I know I have had several posts giving my opinion that he wouldn't provide the best value for us on the weakside b/c we have other pressing needs on D, but I would be more than happy to have him on board at Will. Just think VH3, if available, is not only a better choice but provides better value as well.
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Lmao a miscast at Mike. Bro have a seat.
 
Take away is that Jack will never be taken off the field.
 
correct me if I'm wrong but didn't bowman play an undersized de in college? I seem to recall that...and correct me again if I'm wrong but wasn't bowman the wilb in the 9ers scheme and Patrick willis the thumper silb?

when I see scheme versatility in jack (which means every team will have interest it's as a wilb in a 34 and wolb in a 43...)

we'll see in the end who he gets drafted by and as what...the last thing you want to do is limit that athlete and cover player to a controlled box and no he doesn't have Patrick willis level inside read and diag coming out of college so let's not go there either

also no lb is gonna limit himself to any scheme during pre draft media talk...they don't want in any way to limit their options...joey bosa keeps saying he can play a 34 olb but that doesn't mean his best fit isn't as a 43 de
 
Kdawg954 said:
Fully expect Miami to be one of those teams. Not long term, but in 2016. Jenkins/Jack//Misi
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that's possible cause this team blows at lbs and correct fits even...but I bet ya if it does happen it's a one and doner if we stick with a 43 in 2017
 
Versatility is never a bad thing. I think he's a player you can move around and have some fun with. Hard to say he can't play mike because there's not exactly a lot of film on it, but I don't see a noticeable problem there. Just hope him or Hargreaves are there
 
wish we would get him. i dont think there is any way we can get him
 
If we were going to move a guy to not an ideal position, I think I might rather move Jenkins inside instead of Jack. Jack is a stud WLB. Its not our biggest need but when you are so many players away, we are better to take the most talented and best chance of being special than anything else.
 
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correct me if I'm wrong but didn't bowman play an undersized de in college? I seem to recall that...and correct me again if I'm wrong but wasn't bowman the wilb in the 9ers scheme and Patrick willis the thumper silb?

when I see scheme versatility in jack (which means every team will have interest it's as a wilb in a 34 and wolb in a 43...)

we'll see in the end who he gets drafted by and as what...the last thing you want to do is limit that athlete and cover player to a controlled box and no he doesn't have Patrick willis level inside read and diag coming out of college so let's not go there either

also no lb is gonna limit himself to any scheme during pre draft media talk...they don't want in any way to limit their options...joey bosa keeps saying he can play a 34 olb but that doesn't mean his best fit isn't as a 43 de
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He Doesn't need Willis presnap diag in college to transition to Mike at the NFL level, the fact is at the college level Jack is much more physical vs the run, is much better at taking on and beating blocks from OL and is a much better thumper than Willis was at the college level, he completely plays downhill stacking the line like an extra lineman. I'm also surprised that someone with your knowledge of NFL schemes would say Jack is simply a Will without taking into Defensive schemes into account because the role of a MLB can be very different depending on the type of scheme your running in a Tampa 2 type of defense like Chicago use to run with Brian Urlacher the ability to drop down the middle of field and act like a third safety is one the most important skills in that type of defense and in a defense where the lineman use a wide 9 type of scheme meaning having very wide splits you need a downhill thumper at Mike. So u have to understand that scheme is very important when talking about who can play Mike.
 
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He Doesn't need Willis presnap diag in college to transition to Mike at the NFL level, the fact is at the college level Jack is much more physical vs the run, is much better at taking on and beating blocks from OL and is a much better thumper than Willis was at the college level, he completely plays downhill stacking the line like an extra lineman. I'm also surprised that someone with your knowledge of NFL schemes would say Jack is simply a Will without taking into Defensive schemes into account because the role of a MLB can be very different depending on the type of scheme your running in a Tampa 2 type of defense like Chicago use to run with Brian Urlacher the ability to drop down the middle of field and act like a third safety is one the most important skills in that type of defense and in a defense where the lineman use a wide 9 type of scheme meaning having very wide splits you need a downhill thumper at Mike. So u have to understand that scheme is very important when talking about who can play Mike.
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I get that...but unless miami is changing the scheme up in a massive way under joseph i dont see it...and i dont see tampa 2 coming here with our current personnel... Misi restructure also says to me we arent looking to reinvent the wheel on d with regards to position assignments and responsibilities...and we will agree to disagree about a better thumper than willis coming out

Now i guess what i should make clear is i look at things from miamis stand point...but i still dont think a thumper role is the best fit for that kid in any scheme really...although i will say the fact that he carries 245 so well doesnt just lend itself to will it plays more to the 34 wilb role...oh and furthermore brian urlacher was awfully tall which aided with that middle drop and jack is 6 foot 1 which again plays more to a will or weakside in terms of prototype

Urlacher wasnt the most instinctual ilb more athlete than instincts inside so in that regard in that scheme ok i can see it but i think he was also 6 foot 5
 
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hooshoops said:
correct me if I'm wrong but didn't bowman play an undersized de in college? I seem to recall that...and correct me again if I'm wrong but wasn't bowman the wilb in the 9ers scheme and Patrick willis the thumper silb?

when I see scheme versatility in jack (which means every team will have interest it's as a wilb in a 34 and wolb in a 43...)

we'll see in the end who he gets drafted by and as what...the last thing you want to do is limit that athlete and cover player to a controlled box and no he doesn't have Patrick willis level inside read and diag coming out of college so let's not go there either

also no lb is gonna limit himself to any scheme during pre draft media talk...they don't want in any way to limit their options...joey bosa keeps saying he can play a 34 olb but that doesn't mean his best fit isn't as a 43 de
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