Mystery of Dolphins Rushing Stats

[Perfect72]

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/...s-rushing-stats-20141203-story.html?track=rss

David Hyde - Sun Sentinel

2. The Dolphins rushing game is a riddle of the Sphinx. They are one of the best rushing teams in the league for the first 10 carries of a game. They’re a mediocre rushing team from carry 11 through 20. And they grow worse from any carry over No. 21 in a game.

Why?
Maybe Bill Lazor’s game plan is such they surprise teams at the start. Maybe it explains why Lamar Miller is getting limited carries – his effectiveness decreases quickly. Or maybe this shows what the loss of Knowshon Moreno meant considering there’s no quality second back.

Let’s look at this. The running game has been effective for the Dolphins. They rank 10[SUP]th[/SUP] in the league with 120.3 yards rushing a game. They’re fifth in the league with a 4.6-yard average per carry. They’re tied for seventh in the league with 40 runs of 10 yards or more.

All that points to a running game that’s surprisingly effective considering an offensive line that had new starters and then has suffered injury. But look at these numbers from Stats Inc. that speak of dwindling effectiveness as the game moves on:

On carries one through 10, they average 4.8 yards per carry (third in the league).
On carries 11 through 20, they average 3.8 yards per carry (tied for 18[SUP]th[/SUP]).
After the 20[SUP]th[/SUP] carry, they average 2.3 yards a carry (ranked 20[SUP]th[/SUP]).

These numbers, of course, don't go the way you'd expect. They help explain why the Dolphins have trouble when ahead in the fourth quarter. They can’t run out the clock in the manner the best teams can.
Look at the top teams. Green Bay ranks tied for 12[SUP]th[/SUP] on carries 1-10 with a 4.3-yard average; drops to 23[SUP]rd[/SUP] in carries 11-20 with a 3.6-yard average; but jumps to fourth from carry No. 21 to the end with a 5.2-yard average when it is running out the clock.

Denver is 23[SUP]rd[/SUP] in carries 1-10 (3.8-yard average); fifth in carries in 11-20 (4.8); and fifth in the 21[SUP]st[/SUP] carry and above (4.6)

New England 19[SUP]th[/SUP] in carries 1-10 (3.6); 24[SUP]th[/SUP] in 11-20 (3.5); 11[SUP]th[/SUP] in carries above 21 (4.1).

 

[Good_Dylan]

The next riddle to solve will be the Mystery of the Defense that disappears when you need them. They play lights out until the last opponent possession and they need to score and then get weak & porous just in time to cost us the game.

 

[datruth55]

Well when we're trying to run out the clock the other team knows it and they stack the line...makes it tougher to run but clearly good teams can run effectively even when the other team knows it. I think it shows that the O-line still needs work...not a surprise.

 

[Sherif]

It's no riddle any dingbat would see with the leads we've had in our wins, we just rush the ball against 8 and 9 man fronts to kill the clock after about the 10th rush.

I wish he would have given us the number of rushes per game. I believe even if you include Tannehill, it's still below 23. Our percentage of pass to run is probably in the top 10. Philbin loses games he should win (KC, Buffalo) because he doesn't run a balanced offense.

 

[gofins60]

Philbin loses games he should win (KC, Buffalo) because he doesn't run a balanced offense.

I don't know why anyone would want to keep a coach who just won't run the ball... even when it's effective. Miami has the most one-dimensional offense I've ever seen: a handful of rushes, a handful of 10-20 yard passes, and tons of short 0-10 yard passes.

 

[Sherif]

I just looked it up, Miami is 20th in rushing attempts per game. The Raiders are 32nd in rushing attempts per game, and the Ravens are 8th in Rushing attempts per game.

 

[datruth55]

It's no riddle any dingbat would see with the leads we've had in our wins, we just rush the ball against 8 and 9 man fronts to kill the clock after about the 10th rush.

I wish he would have given us the number of rushes per game. I believe even if you include Tannehill, it's still below 23. Our percentage of pass to run is probably in the top 10. Philbin loses games he should win (KC, Buffalo) because he doesn't run a balanced offense.

Philbin? I thought Lazor was the OC.

 

[Sherif]

Philbin? I thought Lazor was the OC.

2014 mirrors 2013 in the rush to pass ratio. Philbin dictates the game plan.

Miami has the most one-dimensional offense I've ever seen: a handful of rushes, a handful of 10-20 yard passes, and tons of short 0-10 yard passes.

I believe that's what you're going to get with Philbin. Luckily so far, for the most part, the short passes have been successful. We did see a breakdown in the offense against the Jets and Tannehill wasn't that sharp so we'll need an effective running game going forward this season. I see us 2-2 if we can't run or stop the run going forward this year.

 

[datruth55]

2014 mirrors 2013 in the rush to pass ratio. Philbin dictates the game plan.

Well then, I guess we should all thank Philbin for increasing the teams scoring per game by 5 points. He deserves credit for our improved offense. Good job Philbin.

 

[phishxhead]

How much are those rushing stats being padded by RT?

 

[Al13]

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/...s-rushing-stats-20141203-story.html?track=rss

David Hyde - Sun Sentinel

2. The Dolphins rushing game is a riddle of the Sphinx. They are one of the best rushing teams in the league for the first 10 carries of a game. They’re a mediocre rushing team from carry 11 through 20. And they grow worse from any carry over No. 21 in a game.

Why?
Maybe Bill Lazor’s game plan is such they surprise teams at the start. Maybe it explains why Lamar Miller is getting limited carries – his effectiveness decreases quickly. Or maybe this shows what the loss of Knowshon Moreno meant considering there’s no quality second back.

Let’s look at this. The running game has been effective for the Dolphins. They rank 10[SUP]th[/SUP] in the league with 120.3 yards rushing a game. They’re fifth in the league with a 4.6-yard average per carry. They’re tied for seventh in the league with 40 runs of 10 yards or more.

All that points to a running game that’s surprisingly effective considering an offensive line that had new starters and then has suffered injury. But look at these numbers from Stats Inc. that speak of dwindling effectiveness as the game moves on:

On carries one through 10, they average 4.8 yards per carry (third in the league).
On carries 11 through 20, they average 3.8 yards per carry (tied for 18[SUP]th[/SUP]).
After the 20[SUP]th[/SUP] carry, they average 2.3 yards a carry (ranked 20[SUP]th[/SUP]).

These numbers, of course, don't go the way you'd expect. They help explain why the Dolphins have trouble when ahead in the fourth quarter. They can’t run out the clock in the manner the best teams can.
Look at the top teams. Green Bay ranks tied for 12[SUP]th[/SUP] on carries 1-10 with a 4.3-yard average; drops to 23[SUP]rd[/SUP] in carries 11-20 with a 3.6-yard average; but jumps to fourth from carry No. 21 to the end with a 5.2-yard average when it is running out the clock.

Denver is 23[SUP]rd[/SUP] in carries 1-10 (3.8-yard average); fifth in carries in 11-20 (4.8); and fifth in the 21[SUP]st[/SUP] carry and above (4.6)

New England 19[SUP]th[/SUP] in carries 1-10 (3.6); 24[SUP]th[/SUP] in 11-20 (3.5); 11[SUP]th[/SUP] in carries above 21 (4.1).

first of all lets remember the last 4 games we played the #1,#2,#3,#7 and now the #4 rushing defense with ngata in all of football, it also shows we need to have a big back carry the rock in the 4th, moreno would be huge right now

 

[J. David Wannyheimer]

We only run the ball when we're up 37 points and crashing the line. That's probably why.

We were balanced vs New England and we've quickly gone away from it.

 

[datruth55]

We only run the ball when we're up 37 points and crashing the line. That's probably why.

We were balanced vs New England and we've quickly gone away from it.

That's when we had a healthy Moreno. As I've said in other posts I don't think Lazor thinks very much of Miller because Miller has only had more than 15 carries once this season. Even when Miller is running the ball well they just don't give it to him. In Moreno's one full game he had 24 carries...Miller's highest carries this season is 18 in one game. I really don't think Lazor thinks Miller is good enough.

 

[So Be]

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/...s-rushing-stats-20141203-story.html?track=rss

David Hyde - Sun Sentinel

2. The Dolphins rushing game is a riddle of the Sphinx. They are one of the best rushing teams in the league for the first 10 carries of a game. They’re a mediocre rushing team from carry 11 through 20. And they grow worse from any carry over No. 21 in a game.

Why?
Maybe Bill Lazor’s game plan is such they surprise teams at the start. Maybe it explains why Lamar Miller is getting limited carries – his effectiveness decreases quickly. Or maybe this shows what the loss of Knowshon Moreno meant considering there’s no quality second back.

Let’s look at this. The running game has been effective for the Dolphins. They rank 10[SUP]th[/SUP] in the league with 120.3 yards rushing a game. They’re fifth in the league with a 4.6-yard average per carry. They’re tied for seventh in the league with 40 runs of 10 yards or more.

All that points to a running game that’s surprisingly effective considering an offensive line that had new starters and then has suffered injury. But look at these numbers from Stats Inc. that speak of dwindling effectiveness as the game moves on:

On carries one through 10, they average 4.8 yards per carry (third in the league).
On carries 11 through 20, they average 3.8 yards per carry (tied for 18[SUP]th[/SUP]).
After the 20[SUP]th[/SUP] carry, they average 2.3 yards a carry (ranked 20[SUP]th[/SUP]).

These numbers, of course, don't go the way you'd expect. They help explain why the Dolphins have trouble when ahead in the fourth quarter. They can’t run out the clock in the manner the best teams can.
Look at the top teams. Green Bay ranks tied for 12[SUP]th[/SUP] on carries 1-10 with a 4.3-yard average; drops to 23[SUP]rd[/SUP] in carries 11-20 with a 3.6-yard average; but jumps to fourth from carry No. 21 to the end with a 5.2-yard average when it is running out the clock.

Denver is 23[SUP]rd[/SUP] in carries 1-10 (3.8-yard average); fifth in carries in 11-20 (4.8); and fifth in the 21[SUP]st[/SUP] carry and above (4.6)

New England 19[SUP]th[/SUP] in carries 1-10 (3.6); 24[SUP]th[/SUP] in 11-20 (3.5); 11[SUP]th[/SUP] in carries above 21 (4.1).

As much as I like stats, not a fan of this one. Using Rogers, Peyton, and Brady as an example is not a good one, and they throw out the clock as much as run it out. RT is not there yet.

Over 20 carries is also not fair. Miller has only 18 carries once, and he is not the one running out the clock. Take SD as an extreme example. Miller runs 11 times for 49 yards. Then there was DT with 9 carries for 8 yards, and Williams with 11 carries for 28 yards. That will kill that late average in one game.

I would love to find a stat that showed how we did vs 6 in the box, which we saw often, compared to 7 or 8 in the box.