New Coach, New Era, Give it a chance.

[JLRich13]

We got a new coach and we begin a new era this year. I understand people are pissed because Peyton didnt choose us, or Harbaugh didnt choose us, or Fisher didnt choose us. Joe Philbin did choose us even after the death of his son. I think he deserves our support. Stephen Ross is a new owner and he deserves our support also. He wants to make this team a winner, put people in the stands and make your trip to the stadium a great one. I just think with a new coach and new owner we would be a little more optimistic about this teams future. I know i havent posted a ton of times on here but im a Dolphin fan to the bone and i figured it was about time i started sharing my opinions with my fellow fin fans. We got caught in the Tuna net and now we are free, and Ireland is free of it and i think our Dolphins have big things to come.

 

[PhinKev]

I agree.

 

[Lilseb93]

Ireland is still part of the Parcells era. He needs to go.

 

[PeterNorth]

How do you expect anyone to accept the possibility of guys like Alex Smith, Tim Tebow, David Garrard, or Matt Moore as the starting QB this season? Everyone was thinking this was the year we finally put an end to the shenanigans and got a real Quarterback. I agree that there are way too many knee-jerk reactions going on in general, but you seriously can't expect people to not only eat a big steaming pile of crap, but also enjoy it.

 

[JLRich13]

Last i checked we havent signed Smith, Garrard or Tebow. I remember a certain left handed running quarterback who sucked with the Bucks but thrived in Bill Walsh's West Coast System. Even if we did trade for Tebow, you never know what can happen. The Kids a hard worker and he wants to be great. Im just saying lets be a little more optimistic. Its the off season, this is the time we should be having super bowl dreams. Save the rage for the season if things go south.

 

[daniel3]

How do you expect anyone to accept the possibility of guys like Alex Smith, Tim Tebow, David Garrard, or Matt Moore as the starting QB this season? Everyone was thinking this was the year we finally put an end to the shenanigans and got a real Quarterback. I agree that there are way too many knee-jerk reactions going on in general, but you seriously can't expect people to not only eat a big steaming pile of crap, but also enjoy it.

The only real chance we had was in the draft of upgrading the QB position. Washington moving up to get RGIII was a big hit for us, but I don't think the current group views it as a knockout to their search. The whole Matt Flynn thing seems like something that got peoples hopes up, similar to Brady Quinn fiasco. We will see in the coming year or two whether Flynn is valuable at the position, but I for one really don't think we missed out on much. I also see people reading too much into the Tannehill business and then when they don't select him, they will say the franchise failed again.

 

[JLRich13]

I agree with you daniel3. I really dont care if we brought back Cleo Lemon to be the starter. Yea i would be pissed but would i say my team sucks or say the season is over. Never gonna happen with me.

 

[johngarryvo]

IT AINT THE COACH. or the coaches. nor the players, trainers, support staff, janitorial services, craft services, equipment managers, office staff, livery, electricians, carpenters, painters, or carpet cleaners.

check the two shmucks in the offices marked "Owner" and "Minion".

 

[PeterNorth]

Last i checked we havent signed Smith, Garrard or Tebow. I remember a certain left handed running quarterback who sucked with the Bucks but thrived in Bill Walsh's West Coast System. Even if we did trade for Tebow, you never know what can happen. The Kids a hard worker and he wants to be great. Im just saying lets be a little more optimistic. Its the off season, this is the time we should be having super bowl dreams. Save the rage for the season if things go south.

Hence me saying "possibility." I did not claim that any of those were a foregone conclusion. Nor am I personally one of the people losing my **** left and right about every little media tidbit being passed around. I was simply giving some very logical reasons why people might be getting upset. If you choose to be one of those "there must be a plan, there must be a plan" people, so be it. Let everyone do what they want to do.

 

[FreightTrain10]

How do you expect anyone to accept the possibility of guys like Alex Smith, Tim Tebow, David Garrard, or Matt Moore as the starting QB this season? Everyone was thinking this was the year we finally put an end to the shenanigans and got a real Quarterback. I agree that there are way too many knee-jerk reactions going on in general, but you seriously can't expect people to not only eat a big steaming pile of crap, but also enjoy it.

Manning was never going to come to Miami. And even if he had been wooed by a contract that was vastly superior to every other offer; it would have set the Dolphins back for years. I would be fine with 3 out of 4 of the QBs that you listed starting actually.

People assume that every free agent is going to want to come to Miami in the first place. I hate to break your bubble, but that is not always true.

 

[endorPHINS72]

From what I know of Coach Philbin, I trust him and think he will do the best he possibly can with the talent he has. That being said, Jeff Ireland doesn't draft playmakers. He simply doesn't. Name one impact player (not a solid or decent player) he has drafted in the supposed two years he has had full control of the Dolphins. That is the problem Coach Philbin faces - Ireland is a scared little girl when it comes to drafting and he sucks at FA.

 

[islandah]

Prediction for 2012 season and beyond:

Denver pays a fortune to get rid of Tebow, I mean for Peyton Manning, and does above average, getting deep into the playoffs but not to the big game. Peyton retires after 2 years and another 2 surgeries. Denver finds itself with poor draft picks, no cap space, no qb.

Seattle Seahawks starting qb Tavaris Jackson has average year, Seahawks draft qb in next years draft. Matt Flynn holds clipboard, until his eventual release. Seahawks miss the playoffs.

Andrew Luck proves to be Flacco-esque, but Indianapolis doesn't have the rest of the Ravens to surround him. Indy is sub-par for years to come, and Luck loses all confidence, eventually becoming 2nd tier free agent.


RG3 clashes with the micromanaging Shanahan's, Snyder tries for years to buy him shiny expensive big name free agents and hot coaches, to no avail. He demands trade or release, and eventually ends up excelling in his next gig.


Joe Philbin takes the new Dolphins qb, plays to his strengths, painstakingly develops his abilities and surrounds him with talent that fits his system. The Fins return to the playoffs the first year, but that's just the beginning of the new dynasty. A couple years down the road, Philbin accepts yet another coach of the year award, our qb accepts the Superbowl MVP Award, Lebron and D-Wade dance on the orange carpet with J-lo, Gloria Estefan, and the Williams sisters, while Marino and Shula present Ross with the Lombardi trophy. Peyton and Jeff Fisher tearfully apologize to Jeff Ireland. Ryan Clark is arrested for soliciting a prostitute on South Beach. He shares a patrol car with Dez Bryant's mother.

 

[Alex Trevelyan]

Enough with preaching patience. It's been nearly 40-years since this team won ANYTHING. Nearly a half a century. The fan base has been patient enough, long enough. This franchise has been mismanaged for decades. Why is their a remnant on this forum who thinks this just began, or they talk about the Marino/Shula days as if they were the halcyon days of Montana and Walsh? They weren't. We were a middling franchise then. We are an awful franchise now. The team has been in 2 playoff games in a decade and lost both of them. Our best team performance during the Marino years occurred in his second-year for crying out loud! It was diminishing returns thereafter. For all of his greatness, this organization failed him again and again.

And this isn't really starting anew. Ross choose to keep the primary cog in the Parcells machine, the general manager Jeff Ireland. Think about this, this team is freaking awful, has been for years, yet we are pressed under the cap. How does that happen? The Broncos were in the playoffs and had nearly $40 mil. in cap space. The Patriots had only a few hundred thousand dollars less in cap space than we do! That is the definition of front office incompetence! And the man most responsible for it is still calling the shots! How is this a new day? Philbin can only work with what he's given. Shula demonstrated how a coaching genius can be hamstrung by bad front office moves, in his case, his own managerial incompetence and we're yet to see what Philbin can actually do as a HC.

The fact that this team had targeted Peyton Manning, a 36-year old quarterback who didn't play last season, with experience in one offensive system and one OC his whole career (unprecedented in the annals of elite quarterbacks) and recovering from multiple surgeries affecting his neck, as THE GUY, who was going to turn the team around is proof in and of itself of gross incompetence in my opinion. That was a business decision Ross pursued to put asses in the seats. I personally see no reason for optimism. None of the quarterbacks likely to be available at the eighth spot in the draft are anywhere near elite prospects at the position. They're only getting play as top ten picks because of pure desperation on the part of quarterback-hungry teams and when you force a guy into the top ten you get Blaine Gabbert.

 

[PhinFan0202]

All the changes that the Dolphins have made this off season wreak of Carl Peterson, I hate that ****er sooooooo much. The move to the 4-3 defense, the hiring of an offensive minded coach, etc. Look at the talent were losing one by one, Lanford is the on the Rams now, Marshall is gone and not over yet. We had a team ready to compete with the big boys of the NFL if they would have just kept the team together for just one more year, why can't these *******s see that? IDK. If anyone should have lost his job it should have been Ireland and not Sparano.

 

[NBP81]

Prediction for 2012 season and beyond:

Denver pays a fortune to get rid of Tebow, I mean for Peyton Manning, and does above average, getting deep into the playoffs but not to the big game. Peyton retires after 2 years and another 2 surgeries. Denver finds itself with poor draft picks, no cap space, no qb.

Seattle Seahawks starting qb Tavaris Jackson has average year, Seahawks draft qb in next years draft. Matt Flynn holds clipboard, until his eventual release. Seahawks miss the playoffs.

Andrew Luck proves to be Flacco-esque, but Indianapolis doesn't have the rest of the Ravens to surround him. Indy is sub-par for years to come, and Luck loses all confidence, eventually becoming 2nd tier free agent.


RG3 clashes with the micromanaging Shanahan's, Snyder tries for years to buy him shiny expensive big name free agents and hot coaches, to no avail. He demands trade or release, and eventually ends up excelling in his next gig.


Joe Philbin takes the new Dolphins qb, plays to his strengths, painstakingly develops his abilities and surrounds him with talent that fits his system. The Fins return to the playoffs the first year, but that's just the beginning of the new dynasty. A couple years down the road, Philbin accepts yet another coach of the year award, our qb accepts the Superbowl MVP Award, Lebron and D-Wade dance on the orange carpet with J-lo, Gloria Estefan, and the Williams sisters, while Marino and Shula present Ross with the Lombardi trophy. Peyton and Jeff Fisher tearfully apologize to Jeff Ireland. Ryan Clark is arrested for soliciting a prostitute on South Beach. He shares a patrol car with Dez Bryant's mother.

Now thats what I'm talking about!