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New Coach, New Era, Give it a chance.

Ryan Clark is arrested for soliciting a prostitute on South Beach. He shares a patrol car with Dez Bryant's mother.

No, Ryan Clark is arrested for soliciting a prostitute on South Beach, who happened to be Dez Bryant's mother
 
I like the HC hire. I think most fans love the pick. However, GM is controlling the draft and is still looking at his value chart.

We need to draft a QB for philbin and I say two QBs with talent to start after one year. Will GM make it happen. He does not have the history and lost out on Flynn who is a good QB in his system already and does not have to be taught one single thing. He is an expert in Philbins system. All we have now is the draft cause we lowballed Flynn and did not show enough interest. Give the power to MArino as Elway has the power and he will work with philbin.
 
All the changes that the Dolphins have made this off season wreak of Carl Peterson, I hate that ****er sooooooo much. The move to the 4-3 defense, the hiring of an offensive minded coach, etc. Look at the talent were losing one by one, Lanford is the on the Rams now, Marshall is gone and not over yet. We had a team ready to compete with the big boys of the NFL if they would have just kept the team together for just one more year, why can't these *******s see that? IDK. If anyone should have lost his job it should have been Ireland and not Sparano.

Ur joking right? LOL... you dont compete for anything when ur team is starting 0-7
 
And last year I'm sure you wanted to give Sparano another chance, and Daboll a chance, and Henne a chance without Henning around and on and on and on.

At some point you have to draw a line in the sand and call bull**** on anything that crosses it.
 
Prediction for 2012 season and beyond:

Denver pays a fortune to get rid of Tebow, I mean for Peyton Manning, and does above average, getting deep into the playoffs but not to the big game. Peyton retires after 2 years and another 2 surgeries. Denver finds itself with poor draft picks, no cap space, no qb.

Seattle Seahawks starting qb Tavaris Jackson has average year, Seahawks draft qb in next years draft. Matt Flynn holds clipboard, until his eventual release. Seahawks miss the playoffs.

Andrew Luck proves to be Flacco-esque, but Indianapolis doesn't have the rest of the Ravens to surround him. Indy is sub-par for years to come, and Luck loses all confidence, eventually becoming 2nd tier free agent.


RG3 clashes with the micromanaging Shanahan's, Snyder tries for years to buy him shiny expensive big name free agents and hot coaches, to no avail. He demands trade or release, and eventually ends up excelling in his next gig.


Joe Philbin takes the new Dolphins qb, plays to his strengths, painstakingly develops his abilities and surrounds him with talent that fits his system. The Fins return to the playoffs the first year, but that's just the beginning of the new dynasty. A couple years down the road, Philbin accepts yet another coach of the year award, our qb accepts the Superbowl MVP Award, Lebron and D-Wade dance on the orange carpet with J-lo, Gloria Estefan, and the Williams sisters, while Marino and Shula present Ross with the Lombardi trophy. Peyton and Jeff Fisher tearfully apologize to Jeff Ireland. Ryan Clark is arrested for soliciting a prostitute on South Beach. He shares a patrol car with Dez Bryant's mother.

Nostradamus couldnt have predicted it better!!!! I agree with it all
 
[h=2]New Coach, New Era, Give it a chance.[/h]
Thank you.
 
Enough with preaching patience. It's been nearly 40-years since this team won ANYTHING. Nearly a half a century. The fan base has been patient enough, long enough. This franchise has been mismanaged for decades. Why is their a remnant on this forum who thinks this just began, or they talk about the Marino/Shula days as if they were the halcyon days of Montana and Walsh? They weren't. We were a middling franchise then. We are an awful franchise now. The team has been in 2 playoff games in a decade and lost both of them. Our best team performance during the Marino years occurred in his second-year for crying out loud! It was diminishing returns thereafter. For all of his greatness, this organization failed him again and again.

And this isn't really starting anew. Ross choose to keep the primary cog in the Parcells machine, the general manager Jeff Ireland. Think about this, this team is freaking awful, has been for years, yet we are pressed under the cap. How does that happen? The Broncos were in the playoffs and had nearly $40 mil. in cap space. The Patriots had only a few hundred thousand dollars less in cap space than we do! That is the definition of front office incompetence! And the man most responsible for it is still calling the shots! How is this a new day? Philbin can only work with what he's given. Shula demonstrated how a coaching genius can be hamstrung by bad front office moves, in his case, his own managerial incompetence and we're yet to see what Philbin can actually do as a HC.

The fact that this team had targeted Peyton Manning, a 36-year old quarterback who didn't play last season, with experience in one offensive system and one OC his whole career (unprecedented in the annals of elite quarterbacks) and recovering from multiple surgeries affecting his neck, as THE GUY, who was going to turn the team around is proof in and of itself of gross incompetence in my opinion. That was a business decision Ross pursued to put asses in the seats. I personally see no reason for optimism. None of the quarterbacks likely to be available at the eighth spot in the draft are anywhere near elite prospects at the position. They're only getting play as top ten picks because of pure desperation on the part of quarterback-hungry teams and when you force a guy into the top ten you get Blaine Gabbert.

Blasphemy I say!!
In truth, the Fins were relevant until 2003. At least we were respected and still had a positive legacy.
Were you even alive during the Shula years?
 
We got a new coach and we begin a new era this year. I understand people are pissed because Peyton didnt choose us, or Harbaugh didnt choose us, or Fisher didnt choose us. Joe Philbin did choose us even after the death of his son. I think he deserves our support. Stephen Ross is a new owner and he deserves our support also. He wants to make this team a winner, put people in the stands and make your trip to the stadium a great one. I just think with a new coach and new owner we would be a little more optimistic about this teams future. I know i havent posted a ton of times on here but im a Dolphin fan to the bone and i figured it was about time i started sharing my opinions with my fellow fin fans. We got caught in the Tuna net and now we are free, and Ireland is free of it and i think our Dolphins have big things to come.

I agree. Ross is only going into his 3rd yr as the owner and he inherited Parcells (and the overblown aura surrounding him). Ireland has only been in charge for one full season and did a good job with the draft last season.
The team has no franchise QB, but that can be traced back to the incompetence of Wannstadt (Jamar Fletcher over Drew Brees) and Saban (Ronnie Brown over Aaron Rogers).
What separates all the 'elite' teams from everyone else is a franchise QB. The Pats stumbled onto Tom Brady so in a sense they were very lucky. Some teams were just awful i.e Colts (Manning).
BP passed on Ryan and instead took Jake Long. That isn't a blunder because Ryan hasn't distinguished himself as an elite QB IMO.
Franchise QB's don't grow on trees. Most of the time you have to be lucky or really bad (at the right time) or both and unfortunately the Phins have been neither. That's not Ireland's fault. I think Irsay is an idiot, but he's been VERY lucky (twice).
The Phins made a play for Manning and they missed (so did several other teams). At the end of the day Manning took the money, not the best chance to win a SB (that would have been San Fran). Flynn was a risk any way you look at it and the Phins recognized that. Sometimes the best moves you make are the ones you don't make. Orton comes to mind.
Philbin hasn't even gotten a chance to put his imprint on the team and already people are speaking of a protest in front of Phins HQ's, demonstrating just how childish and petty some of our fellow fans are. Heck, why would any coach want to take this job after that.
 
I agree. Ross is only going into his 3rd yr as the owner and he inherited Parcells (and the overblown aura surrounding him). Ireland has only been in charge for one full season and did a good job with the draft last season.
The team has no franchise QB, but that can be traced back to the incompetence of Wannstadt (Jamar Fletcher over Drew Brees) and Saban (Ronnie Brown over Aaron Rogers).
What separates all the 'elite' teams from everyone else is a franchise QB. The Pats stumbled onto Tom Brady so in a sense they were very lucky. Some teams were just awful i.e Colts (Manning).
BP passed on Ryan and instead took Jake Long. That isn't a blunder because Ryan hasn't distinguished himself as an elite QB IMO.
Franchise QB's don't grow on trees. Most of the time you have to be lucky or really bad (at the right time) or both and unfortunately the Phins have been neither. That's not Ireland's fault. I think Irsay is an idiot, but he's been VERY lucky (twice).
The Phins made a play for Manning and they missed (so did several other teams). At the end of the day Manning took the money, not the best chance to win a SB (that would have been San Fran). Flynn was a risk any way you look at it and the Phins recognized that. Sometimes the best moves you make are the ones you don't make. Orton comes to mind.
Philbin hasn't even gotten a chance to put his imprint on the team and already people are speaking of a protest in front of Phins HQ's, demonstrating just how childish and petty some of our fellow fans are. Heck, why would any coach want to take this job after that.

Bravo!! :hump:
 
Blasphemy I say!!
In truth, the Fins were relevant until 2003. At least we were respected and still had a positive legacy.
Were you even alive during the Shula years?

Yes, I was alive to witness Eric Kumerow, Sammie Smith, Scott Schwedes, Lorenzo Hampton, Dewey Forte, John Bosa, Billy Milner, Andrew Greene, Eddie "Earthquake" Blake, Mike Charles, Jackie Shipp, Jay Brophy, on and on and on. All of those bums were first or second-round picks. Marino carried this franchise for the last 12-years of Shula's career, without Marino, we would have been unfathomably bad. Remember Shula's unwillingness to fire Tom Olivadotti? Or Gary Stevens? I think there is a level of misplaced nostalgia about the Marino/Shula years. The franchise was relevant, but it was average, it was never a real contender after the 1985 season. I don't like the fact that Dolphins' fans have such pleasant memories of what amounted to mediocrity. The franchise's true greatness is so far in the rear view mirror you can barely see it anymore.
 
Prediction for 2012 season and beyond:

Denver pays a fortune to get rid of Tebow, I mean for Peyton Manning, and does above average, getting deep into the playoffs but not to the big game. Peyton retires after 2 years and another 2 surgeries. Denver finds itself with poor draft picks, no cap space, no qb.

Seattle Seahawks starting qb Tavaris Jackson has average year, Seahawks draft qb in next years draft. Matt Flynn holds clipboard, until his eventual release. Seahawks miss the playoffs.

Andrew Luck proves to be Flacco-esque, but Indianapolis doesn't have the rest of the Ravens to surround him. Indy is sub-par for years to come, and Luck loses all confidence, eventually becoming 2nd tier free agent.


RG3 clashes with the micromanaging Shanahan's, Snyder tries for years to buy him shiny expensive big name free agents and hot coaches, to no avail. He demands trade or release, and eventually ends up excelling in his next gig.


Joe Philbin takes the new Dolphins qb, plays to his strengths, painstakingly develops his abilities and surrounds him with talent that fits his system. The Fins return to the playoffs the first year, but that's just the beginning of the new dynasty. A couple years down the road, Philbin accepts yet another coach of the year award, our qb accepts the Superbowl MVP Award, Lebron and D-Wade dance on the orange carpet with J-lo, Gloria Estefan, and the Williams sisters, while Marino and Shula present Ross with the Lombardi trophy. Peyton and Jeff Fisher tearfully apologize to Jeff Ireland. Ryan Clark is arrested for soliciting a prostitute on South Beach. He shares a patrol car with Dez Bryant's mother.

I like it.........lol
 
I like the optimism...but the Dolphins need to stop starting over, like Cam Cameron (over Mike Tomlin) Nick Saban. Tony Soprano. We need to get a Coach Like Harbaugh last year. That guy has a "IT" Factor. I like Coach Philbin and I will support the team but unfortunately he walked into another bad situation, we still have no QB. We traded our best Wide Receiver, we look like a 4 or 5 win team again which starts the losing cycle. Ireland and Ross need to GO. We need Fresh Ownership, and a new Stadium. We are going backwards, and have been for 3 years...make that 10.
 
Prediction for 2012 season and beyond:

Denver pays a fortune to get rid of Tebow, I mean for Peyton Manning, and does above average, getting deep into the playoffs but not to the big game. Peyton retires after 2 years and another 2 surgeries. Denver finds itself with poor draft picks, no cap space, no qb.

Seattle Seahawks starting qb Tavaris Jackson has average year, Seahawks draft qb in next years draft. Matt Flynn holds clipboard, until his eventual release. Seahawks miss the playoffs.

Andrew Luck proves to be Flacco-esque, but Indianapolis doesn't have the rest of the Ravens to surround him. Indy is sub-par for years to come, and Luck loses all confidence, eventually becoming 2nd tier free agent.


RG3 clashes with the micromanaging Shanahan's, Snyder tries for years to buy him shiny expensive big name free agents and hot coaches, to no avail. He demands trade or release, and eventually ends up excelling in his next gig.


Joe Philbin takes the new Dolphins qb, plays to his strengths, painstakingly develops his abilities and surrounds him with talent that fits his system. The Fins return to the playoffs the first year, but that's just the beginning of the new dynasty. A couple years down the road, Philbin accepts yet another coach of the year award, our qb accepts the Superbowl MVP Award, Lebron and D-Wade dance on the orange carpet with J-lo, Gloria Estefan, and the Williams sisters, while Marino and Shula present Ross with the Lombardi trophy. Peyton and Jeff Fisher tearfully apologize to Jeff Ireland. Ryan Clark is arrested for soliciting a prostitute on South Beach. He shares a patrol car with Dez Bryant's mother.
LMAO!!! That last line is Classic!!!
 
Yes, I was alive to witness Eric Kumerow, Sammie Smith, Scott Schwedes, Lorenzo Hampton, Dewey Forte, John Bosa, Billy Milner, Andrew Greene, Eddie "Earthquake" Blake, Mike Charles, Jackie Shipp, Jay Brophy, on and on and on. All of those bums were first or second-round picks. Marino carried this franchise for the last 12-years of Shula's career, without Marino, we would have been unfathomably bad. Remember Shula's unwillingness to fire Tom Olivadotti? Or Gary Stevens? I think there is a level of misplaced nostalgia about the Marino/Shula years. The franchise was relevant, but it was average, it was never a real contender after the 1985 season. I don't like the fact that Dolphins' fans have such pleasant memories of what amounted to mediocrity. The franchise's true greatness is so far in the rear view mirror you can barely see it anymore.

Also...alot was brought on by Marino's salary...he always was the highest paid.
 
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