New Fox Sports Mock - Realistic?

[Frayser]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6588190

I happen to think this is pretty dead on . . . at least in the top 10. I know you Ginn Jr.-heads out there won't like him falling all the way to the Colts, and I must admit that the thought of that scares the hell out of me. Maybe we should take him just so the Colts don't.

But seriously, I think the Falcons won't get Landry because the Redskins are going to grab him now that Archuleta is finally in Chicago. Sean Taylor and Laron Landry just might turn out to the best duo of safeties in the league.

The author even admits that there is no way Peterson falls that far. So my hope in a scenario like this would be that, if Peterson were to fall to us, we trade down with Green Bay (screwing Buffalo over in the process which is always nice) and then take Darelle Revis. I seem to remember the University of Pittsburgh being kind to us in the draft before.

 

[zach8111]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6588190

I happen to think this is pretty dead on . . . at least in the top 10. I know you Ginn Jr.-heads out there won't like him falling all the way to the Colts, and I must admit that the thought of that scares the hell out of me. Maybe we should take him just so the Colts don't.

But seriously, I think the Falcons won't get Landry because the Redskins are going to grab him now that Archuleta is finally in Chicago. Sean Taylor and Laron Landry just might turn out to the best duo of safeties in the league.

The author even admits that there is no way Peterson falls that far. So my hope in a scenario like this would be that, if Peterson were to fall to us, we trade down with Green Bay (screwing Buffalo over in the process which is always nice) and then take Darelle Revis. I seem to remember the University of Pittsburgh being kind to us in the draft before.

it cant be too acurate because falcons pick #8 and texans pick #10

 

[Danny]

That's stupid....if we go DT at 9 it'd be Branch as Okoye doesn't really fit the NT that we're looking for when Traylor retires.

Ozzy rules!!

 

[IluvJuMiami]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6588190

I happen to think this is pretty dead on . . . at least in the top 10. I know you Ginn Jr.-heads out there won't like him falling all the way to the Colts, and I must admit that the thought of that scares the hell out of me. Maybe we should take him just so the Colts don't.

But seriously, I think the Falcons won't get Landry because the Redskins are going to grab him now that Archuleta is finally in Chicago. Sean Taylor and Laron Landry just might turn out to the best duo of safeties in the league.

The author even admits that there is no way Peterson falls that far. So my hope in a scenario like this would be that, if Peterson were to fall to us, we trade down with Green Bay (screwing Buffalo over in the process which is always nice) and then take Darelle Revis. I seem to remember the University of Pittsburgh being kind to us in the draft before.

I think the mock is bad but Landry to Washington does make a lot of sense now.

Darrelle Revis? Everytime I hear a Dolfan suggest a first round defensive selection I cringe.

You got a top 5 ranked defense that just signed Joey Porter on one hand, a 20th ranked offense that's lost it's starting TE, it's most productive WR, most of it's OL depth and you guys still want to draft defense?

Either I don't know a thing about this game or those of you calling for defense don't.

I'm gonna back myself on this one.

 

[Frayser]

it cant be too acurate because falcons pick #8 and texans pick #10

Congratulations on pointing out that a trade was made today that I'm sure this guy was not aware of at the time he published this.

 

[Frayser]

That's stupid....if we go DT at 9 it'd be Branch as Okoye doesn't really fit the NT that we're looking for when Traylor retires.

Ozzy rules!!

Branch has been falling as his workouts have not been great and more and more rumors of him being lazy have circulated. It is possible that Okoye could grow into the NT position. He is only 19. I'm not defending the pick though. I don't think we should take either DT.

 

[Frayser]

I think the mock is bad but Landry to Washington does make a lot of sense now.

Darrelle Revis? Everytime I hear a Dolfan suggest a first round defensive selection I cringe.

You got a top 5 ranked defense that just signed Joey Porter on one hand, a 20th ranked offense that's lost it's starting TE, it's most productive WR, most of it's OL depth and you guys still want to draft defense?

Either I don't know a thing about this game or those of you calling for defense don't.

I'm gonna back myself on this one.

Trust me. I know plenty. You can't just look at last years rankings and make your draft selections. Our top three defensive players are all over 30. Our defensive line is unproven. And our secondary is mediocre at best. We can use some help on defense.

On offense, we are either going with Culpepper or Green to start. The top two QBs in the draft will likely be gone before we pick so that is out anyway. Chambers and Booker are still a decent pair of WRs, and we also have Hagan who was a 2nd round pick from last year. Not much we can do to upgrade RB. TE could probably use some more talent . . . so Greg Olsen might not be a bad idea. And I don't believe our offensive line is the catastrophe waiting to happen that some people do. I definitely think we should take two linemen in our first five or so picks, but I'm not sure there is anyone at 9 or even in the middle of round 1 that I am incredibly high on.

 

[miamitd13]

If that is how it unfolds - I'd hope maybe we could entice a running back needy team to trade up with us for Peterson....

 

[Sean]

I think the mock is bad but Landry to Washington does make a lot of sense now.

Darrelle Revis? Everytime I hear a Dolfan suggest a first round defensive selection I cringe.

You got a top 5 ranked defense that just signed Joey Porter on one hand, a 20th ranked offense that's lost it's starting TE, it's most productive WR, most of it's OL depth and you guys still want to draft defense?

Either I don't know a thing about this game or those of you calling for defense don't.

I'm gonna back myself on this one.

GB won't get Mcetchem; they'll get Marshawn Lynch

 

[Frayser]

If that is how it unfolds - I'd hope maybe we could entice a running back needy team to trade up with us for Peterson....

Like I said, it seems only natural that if that were to play out Green Bay would consider hopping ahead of Buffalo for him. Even if we give them a deal and just grab an extra pick or two, it might be worth it considering #9 is not looking like a great value slot for us.

 

[IluvJuMiami]

Trust me. I know plenty. You can't just look at last years rankings and make your draft selections. Our top three defensive players are all over 30. Our defensive line is unproven. And our secondary is mediocre at best. We can use some help on defense.

On offense, we are either going with Culpepper or Green to start. The top two QBs in the draft will likely be gone before we pick so that is out anyway. Chambers and Booker are still a decent pair of WRs, and we also have Hagan who was a 2nd round pick from last year. Not much we can do to upgrade RB. TE could probably use some more talent . . . so Greg Olsen might not be a bad idea. And I don't believe our offensive line is the catastrophe waiting to happen that some people do. I definitely think we should take two linemen in our first five or so picks, but I'm not sure there is anyone at 9 or even in the middle of round 1 that I am incredibly high on.

I understand that at 9 the value as far as rankings and mocks go are at defense, but we don't have to stay at 9.

Who sold you guys a bill of rights proclaiming that unless you get exactly what you want you can't move out of your draft spot?

If no one is offering to trade up then you might have to bite the bullet and take less in a trade, that's all. Or grow some testes and move up. Or whats more, take the guy you want value or not at that spot.

A trade down, even in a mediocre trade, would be better than that last option, but if no one wants to move up even cheap, take the guy you want/need.

IMO LaRon Landry has the same value on our defense that Greg Olsen or Ted Gin Jr would have on our offense. But LaRon Landry will be chosen way before any of those other guys.

 

[Frayser]

I understand that at 9 the value as far as rankings and mocks go are at defense, but we don't have to stay at 9.

Who sold you guys a bill of rights proclaiming that unless you get exactly what you want you can't move out of your draft spot?

If no one is offering to trade up then you might have to bite the bullet and take less in a trade, that's all. Or grow some testes and move up. Or whats more, take the guy you want value or not at that spot.

A trade down, even in a mediocre trade, would be better than that last option, but if no one wants to move up even cheap, take the guy you want/need.

IMO LaRon Landry has the same value on our defense that Greg Olsen or Ted Gin Jr would have on our offense. But LaRon Landry will be chosen way before any of those other guys.

Believe me, I am right there with you. I have been saying for days now we should work out a trade even if we are giving the pick away. Throw out the value charts. If someone wants to toss us a 1st and 2nd or 1st and 3rd, lets do it. No sense in reaching when we can move back and add another first day pick. This draft is a bit light at the top but heavy from about picks 25-90 if you ask me.

And I would make one additional point with respect to our offense/defense debate. You can't change who you are. Since Marino left, we have been a power run/strong defense kind of team. That's why we wanted Ronnie, and that is why the defense has been given more attention than the offense. As great as our defense was though, when did it breakdown? We gave up too many big plays, and we were ineffective on blitzes (or sometimes a combination of both). Porter was brought in to change the latter. I think we need a top notch safety or corner to change the former. With those changes, we go from a Top 5 defense to the Top defense. We may not end up #1 on rankings, but we will be feared. And we will create more turnovers, score more defensive points, and give our offense much better field position.

I'm not saying we must pick defense. I'm just trying to give you a better idea of why I think it makes our team better. You also have to realize that the Pats just stocked their receiving corps.

 

[fishypete]

Trust me. I know plenty. You can't just look at last years rankings and make your draft selections. Our top three defensive players are all over 30. Our defensive line is unproven. And our secondary is mediocre at best. We can use some help on defense.

On offense, we are either going with Culpepper or Green to start. The top two QBs in the draft will likely be gone before we pick so that is out anyway. Chambers and Booker are still a decent pair of WRs, and we also have Hagan who was a 2nd round pick from last year. Not much we can do to upgrade RB. TE could probably use some more talent . . . so Greg Olsen might not be a bad idea. And I don't believe our offensive line is the catastrophe waiting to happen that some people do. I definitely think we should take two linemen in our first five or so picks, but I'm not sure there is anyone at 9 or even in the middle of round 1 that I am incredibly high on.

I believe Green coming to Miami is about Zero....the Dolphins want him to play for Vet min....thats not going to happen....so either they go after Carr or a QB in the draft.


Dolphins | Team interested but wants Green to take pay cut
Wed, 21 Mar 2007 19:06:16 -0700
Greg A. Bedard, of the Palm Beach Post, reports the Miami Dolphins are very interested in Kansas City Chiefs QB Trent Green, but they want Green to take a major pay cut from the $7.2, $7.7 and $9.2 million the 36-year-old veteran is due over the next three seasons, which are the final three years on his current contract. Miami doesn't want to pay Green, who will turn 37 in July, much more than the NFL veteran's minimum, which is $820,000 in 2007.

 

[Roman529]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6588190

I happen to think this is pretty dead on . . . at least in the top 10. I know you Ginn Jr.-heads out there won't like him falling all the way to the Colts, and I must admit that the thought of that scares the hell out of me. Maybe we should take him just so the Colts don't.

But seriously, I think the Falcons won't get Landry because the Redskins are going to grab him now that Archuleta is finally in Chicago. Sean Taylor and Laron Landry just might turn out to the best duo of safeties in the league.

The author even admits that there is no way Peterson falls that far. So my hope in a scenario like this would be that, if Peterson were to fall to us, we trade down with Green Bay (screwing Buffalo over in the process which is always nice) and then take Darelle Revis. I seem to remember the University of Pittsburgh being kind to us in the draft before.

I don't see Patrick Willis going in the top 11 picks, and I don't see AP lasting until the 12th pick. I think Miami would have to grab AP if he is there when we pick...he will be the BPA....we could always trade him later if need be.

 

[finfan54]

I don't see Patrick Willis going in the top 11 picks, and I don't see AP lasting until the 12th pick. I think Miami would have to grab AP if he is there when we pick...he will be the BPA....we could always trade him later if need be.

um, i could see it definitely. It happens all the time that someone catapults themselves up while others (branch slip downward in a big way). Willis is the best LB in this draft period.