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Newbie here. "insider" on Beck, of sorts-BYU fan.

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So granted I'm a little biased, but I do have insight to Beck and his abilities as I'm an avid BYU fan and former critic, following his every move from Frosh to Senior.

Beck started off at BYU as the second coming of Detmer, but with a cannon arm (detmer was a great college QB, but his arm was wanting - not so with Beck). That was chat board banter BTW.

In reality, his first three plays were fumble, sack, and interception (byu recovered). Followed later by a head on collision with a USC linebacker ending in a Knocked out cold concussion. No joke. Showed lotsa guts, you have to give the guy that.

So, BYU has a proud, high expectation QB tradition. QBs get absolutely demantled when they underperform (not proud of this fact, but it shows what JB had to go through to win our loyalty and admiration). JB underwent severe and unforgiving analysis and scrutiny the whole time at BYU. Everyone recognized that he had all the tools. But there was great debate on whether he had the "it" factor. The truth is he went through probably the worst period of BYU football ever - and beat it.

In order to understand JB, you need to understand his history.

He was thrown into the starter position as a true frosh after returning from a 2-year mission in a foreign country (recipe for demolishing confidence BTW) by Gary Crowton - good OC (now at LSU), horrible HC. JB was lucky to survive - two other NFL potential QBS did not.

The things that made JB survive are simple. He was coachable, he has the tools, and he has an almost insane desire to win.

So when the new coaching regime came in, during his Junior year, and implemented a whole new system, JB was in full support of his new coaches and new system even when we fans were bashing them all.

He showed glimpses of greatness, but many of us were sceptical, wondering if he had "it." Truth is he didn't have it as a frosh, soph, jun.

Not until his senior year, that is. Early in the year, we were wondering if he had the "it" factor. Then, JB got hurt and sat out a game. He studied from the sideline and saw what he needed to be. He came back in, and critics were hushed - I was one of his worst. IMO at the time, he had talent, but lacked the ability to "will out a win." I was wrong. It was obvious something in JB had clicked. The rest is history.

JB has had as much potential and talent as any BYU QB. He did not have the stable system that Steve Young, Jim McMahon, and Ty Detmer had. He worked through the worst time the BYU program has had in 30 years, and lead the team to the conference championship, and a total and complete buttwhipping in the Las Vegas bowl against the arrogant and bad smelling Oregon Ducks, may they rott in their brand new Nikes. The bowl game wasn't even close. JB lead the team, and since he was the ONLY drafted cougar, it was clear who dismantled the Ducks.

The bottom line on John Beck is that he is extremely talented. He can make every throw. However, the key is he learned to expect to win in his senior year at BYU. I expect you will see him continue to expect wins. He is not the type that is just glad to be a Dolphin - I guarantee he is setting his sights on the superbowl and will give everything he has to get there. And once he's there, he will want to win it more than anyone.
 
I need to find the video I saw of Beck crying and saying all he wants everytime he goes out there is to win. It is incredible the desire this kid has to win. One thing is for sure the guy has one of the bestt attitudes I have seen on this team for a long time, very firery guy
 
Welcome, and great post. I think JB may just be the man we have been searching for since # 13 retired in 1999.
 
This was as a frosh.

Man did our rivals give us crap for this. They were pretty quiet though when we spanked them.

I don't have this vid. But it is the attitude JB has - furious desire to win.


I need to find the video I saw of Beck crying and saying all he wants everytime he goes out there is to win. It is incredible the desire this kid has to win. One thing is for sure the guy has one of the bestt attitudes I have seen on this team for a long time, very firery guy
 
Naaa. He has since learned to "slide."

Thanks for the read, but here we go, concussion already.

He knows he is much better as a concious QB, than as on who wakes up on the sideline with 1/2 the people laughing, and the coaches finally breathing when their future QB hero woke up.
 
Great read. I can't help but laugh at all those others who were trying to tell us that the "other guy" was the one with the "it" factor and had all those "intangibles". Beck really impressed me on tape AND in his interviews. The "other guy" did neither.
 
Great psot, hopefully everyone will see the intangibles that this guy brings to our lackluster offense. he is the type of guy an offense or entire team will rally around!!!!

BECK will be the man!!!!!
 
That is an awesome post..I'm also new here, joined mostly because I'm a pretty big BYU fan myself..and just wanted to follow him in Miami..

This guy is gonna be a special player...I've seen him alot the past 3-4 years...I've been saying from early on that he reminds me so much of Brett Favre in how he acts and plays the game..incredibly motivated with all the tools you look for on the field..:)

Guess I'm gonna be part-Dolphins fan
 
thanks for the insight. i high hopes for our new qb. i saw him last night on espn and he was saying how positive the impact of ginn can be in clearing things out and opening things up for other players, i thought it really showed he understands the game very well. i am hoping he is a true "student of the game" and understands what teams are doing to stop the offense, sounds like he does. i think he and cam will really click in terms of attacking defenses. at least i'm really hoping they do
 
That is an awesome post..I'm also new here, joined mostly because I'm a pretty big BYU fan myself..and just wanted to follow him in Miami..

This guy is gonna be a special player...I've seen him alot the past 3-4 years...I've been saying from early on that he reminds me so much of Brett Favre in how he acts and plays the game..incredibly motivated with all the tools you look for on the field..:)

Guess I'm gonna be part-Dolphins fan

Come on now, why not 100% Dolphins fan?

:wink:
 
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