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Boik14 said:
He'd make a hell of a janitor though.
Suit up Ricky, Vonnie Holiday clogged up the toilet...again...
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He'd make a hell of a janitor though.
Suit up Ricky, Vonnie Holiday clogged up the toilet...again...
FireWrongstedt
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Phinfan31 said:
Not to mention Speilman has no say anymore.
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GRYPHONK said:
You're absolutely right man. How could I have been so judgemental?
I say we gives those guys at Enron another shot too shall we?
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Here's an article espn had on him. I dunno how long ago though
KAPALUA, Hawaii -- Dolphins coach Nick Saban sat at a corner table overlooking the Pacific Ocean, where humpbacks were playing, and made a whale of a proclamation: He's willing to take Ricky Williams back as Miami's running back.
Williams, the troubled halfback who retired and is now learning holistic medicine, currently is in India. Williams has dropped his legal challenges to the $8.6 million judgment against him for quitting the team while under contract. He's also spoken with Saban, although this is clearly the beginning stages of a possible return to the NFL.
"It's kind of a work in progress," Saban said. "There is no formula to it. There is no endpoint to it. It's just a work in progress. There are a lot of issues in regards to personal and professional [matters] that really he needs to make a decision. We're going to facilitate and help him however we can for him to make those decisions to do it, and if he decides to do it, [we've said] 'we'll support you relative to that.' "
Ricky Williams rushed for more than 3,200 yards in two seasons with the Dolphins.
Saban said he has gone so far as to speak to team leaders about Williams returning. Apparently, the response to his return was not as bad as most people outside of the Dolphins' organization would expect. Now, it's up to Williams.
Coming from LSU to the Miami Dolphins, Saban doesn't harbor the same emotions as those who watched Williams quit on the team last year. To him, Williams is a potentially available asset whom he doesn't know. They've talked only briefly. But Williams' departure robbed the offense of its main threat and destroyed the unit, and the team is in desperate need of a running back.
Though it is likely the Dolphins will use the second choice in the NFL draft on a running back, Williams still could fit into the mix and try to resurrect his career. To Saban, it's a business decision, and Williams is an option.
"This is as clear as it gets," Saban said. "That person has value relative to his performance in history, and it's the rights of our organization. What is there to be clear about? We're not slamming the door on him. The lines of communication have been opened so that if there is a commitment, the possibility exists that he has an opportunity to be supported in coming back to the Dolphins. The decision that happens in the future? I don't have a crystal ball."
No one can guess what the future holds for Williams. He says he has given up smoking marijuana in the past month. Williams also must work out his return with the NFL, and that won't be easy. He walked away from a negotiated return to the league last season in which he could have been on the Dolphins' active roster for the final four games. The league would have considered the penalties for his violations of the substance-abuse policy as time served.
David Cornwell, the attorney who negotiated that settlement, no longer works for Williams. With the deal off the table, it's possible the NFL could take the position that Williams needs to serve a year's suspension for retiring before the start of last season, when he reached Step Two of the substance-abuse policy and said he was subject to a four-game suspension.
Williams might have escalated the length of his penalty by retiring and no longer taking drug tests. Those details would have to be worked out with the NFL. For now, the biggest development in the story is that Saban is willing to support Williams if he tries to come back.
Saban wouldn't discuss the details of his conversation with Williams, and will only talk in generalities of his possible return.
"Look, if you want to come back and play football, and you are willing to do the things you need to do to do that, you have that opportunity," Saban said of his conversation with Williams. "The guy obviously has been a very productive player. He's obviously had some issues surrounding him, based on the past. We would have to work through those issues."
In one scenario, Williams could return to be part of a backfield where he could be paired with Ronnie Brown, Cedric Benson or Cadillac Williams. Saban doesn't believe in overusing one back. At LSU, he tried to develop a backfield that had at least two good players.
"I think there are a lot of varied opinions on the running back position because there have been some very good teams who had great running backs and had lots of success," Saban said. "There have been some teams that really don't have a marquee guy and had a lot of success. We would rather have a balanced offense that utilizes all the explosive players on the field."
Last season, several players on the Dolphins spoke out about not wanting Williams to return, and he didn't. Saban is looking ahead.
"People make emotional decisions," Saban said. "Sometimes, time heals that. I'm not saying what happened is OK. But I wasn't here for it. I think the leadership on the team I have spoken to is more interested in the same thing I'm interested in. If he's interested to come back and help us win, then I think that is something I'm interested in doing."
Now, the decision is up to Williams. The door is open in Miami. Will he walk through it? No one knows. As Saban says, there is no crystal ball
KAPALUA, Hawaii -- Dolphins coach Nick Saban sat at a corner table overlooking the Pacific Ocean, where humpbacks were playing, and made a whale of a proclamation: He's willing to take Ricky Williams back as Miami's running back.
Williams, the troubled halfback who retired and is now learning holistic medicine, currently is in India. Williams has dropped his legal challenges to the $8.6 million judgment against him for quitting the team while under contract. He's also spoken with Saban, although this is clearly the beginning stages of a possible return to the NFL.
"It's kind of a work in progress," Saban said. "There is no formula to it. There is no endpoint to it. It's just a work in progress. There are a lot of issues in regards to personal and professional [matters] that really he needs to make a decision. We're going to facilitate and help him however we can for him to make those decisions to do it, and if he decides to do it, [we've said] 'we'll support you relative to that.' "
Ricky Williams rushed for more than 3,200 yards in two seasons with the Dolphins.
Saban said he has gone so far as to speak to team leaders about Williams returning. Apparently, the response to his return was not as bad as most people outside of the Dolphins' organization would expect. Now, it's up to Williams.
Coming from LSU to the Miami Dolphins, Saban doesn't harbor the same emotions as those who watched Williams quit on the team last year. To him, Williams is a potentially available asset whom he doesn't know. They've talked only briefly. But Williams' departure robbed the offense of its main threat and destroyed the unit, and the team is in desperate need of a running back.
Though it is likely the Dolphins will use the second choice in the NFL draft on a running back, Williams still could fit into the mix and try to resurrect his career. To Saban, it's a business decision, and Williams is an option.
"This is as clear as it gets," Saban said. "That person has value relative to his performance in history, and it's the rights of our organization. What is there to be clear about? We're not slamming the door on him. The lines of communication have been opened so that if there is a commitment, the possibility exists that he has an opportunity to be supported in coming back to the Dolphins. The decision that happens in the future? I don't have a crystal ball."
No one can guess what the future holds for Williams. He says he has given up smoking marijuana in the past month. Williams also must work out his return with the NFL, and that won't be easy. He walked away from a negotiated return to the league last season in which he could have been on the Dolphins' active roster for the final four games. The league would have considered the penalties for his violations of the substance-abuse policy as time served.
David Cornwell, the attorney who negotiated that settlement, no longer works for Williams. With the deal off the table, it's possible the NFL could take the position that Williams needs to serve a year's suspension for retiring before the start of last season, when he reached Step Two of the substance-abuse policy and said he was subject to a four-game suspension.
Williams might have escalated the length of his penalty by retiring and no longer taking drug tests. Those details would have to be worked out with the NFL. For now, the biggest development in the story is that Saban is willing to support Williams if he tries to come back.
Saban wouldn't discuss the details of his conversation with Williams, and will only talk in generalities of his possible return.
"Look, if you want to come back and play football, and you are willing to do the things you need to do to do that, you have that opportunity," Saban said of his conversation with Williams. "The guy obviously has been a very productive player. He's obviously had some issues surrounding him, based on the past. We would have to work through those issues."
In one scenario, Williams could return to be part of a backfield where he could be paired with Ronnie Brown, Cedric Benson or Cadillac Williams. Saban doesn't believe in overusing one back. At LSU, he tried to develop a backfield that had at least two good players.
"I think there are a lot of varied opinions on the running back position because there have been some very good teams who had great running backs and had lots of success," Saban said. "There have been some teams that really don't have a marquee guy and had a lot of success. We would rather have a balanced offense that utilizes all the explosive players on the field."
Last season, several players on the Dolphins spoke out about not wanting Williams to return, and he didn't. Saban is looking ahead.
"People make emotional decisions," Saban said. "Sometimes, time heals that. I'm not saying what happened is OK. But I wasn't here for it. I think the leadership on the team I have spoken to is more interested in the same thing I'm interested in. If he's interested to come back and help us win, then I think that is something I'm interested in doing."
Now, the decision is up to Williams. The door is open in Miami. Will he walk through it? No one knows. As Saban says, there is no crystal ball
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yes i knowed he was coming back because he owes us 8.6 mil he didnt try to fight it or bankrupt and he was told by a judge that he has to pay 4,200 a month child support sooooo yes i knew it that was why i was all for us to draft brylon edwards because if he dont play football he will have no way of paying that kind of money (4,200) a month he has no option but to come back and act like somebody or go to jail sooooo i knew it all the time and saban knew it to thats why i was judging his pick with ronnie brown i know ronnie isa great rb but with ricky coming back i think we should have went with edwards and right now ricky has no trade value so we wouldnt get nothing 4 him but he will be back and i know he will keep a straight head cause i would rather play football than go to jail ricky wont pull no more dissapearing act he cant afford to :wink:
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Predaphin said:
Speak for yourself and do not include me in such a blanket statment. We took Ronnie because Ricky screwed us so therefore we have now replaced Ricky. There is absolutely no reason to ever bring him back and it is now time to move on now that we replaced him. I will never accept him and hopefully there is a lockeroom full of players that agree. Of course it seems the fans on here don't give a crap about what the players think.
It's very sad how many flip-flopping fans there are in the Dolphin community and I guess you really enjoy punishment because you are setting yourself to be disappointed by your boy once again.
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GRYPHONK said:
YOU TELL EM DOG!!!!!!!:chat:
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#84Fan4Life said:
We took ronnie because they will compliment each other. Read nicks transcripts. He's coming back so get over it. :yell:
#84Fan4Life said:
I think it is very sad that you have to come into every Ricky thread with your hollier than thou attitude. I'll bet almost anything you've made just as many mistakes as Ricky...and probably one's that have hurt more people realistically than some stupid football season realistically meant for entertainment. The fact you take this that personal is disturbing. Did it take food off your table? Hurt a relative?
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If Ricky didnt walk away, we finish 9-7 at best last year and get the 24th pick this year and not the 2nd! Hey wasnt that Rodgers? :roflmao:
With Williams back on the team, could we be talking playoffs next season?
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A&O said:
thats what i'm talking about. Its amazing how a good back makes your o line, qb and defense look so much better. Of course it all works hand and hand. :tongue: