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Nfl draft: Quality or quantity ?

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The smartest-drafting teams are often the most successful, but an eye for talent and a capacity to develop aren't the only factors. Coaches, GMs, and front offices need ammunition in order to acquire the most talent for their clubs each year.

So, which team is best positioned heading into the draft? It's a question of value vs. volume. Are the Titans, who sit at the top of every round, best equipped? There's a tremendous amount of value in being one of those teams picking really early on, sure. That's where the absolute top talent lives.

But, for the teams with keen scouting eyes, having a higher number of picks can mean they're stocking their team with depth for years to come, and they have some built-in allowance for errors. Does that mean the 49ers, with 12 total picks, are prepped to improve the most? Even if they only "hit" on six of their 12 picks, those six starters or key role players will be under club control for four years at bargain rates. Think about what that does for the health of your salary cap. The Titans, who have just eight picks, don't have that same margin for error. They've got to hit on closer to 100 percent of their picks.


The first round is notoriously rife with busts. First-round picks come with great expectations — with good cause, those picks are worth a lot according to the trade value chart — and there have been too many failures therein to even mention here. Some teams have had a lot of luck, others have had nothing but bad luck, and other teams are just bad when it comes to making their selections in that first round. It is undoubtedly still the most important round.


CASE FOR QUANTITY

Some of the best teams of the past five or 10 years employ a volume drafting strategy. Green Bay, Seattle, New England, Baltimore, Cincinnati, Denver and San Francisco tend to look to accumulate draft picks in order to build out the depth on their roster. The idea here is to try to stay out of the risky waters of big-time free agency and build a home-grown nucleus to depend on.

This season, you see a lot of those familiar names among the teams with the most total draft picks. The 49ers, despite a few down years, continue to employ the volume strategy and lead the NFL with 12 total picks. That haul includes one pick in the first, second and third rounds, two picks in the fourth, three picks in the fifth and four sixth-round picks. It skews toward the middle and late rounds, but Trent Baalke has the potential to add 12 talented players to his roster, filling out some starter positions while bolstering depth, both things San Francisco desperately needs.

Next up on that list is New England, with 11 total picks, which is pretty remarkable considering they had their first rounder taken from them in the Deflategate scandal. A big portion of their capital comes in the form of compensatory picks (four), and the Patriots' selections skew toward the back of the draft. Bill Belicheck and the Patriots scouting team will have the chance to make hay in the sixth (five picks) and seventh rounds (two picks).

The smartest-drafting teams are often the most successful, but an eye for talent and a capacity to develop aren't the only factors. Coaches, GMs, and front offices need ammunition in order to acquire the most talent for their clubs each year.


http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2016/4/...al-picks-every-team-jimmy-johnson-trade-chart
 
What good does a bunch of mediocre players do? Quality all day
 
The smartest-drafting teams are often the most successful, but an eye for talent and a capacity to develop aren't the only factors. Coaches, GMs, and front offices need ammunition in order to acquire the most talent for their clubs each year. So, which team is best positioned heading into the draft? It's a question of value vs. volume. Are the Titans, who sit at the top of every round, best equipped? There's a tremendous amount of value in being one of those teams picking really early on, sure. That's where the absolute top talent lives. But, for the teams with keen scouting eyes, having a higher number of picks can mean they're stocking their team with depth for years to come, and they have some built-in allowance for errors. Does that mean the 49ers, with 12 total picks, are prepped to improve the most? Even if they only "hit" on six of their 12 picks, those six starters or key role players will be under club control for four years at bargain rates. Think about what that does for the health of your salary cap. The Titans, who have just eight picks, don't have that same margin for error. They've got to hit on closer to 100 percent of their picks. The first round is notoriously rife with busts. First-round picks come with great expectations — with good cause, those picks are worth a lot according to the trade value chart — and there have been too many failures therein to even mention here. Some teams have had a lot of luck, others have had nothing but bad luck, and other teams are just bad when it comes to making their selections in that first round. It is undoubtedly still the most important round. CASE FOR QUANTITY Some of the best teams of the past five or 10 years employ a volume drafting strategy. Green Bay, Seattle, New England, Baltimore, Cincinnati, Denver and San Francisco tend to look to accumulate draft picks in order to build out the depth on their roster. The idea here is to try to stay out of the risky waters of big-time free agency and build a home-grown nucleus to depend on. This season, you see a lot of those familiar names among the teams with the most total draft picks. The 49ers, despite a few down years, continue to employ the volume strategy and lead the NFL with 12 total picks. That haul includes one pick in the first, second and third rounds, two picks in the fourth, three picks in the fifth and four sixth-round picks. It skews toward the middle and late rounds, but Trent Baalke has the potential to add 12 talented players to his roster, filling out some starter positions while bolstering depth, both things San Francisco desperately needs. Next up on that list is New England, with 11 total picks, which is pretty remarkable considering they had their first rounder taken from them in the Deflategate scandal. A big portion of their capital comes in the form of compensatory picks (four), and the Patriots' selections skew toward the back of the draft. Bill Belicheck and the Patriots scouting team will have the chance to make hay in the sixth (five picks) and seventh rounds (two picks). The smartest-drafting teams are often the most successful, but an eye for talent and a capacity to develop aren't the only factors. Coaches, GMs, and front offices need ammunition in order to acquire the most talent for their clubs each year. http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2016/4/...al-picks-every-team-jimmy-johnson-trade-chart
The obvious fly in the ointment is the (in)ability of a team to correctly evaluate quality. If the ability is there, fewer and higher picks are the better option. Realistically, few teams have that ability. For these teams, quantity may be the better option, although, 10 picks is R7 isn't how I would want 'quantity' to be addressed.
 
Quantity in players and quality in coaching, that would be my preference.
 
You are really "throwing darts" when it comes to the draft...so, give me "more darts!"
 
The inexact science of drafting has gotten less inexact over the last 5 or so years. There is a different impact between getting 3 starters who barely hold their starting position for 3 years vs. 1 franchise player who you can build a team around for a career.

Does anyone think Indy is sad they selected Andrew Luck instead of trading down for 3 mediocre starters? Not all starters are equal.

Look at the distribution of the All-Pro teams. There are a LOT more guys from round 1 than any other round. So if you want a player that can transform a team ... most likely you need to find him in the 1st round.

Where trading down is useful is when you don't have the option to draft an Earl Thomas or Andre Luck, so you can get multiple solid players instead of 1 solid player.

Quantity only works if everyone else mis-scouts the guy (like Derek Carr or Tom Brady), he is a gamble because of health (Gronkowski) or discipline (LaGarroutte Blount, Vontaze Burfict), or it is a boom/bust player that panned out. Guys like Patrick Peterson don't drop into round 5 very often.

Quantity does not provide more chances for equivalent players. It provides more chances for players of less potential on average. Quantity is about the bottom of the roster holes. Quality is about building a team that can win.

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RG3 rolls his eyes at you.

Dion pops up and does that creepy wheezing laugh that the goofy guy from the hangover movies

That's the major issue...u can't guarantee the pick is gonna pan out so quantity is the way to go percentage wise because you have the larger pool to pick the big fish, if u could guarantee the pick is a star obviously less and lower picks would be ideal, but busts exist alot
 
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If only it were that simple
 
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