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NFL Network Comment RE: Chip Kelly's Offense = Lazor Related??

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Hey all
So, just a quick snippet I caught on NFL Total Access this morning, I thought I'd pass it along.
They were talking about Chip Kelly's offensive struggles, how they are last in the league in rushing, and one of the hosts (I forget who) said that he had spoken to some of the former Eagles players. The players told him that Kelly's offense is a lot of smoke and mirrors, that the plays he runs are regular NFL plays but disguised by a lot of shifts and formations. The host seemed to think that the league had figured Kelly out now, and that the trickery with those shifts and formations were no longer effective, leading to the first two opponents' ability to shut down the Eagles running game almost completely. (DeMarco Murray has 19 carries for 11 yards in two games, or something close to that.)
Anyway, I am no X's and O's expert and I'll be the first to admit it, but the first thing that popped into my head was if Lazor and the Dolphins are running an offense similar to Kelly's, and the league has got Kelly figured out, it would be logical to assume they'd have us figured out as well. That would explain why our running game (like the Eagles) has been non-existent, and why two "sub-par" teams were really able to shut our offense down almost completely, or at least to a large extent render us ineffective. I just thought I would post this and see what other people thought.
Have a good one, everybody.
 
That's why hoops keeps saying that we must play quicker on offense. Rightfully so. Don't give the defense time to get set.
 
I am concerned that the LG is terrible, the fmr. LT was not ready physically to play, the new LT is getting destroyed, the RG is not physical enough and the second year RT is not off to a good start.

Plus, there is a physically strong guard or tackle on the bench that is a good run blocker.
 
Jesus Christ... Enough of this. We don't run Chip Kelley's Oregon offense. Chip Kelley doesn't even run his own offense because his QB isn't a legit run threat, which is why teams are able to key on the RB. Also, Kelley's offense is run first, last, and maybe use enough play action to keep defenses from stacking the box. We're basically the exact opposite. One thing we should be doing that we're not is going no huddle after a successful play and only huddling again when the defense manages to stop something in order to regroup.
 
The D has done diddly squat to help the O - like where are the sacks and takeaways? Field position is a big piece of this game - timely drops and our sacks penalties and miscues for sure but the odd TO wouldn't be too bad
 
DearbornDolfan said:
Jesus Christ... Enough of this. We don't run Chip Kelley's Oregon offense. Chip Kelley doesn't even run his own offense because his QB isn't a legit run threat, which is why teams are able to key on the RB. Also, Kelley's offense is run first, last, and maybe use enough play action to keep defenses from stacking the box. We're basically the exact opposite. One thing we should be doing that we're not is going no huddle after a successful play and only huddling again when the defense manages to stop something in order to regroup.
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Well, that's enlightening. That's why I posted this, hoping for constructive, knowledgeable feedback, Jesus Christ.
 
What concerns me is, I see Tannehill waiting for the defense to get set before he starts the snap count. I know he has to make his reads, but why not snap the ball before they get set? Catch them out of position. It just might get us that slight edge we need to get the run game going.
 
I have been very curious of what Chip Kelly's offensive would accomplish and look like this year, from his Mad Scientist approach and all the moves he has made. its been interesting to watch and see so far, and kind of what i was worried on for them.


but on our offense.... we have been running out of the shotgun often, and our running scheme has seemed to change up more into a read option offense out of the shotgun. I am not happy with this at all (i am biased a bit with a more old school offensive tack self i grew up with too). One reason i dislike this is due to I love pounding the ball out more with an aggressive OLine early and often... this style doesnt allow the OLine to go out and be as physical and aggressive in the run blocking, asserting and pushing the defensive front back early and often... not punching them in the mouth basically. im just seeing too much of this running aspect lately. Reason 2 has been stated by a few people, that defenses are learning how to stop this type of offense now, over past two years the read option has been copy cat, but dying out slowly... last year you saw teams who thrived on it, slowly lose that aspect of their offense. I dont think it fits us overly well.

otherwise we do use motion in our offense a lot, which i dont mind, it has helped us in aspects, getting good angles and match-ups. thats not the problem at all.


we need to be able to run block MUCH better, and run the ball consistently. we may be trying to use the run too much to open up our passing game more with scheme aspects, where I would rather do the opposite.
 
I think there are areas this offense works, but where it doesn't work is that it's apparently hard to find linemen intelligent enough to understand the scheme, and athletic enough to do what's required. I think there are times in football where if you make it too damn complicated, you have to do everything perfect every time or it blows up in your face. this offense leaves too much room for error. And I don't think I even saw one traditional line them up and run the ball last week. pathetic.
 
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