hoops
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you guys love to grab hold of average and paint it as something else...
NFL Network: Dolphins should stick with Matt Moore as QB
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you guys love to grab hold of average and paint it as something else...
mrbunglez
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It's funny you're probably the only one who thinks he can turn into a "franchise QB", even the coaches, everyone that's had him on there team and have seen him play up close and personal leave him either riding the pine or stating that finding a "franchise QB" is job #1. Who am I to believe you or the people who have actually worked with the guy? I pick the latter.....
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The best possible option for us, bearing in mind probability of success, cap room, draft picks etc. is to pick up Manning on a games-played basis and a solid draft prospect like Tannehill or Weeden. We cut Henne and Devlin and extend Moore. Sure there will be cheaper alternatives, but I just can't see us getting RG3 at a price that doesn't kill the team and Flynn will be a waste of money in my view given his likely ceiling.
If Peyton works out, then great. The rookie and Moore are waiting in the wings if he doesn't and it shouldn't cost us that much to abort mission. Moore steps in and Tannehill is groomed for a shot at long-term starter.
Of course it could go wrong. But it's the best risk-reward balance of the available options in my opinion.
If Peyton works out, then great. The rookie and Moore are waiting in the wings if he doesn't and it shouldn't cost us that much to abort mission. Moore steps in and Tannehill is groomed for a shot at long-term starter.
Of course it could go wrong. But it's the best risk-reward balance of the available options in my opinion.
Matt Moore is exactly the same as Matt Flynn... only difference is their last names.
I say we sign Drew Brees, if we cant get him then get cheap talent like a Chad Henne or Jason Campbell. Hopefully other teams that need QB's buy into the Manning and Flynn hype leaving the dolphins in better position to draft either Luck or RGIII (I wish).
I say we sign Drew Brees, if we cant get him then get cheap talent like a Chad Henne or Jason Campbell. Hopefully other teams that need QB's buy into the Manning and Flynn hype leaving the dolphins in better position to draft either Luck or RGIII (I wish).
I have an unusual suspicion that Tannenhill may be a target of ours. He went to Texas A&M, where our new offensive coordinator, Mike Sherman, came from. Going after Flynn in free agency, having Moore compete in camp, and drafting a rookie seems to be the most likely formula. We're not getting Luck or RGIII. We don't have the picks to make the trade up for either of those two, and we can't sacrifice our whole draft for any unproven guy that high up. Tannenhill at 9 isn't that far fetched right now either. An NFL Network mock draft had him at 6 to the Redskins, which I think is a bit crazy anyway, but apparently he's moving up some draft boards. Something to keep an eye on and continue speculating about for the next month until we get some free agent action. So glad there isn't a lock out this year!!!
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every year we dont adress qb is a wasted year for the franchise.
not saying Moore cant start next year, but I would rather get a young guy with potential in. It will be tough to trade up for RG3, but that would solve qb problems for the next 10 plus years.
If we go with Flynn, at least he has the potential to be a long term starter, though he is much less of a sure thing than RG3 imo. Just a lot cheaper and easier to acquire.
If we get Manning, we better get a young qb to pair with him. I say trade back 5 or so picks and pick up Tannehill in that situation. Tannehill, though not projected to go in the first, will go in the first. Qbs jump up boards on draft day. You want a qb with potential, you got to pay.
not saying Moore cant start next year, but I would rather get a young guy with potential in. It will be tough to trade up for RG3, but that would solve qb problems for the next 10 plus years.
If we go with Flynn, at least he has the potential to be a long term starter, though he is much less of a sure thing than RG3 imo. Just a lot cheaper and easier to acquire.
If we get Manning, we better get a young qb to pair with him. I say trade back 5 or so picks and pick up Tannehill in that situation. Tannehill, though not projected to go in the first, will go in the first. Qbs jump up boards on draft day. You want a qb with potential, you got to pay.
I watched him. He looked like a damn good backup QB and transitional starter, a guy a team can count on while their franchise QB is healing or being groomed. If people think he's the answer, it's only because he's looked a little better than what we've had here over the past decade (minus Pennington and even Fiedler, who he reminds me of more than anybody).
hoops
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good luck getting drew brees away from new orleans...another 0.0 percent chance
For those who think Moore should be our starter this coming year can I remind you of three games that come to mind, Dallas when one first down would have won the game for us, Denver, any kind of drive in the 4th quarter would have won that one, and the Super Bowl champion New York Giants, we had a chance to win that one with a few first downs. Maybe Moore can improve his accuracy, but I just don't see it. The differences in the top ten QB's seem to me to be ball placement, cool under fire, and leadership, not any of Moore's strongest quality's.
Your opinion really doesn't concern me.
By my count, COLUMBO's crapola job of psass-protection cost us at least 6 stalled drives in EACH of those games. And, of course, against DALLAS, his farce-like attempt to even get a hold on a certain DALLAS pass-rushing star directly resulted in a MOORE fumble at our 8 Yard Line. You are one of the blind/deaf/dumb homey scapegoat seekers that I was talking about. Try thinking, and not just parroting the "conventional wisdom".
I'm not saying that he'll be another MANNING (either one), or BRADY, or ROGERS, or BREES. But right now, I'd take him over FLACCO or RIVERS, both of whom are overrated, i/m/o. He's MORE than T DILFER ever hoped to be, and DILFER has something MARINO doesn't: a SB Ring. Distinguish between "elite" (best ever-types, like BRADY, P MANNING, MARINO, UNITAS, etc.) and "franchise", when you're talking about QBs.
You don't have to be the second Son of God to be a "franchise" QB. I've already mentioned FLACCO and RIVERS. I wouldn't call P SIMMS elite, but i/m/o he was a franchise QB.
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that works cause anyone who takes matt moore over philip rivers is a little off his a game...and frankly is wasting my time
WTF are you talking about? Fumbles don't matter? His fumbles in the Denver, Dallas, and New England game are the main reason we lost. Position to score???, we scored 21 points a game and he barely averaged a TD pass a game. Averaging less than 200 yards a game doesn't matter?!?!!?....when the game is on the line and time and time again he couldn't make a pass to win the game? "Stats are worthless without context", that is the funniest $%#t I have heard in a while from a QB who the only thing he has to stand on is a stat (QBR) that doesn't even take into consideration a big reason why we lost games (Moore's fumble's and inability to move the ball at end of games). There is your "context".
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i'll agree that philip rivers is overrated...but taking matt moore over him...is just laughable
go to any nfl team with that nonsense and see how long it takes before they escort you out the building in a straight jacket...
go to any nfl team with that nonsense and see how long it takes before they escort you out the building in a straight jacket...