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NFL QB's with FEWER College Starts than Tannehill

SeanSmith24 said:
only garbage qb on that list is sanchez, and at one point sanchez was a decent qb so thats not a bad list to look at
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dont know what nfl you've been watching, but flacco is trash as well as cassel. for every good game flacco has, he has 4 horrible ones... just sayin
 
He also has 18 games experience in a pro style offense where as some rookie qb's have none.
 
Vontae21 said:
dont know what nfl you've been watching, but flacco is trash as well as cassel. for every good game flacco has, he has 4 horrible ones... just sayin
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i dont know what football youve been watching but flacco is a good qb, not elite not hall of fame but his pretty good, hes gotten 3,000 yards passing every year since hes been in the league with double digits td


stats dont lie
http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/11252/joe-flacco
 
TheWalrus said:
Do you even bother to think about **** before you post it? Tannehill won 13 games.

Sanchez won 14. Cam Newton won 14. Flynn won 10. Flacco doesn't count because he started 26 games at Delaware.

Here's this for a thought experiment, big guy. I'll give you the win loss records of four quarterbacks their last three years in college, you tell me which one you want.

Quarterback A: 33-14
Quarterback B: 40-9
Quarterback C: 11-34

Quarterback A is Chad Henne. Quarterback B is none other than Pat White.

Quarterback C? Jay Cutler.

Just for ****s and giggles, here's one more. He led his team to only one winning season and compiled a 15-18 record his last three years in college. His name?

John Elway.
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Why are people always using Cutler as an example that college win/loss records are meaninless? He has a 41-37 record in the NFL and has one playoff win in his career. He has two seasons over .500. If anything he's an example that college win/loss records ARE important.
 
The nice thing for Tannehill is that unlike the other QBs on the list he gets to go to a NFL team that has his Texas A&M head coach as the OC and his QB coach he got to work with at A&M. Also, he doesn't have to learn a complete new system, so it should be a much smoother transition. Tannehill has a lot of advantages that those other players did not.
 
TheWalrus said:
Do you even bother to think about **** before you post it? Tannehill won 13 games.

Sanchez won 14. Cam Newton won 14. Flynn won 10. Flacco doesn't count because he started 26 games at Delaware.

Here's this for a thought experiment, big guy. I'll give you the win loss records of four quarterbacks their last three years in college, you tell me which one you want.

Quarterback A: 33-14
Quarterback B: 40-9
Quarterback C: 11-34

Quarterback A is Chad Henne. Quarterback B is none other than Pat White.

Quarterback C? Jay Cutler.

Just for ****s and giggles, here's one more. He led his team to only one winning season and compiled a 15-18 record his last three years in college. His name?

John Elway.
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I was only looking at his last season where we won 6 games. The season before he also won 6 games, I'm not 100% sure where he got the 13th.
 
roy_miami said:
Why are people always using Cutler as an example that college win/loss records are meaninless? He has a 41-37 record in the NFL and has one playoff win in his career. He has two seasons over .500. If anything he's an example that college win/loss records ARE important.
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Cutler was also a one man team at Vandy, they had no one else.

I expected him to light up the NFL but he has not been blessed with playing for great teams.
 
LikeUntoGod said:
I was only looking at his last season where we won 6 games. The season before he also won 6 games, I'm not 100% sure where he got the 13th.
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They won a 7th game last season in a bowlgame. During the season Texas A & M only beat two teams with winning records.
 
LikeUntoGod said:
And almost all of them have won twice as many games as Tannehill.

Think about that................


P.S. It is now how many games you have played in, it is how many of those you have won.
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Okay, fair enough: I thought about that and the answer is a resounding "NO" !!! It's obvious that you opportunistically jump in to rain on any positive T-hill post where possible. That's your prerogative so it's kewl.

But no, it is NOT necessarily how many you win if you get little support along the way. Just ask Archie Manning in the pros or Jay Cutler at Vanderbilt who went 11-35 including 5-27 vs the SEC!!! Hell, while you're at it, check in with Karl Malone or Charles Barkley too. Conversely, last I looked prodigious college winners including Colt Brennan, Ken Dorsey, Matt Lienart and Graham Harrell didn't exactly set the NFL on fire, did they?

Not exactly apples to apples considering most of those listed were playing (or sitting like Cassell) for far superior teams. Also don't forget that Sanchez's former NFL HC opined that he wasn't ready for prime time but T-Hill's did or that 10 additional USC players were drafted that season (4 more in first 56) vs 3 for the Aggies, the first 1 being a kicker in round 5. ... or that Flynn's LSU team won the SEC and BCS championships. Oh and last I looked, Auburn seemed to have have won some sort of title or another, didn't they?
 
nublar7 said:
the nice thing for tannehill is that unlike the other qbs on the list he gets to go to a nfl team that has his texas a&m head coach as the oc and his qb coach he got to work with at a&m. Also, he doesn't have to learn a complete new system, so it should be a much smoother transition. Tannehill has a lot of advantages that those other players did not.
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huge plus
 
Vaark said:
Okay, fair enough: I thought about that and the answer is a resounding "NO" !!! It's obvious that you opportunistically jump in to rain on any positive T-hill post where possible. That's your prerogative so it's kewl.

But no, it is NOT necessarily how many you win if you get little support along the way. Just ask Archie Manning in the pros or Jay Cutler at Vanderbilt who went 11-35 including 5-27 vs the SEC!!! Hell, while you're at it, check in with Karl Malone or Charles Barkley too. Conversely, last I looked prodigious college winners including Colt Brennan, Ken Dorsey, Matt Lienart and Graham Harrell didn't exactly set the NFL on fire, did they?

Not exactly apples to apples considering most of those listed were playing (or sitting like Cassell) for far superior teams. Also don't forget that Sanchez's former NFL HC opined that he wasn't ready for prime time but T-Hill's did or that 10 additional USC players were drafted that season (4 more in first 56) vs 3 for the Aggies, the first 1 being a kicker in round 5. ... or that Flynn's LSU team won the SEC and BCS championships. Oh and last I looked, Auburn seemed to have have won some sort of title or another, didn't they?
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Exactly.

I was not a Cam Fan due to his time at U of Fl but he did win a Jr college championship and then followed it up in the toughest conference in football with another Championship. Matt Flynn did the same, he was never considered a great QB but what I said when he was drafted was all he did was win football games. And as important, he rarely if ever LOST a game.

Sanchez is a perfect example of a QB who needed more experience, was drafted maybe "too early", and played/started in the NFL too soon.

Jet fans love to tell us how he "took them" to the playoffs but he had a worse season stat wise then Tim Tebow did his first season as a starter. For two years the Jets protected Sanchez with a strong running game and made the playoffs, the first time they decided to try to win on his arm they went 8-8 (last season).

Per attempt wise (which is the way I look at stats) Tim Tebow clearly outplayed Sanchez last season but you cannot get a Jet fan to admit it.

IMO, another probelm with Sanchez is that he had everything including the starting QB spot with the Jets given to him.

I wanted us to make a move and draft Jay Cutler when he came out but we had wasted outr 2nd pick on a player that was going to be relesed anyway (Culpoopper) Cutler was a one man team at Vandy. Vandy will never have great sports teams because their standards are too high.
 
I tought Tom Brady wasn't a very successfull collage QB? Can someone please elaborate?
 
So, if we agree that college wins have nothing to with how good a QB is, can we agree once and for all that NFL wins have the exact same bearing on the quality of a QB? That's ZERO.

Flacco is about average, maybe slightly above. Cassell is definitely below average.
 
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