NFL Salary Cap- A Closer Look

[So Be]

There are many posts on who the Dolphins should be signing and for how much. I think there are some who do not follow the cap, and how much things have changed.

Just a few short years ago, the salary cap was at $123M. Then, the new TV deals kicked in. The cap has risen $10M a year and is projected to be over $150M this year. That is not the end of it. In 2017, it projects to be $160M, 2018 at $170M, 2019 at at $180M, and 2020 at $190M. At this point it is expected to level off. Not saying this will definitely happen but, it does appear to be likely. That's a whole lotta more money for teams to spend on players.

Add in that the new CBA forces teams to spend 90% of that over 4 years. The cheap teams of the past can no longer be cheap. This additional spending depletes the FA market as teams keep their own or, now become players.

When the Dolphins are sorting out who and how much to play, this most definitely comes into play. The new 5 year deals have to take this into consideration as the increase increase what any team can spend and guarantee in the future. The "elite" $10M a year deals are no longer elite.

Something to think about in what our team will be doing this year with OV, Miller, etc. The price of poker has gone up.

 

[fisi]

The only have is if Miami really want OV and Miller back. This team is in such a good shape that they could cut or release so many players without creating a big hole, for instance Dion and Cameron Jordan. They could also release Grimes and not feel it much. Because these guys are not that good to begin with plus the draft is full of good corners. They could find a starting corner in the 3rd or fourth rds. OV I don't really care if he left, Demontre Moore is as good as OV. Lamar Miller can be easily replaced by a rookie and Jay train. I mean this team is in such a good state financially, no players could force their hands. No more Suh type deals. and if OV and Miller leaves, Miami gets two 3rd picks next year for both.

 

[Danny]

The only have is if Miami really want OV and Miller back. This team is in such a good shape that they could cut or release so many players without creating a big hole, for instance Dion and Cameron Jordan. They could also release Grimes and not feel it much. Because these guys are not that good to begin with plus the draft is full of good corners. They could find a starting corner in the 3rd or fourth rds. OV I don't really care if he left, Demontre Moore is as good as OV. Lamar Miller can be easily replaced by a rookie and Jay train. I mean this team is in such a good state financially, no players could force their hands. No more Suh type deals. and if OV and Miller leaves, Miami gets two 3rd picks next year for both.

Why would we get a couple of 3rd round picks for them? What are you talking about?

Ozzy rules

 

[So Be]

if OV and Miller leaves, Miami gets two 3rd picks next year for both.

Don't hold your breath on a comp pick, let alone two. They start after the 3rd round, like an early 4th, and is a very complicated process to give them. The NFL looks at what ya lost, what ya gained, the money, and how each player played next year. I'll be very surprised if we get anything other than maybe a 6th or a 7th.

 

[fisi]

Why would we get a couple of 3rd round picks for them? What are you talking about?

Ozzy rules

My assumption is that someone is going to grossly overpay Miller and OV. Dallas for Miller and NO or Giants for OV. If they did, Miami will get serious comps for both assuming we don't go out and overpay for any player in this offseason.

 

[ChrisEAS]

Damontre Moore as good as OV? I never saw the guy play.

 

[Kingdom Come]

Damontre Moore as good as OV? I never saw the guy play.

Actually you can't make a statement like that if we are running a 4-3 but if the Dolphins run a base 3-4 Moore might make a good OLB, but OV is a proven elite football player.

 

[Kingdom Come]

There are many posts on who the Dolphins should be signing and for how much. I think there are some who do not follow the cap, and how much things have changed.

Just a few short years ago, the salary cap was at $123M. Then, the new TV deals kicked in. The cap has risen $10M a year and is projected to be over $150M this year. That is not the end of it. In 2017, it projects to be $160M, 2018 at $170M, 2019 at at $180M, and 2020 at $190M. At this point it is expected to level off. Not saying this will definitely happen but, it does appear to be likely. That's a whole lotta more money for teams to spend on players.

Add in that the new CBA forces teams to spend 90% of that over 4 years. The cheap teams of the past can no longer be cheap. This additional spending depletes the FA market as teams keep their own or, now become players.

When the Dolphins are sorting out who and how much to play, this most definitely comes into play. The new 5 year deals have to take this into consideration as the increase increase what any team can spend and guarantee in the future. The "elite" $10M a year deals are no longer elite.

Something to think about in what our team will be doing this year with OV, Miller, etc. The price of poker has gone up.

Excellent point. I am not opposed to spending a ton on elite players, it is when we give a ship load full of money to guys like Tannehill and Pouncey that bothers me. If they really believe that OV will be just as effective standing up and playing OLB in a 3-4 then sure sign him to a 6 year 78 million dollar deal with a miniscule cap number in 2016, but if they have doubts about his ability to play OLB they should let him walk and draft Emanuel Ogbah and James Cowser.

I have posted about Suh's contract option that allows the Dolphins to defer his money down the road and reduce his cap number next year to as low as 11 mil about twenty times but people still don't get it. Quinton Coples being released is a forgone conclusion and Suh's cap number won't be anywhere near 28 mil next year. There is no cap hell!!!!! It is mirage.

 

[Travis34]

Always good to think about. It'll keep going up for awhile.

 

[Danny]

My assumption is that someone is going to grossly overpay Miller and OV. Dallas for Miller and NO or Giants for OV. If they did, Miami will get serious comps for both assuming we don't go out and overpay for any player in this offseason.

The NFL only gives comp picks in the 3rd round to the pats...we never get ****.....and expect us to bring in more free agents than we lose so we might not get anything

Ozzy rules

 

[So Be]

http://www.businessinsider.com/ndamukong-suh-contract-miami-dolphins-2015-3

This is a VG read on Suh's contract with figures on a restructure this year which I posted last year. IMO, the restructure makes no sense for the future of this team. I do not see the need to do anything this year but, to take the $28M hit. The author points out that guaranteed money is over with in 2017 when the hit is reduced to $15M. We would still be on the hook for the prorated bonus of $5M a year, $10M in 2018 but that's it.

Suh will be 31 in 2018, and we would have options of a brand new deal with guarantees, trading or cutting him. As you can see in the chart, we do not have any option if we do what many think we now should.

I do not see any need as we can free up $40M or so with doing nothing. A restructure now would be a mistake.

 

[SCLSU Mud Dogs]

I'd much rather keep Miller than OV.

 

[SCLSU Mud Dogs]

The only have is if Miami really want OV and Miller back. This team is in such a good shape that they could cut or release so many players without creating a big hole, for instance Dion and Cameron Jordan. They could also release Grimes and not feel it much. Because these guys are not that good to begin with plus the draft is full of good corners. They could find a starting corner in the 3rd or fourth rds. OV I don't really care if he left, Demontre Moore is as good as OV. Lamar Miller can be easily replaced by a rookie and Jay train. I mean this team is in such a good state financially, no players could force their hands. No more Suh type deals. and if OV and Miller leaves, Miami gets two 3rd picks next year for both.

1. Demontre Moore is nowhere near as good as OV. If he was so good, don't you think the Giants would have kept him with an injured JPP?

2. Jay Ajayi has also not showed that he is anywhere close to Lamar Miller yet.

What made you come to either of those completely baseless conclusions?

 

[So Be]

I'd much rather keep Miller than OV.

I want to keep both. With long term deals they can cost a combined $8M which is easily affordable.

 

[SCLSU Mud Dogs]

I want to keep both. With long term deals they can cost a combined $8M which is easily affordable.

You realize that OV will probably be seeking a contract north of $10 million per season? And Miami would be lucky to get Miller at $5 million per season.