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Nick Saban : "Welcome To The NFL"......

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Is that Steve Spurrier I hear chuckling in the background????....

After what could possibly go down as one of the weakest efforts by a team in Phinz franchise history, and losing 6 of the last 7 games, it's becoming painfully clear what kind of heach coach we have here in Miami.....

A confused, outmatched, and completely shellshocked one....

Everything was going so well, and then the bottom fell out. These things usually happen as the result of a team who has lost it's identity. The Miami Dolphins have no identity, not on offense or defense....

It had an identity during the first three weeks of the season, but then it decided to take a vacation. We're still waiting for it to return. Where are you, and when are you coming back????....

The defense is also primarily to blame for this fall from grace too. Remember what this defense looked like during wins over Denver / Carolina???....That was not the same defense we've been seeing since the BYE week passed us. We can't stop anyone, nobody, not even the Browns back-up QB's. Our defense, in not so many words, is just as bad as our offense....

Bottom Line : There has been no improvent on either side of the ball since Saban has arrived. And whatever this team once had coming into the start of the season, was gone like a fart in the wind after only three weeks of football. They couldn't build on what they had in place when they were 2-1{first place}, and sitting at 3-7 is now the result of that....

I feel sorry for you Nick, you're being outcoached every week, and yet you still preach that "we're close". Well Nick, sorry, but we're not close, and after watching this team play over these last 7 weeks, anyone who would agree with you, obviously has no knowledge of the game itself....

Oh, by the way..."Welcome to the NFL".

PHINZ RULE!!!!
 
As sad as it is to say, we would not have been shut out with Gus Frerotte at the helm.. :(
 
I think the problem is that Saban is magically trying to make the team believe it's good when even he privately believes it isn't, and the players know that on some level, which doesn't inspire a whole lot of confidence.
 
I STILL think it's early to slam Saban. You have to see he's only coached 10 games in the NFL. He doesn't have the talent he wants in place yet, this his first year taking over a 4-12 miserable team last year. While i agree that the defense has gotten worse, it's not like they are a young bunch out there. These are aging veterans who are now breaking down with injuries that nag them each and every week. Offensively i think we are drastically better. But still nowhere near good enough to be a 500 football team. I think Saban will fix these things, but he needs more than 10 games for us to call him Steve Spurrier.
 
Well how many coaches do well their first year in the league?
Bill Walsh was 1-15 his first season.
So was Jimmy Johnson.
Steve Mariucci struggled his first season, then got it together.
Some guys never get it together out of college, while some do well a couple of seasons into their careers.
It's too early to determine one way or the other about Saban. Give the man some time to install "his" players and "his" schemes. We won't get a good idea for quite some time.

EDIT:
And the coaches he's gone against:
Mike Shannahan (2 superbowls)
Herman Edwards (fairly successful coach)
John Fox (1 superbowl)
Mike Mularky (ok..I can't say much good about him)
John Gruden (1 superbowl)
Dick Vermiel (2 superbowls)
Jim Haslett (ok...he doesn't seem good)
Jim Mora Jr (went to NFC championship his 1st year as HC after several years as a DC)
Bill Bellichek<sp> (3 superbowls as HC...a couple as a DC)
Romeo Crennel (3 superbowls as DC...a couple more as an assistant)

Pretty good legacy of coaches he's gone up against. 12 combined superbowls between the 10 opponents.
 
nlp0121 said:
Well how many coaches do well their first year in the league?
Bill Walsh was 1-15 his first season.
So was Jimmy Johnson.
Steve Mariucci struggled his first season, then got it together.
Some guys never get it together out of college, while some do well a couple of seasons into their careers.
It's too early to determine one way or the other about Saban. Give the man some time to install "his" players and "his" schemes. We won't get a good idea for quite some time.
Saban will be OK in the end. His best strength IMO is that he learns quickly and learns from his own mistakes.
 
Maybe Saban should have borrowed Harry Potters magic wand huh? That would have taken this team to the superbowl this year. :rolleyes:
 
BLITZKRIEG said:
I feel sorry for you Nick, you're being outcoached every week, and yet you still preach that "we're close". Well Nick, sorry, but we're not close, and after watching this team play over these last 7 weeks, anyone who would agree with you, obviously has no knowledge of the game itself...

and I feel sorry for you, and the rest of you who think success in the NFL is so simple that you can dismantle and rebuild a SB contender when it has taken years to get into this condition.

Saban can flat out coach.

on a side note, I wouldn't expect more then an 8-8 season next yr either.
 
nlp0121 said:
Well how many coaches do well their first year in the league?
Bill Walsh was 1-15 his first season.
So was Jimmy Johnson.
Steve Mariucci struggled his first season, then got it together.
Some guys never get it together out of college, while some do well a couple of seasons into their careers.
It's too early to determine one way or the other about Saban. Give the man some time to install "his" players and "his" schemes. We won't get a good idea for quite some time.

EDIT:
And the coaches he's gone against:
Mike Shannahan (2 superbowls)
Herman Edwards (fairly successful coach)
John Fox (1 superbowl)
Mike Mularky (ok..I can't say much good about him)
John Gruden (1 superbowl)
Dick Vermiel (2 superbowls)
Jim Haslett (ok...he doesn't seem good)
Jim Mora Jr (went to NFC championship his 1st year as HC after several years as a DC)
Bill Bellichek<sp> (3 superbowls as HC...a couple as a DC)
Romeo Crennel (3 superbowls as DC...a couple more as an assistant)

Pretty good legacy of coaches he's gone up against. 12 combined superbowls between the 10 opponents.

see the only times coaches do great in thier first year...is if they inherrit a good team...Mora got a play-off ready team...it wasnt the old coaches fault that Vick got hurt and the team lost moral...Nick has inherited a team on the spiral of death...and it would be a shame that zach and JT just might retire without a chamopionship but its true...we wont see the play-offs for 2 years
 
plc001 said:
and I feel sorry for you, and the rest of you who think success in the NFL is so simple that you can dismantle and rebuild a SB contender when it has taken years to get into this condition.

Where did I say success in the NFL is simple??....

I just want the Phinz to play like a well coached football team. Well??....

This team couldn't find it's way out of a wet paper bag right now....

Saban can flat out coach.

That remains to be seen. He's been hyped as one of the best, but hype doesn't mean anything when you're sitting at 3-7.....
 
shouright said:
Saban will be OK in the end. His best strength IMO is that he learns quickly and learns from his own mistakes.

Just curious, where have you seen this demonstrated at this level.
He has yet to correct the mistake of not relying on his ground game in the red zone.
 
all this from a guy who thought starting Sage was a good idea. :lol:
 
plc001 said:
and I feel sorry for you, and the rest of you who think success in the NFL is so simple that you can dismantle and rebuild a SB contender when it has taken years to get into this condition.

Saban can flat out coach.

on a side note, I wouldn't expect more then an 8-8 season next yr either.


If he was as special a coach as was rumored, we would not have gotten totally cornholed by the Cleveland Browns.
 
msg said:
all this from a guy who thought starting Sage was a good idea. :lol:

It was a good idea. Now we know what we have / don't have.....

I was happy Saban decided to start Sage yesterday, and I'm still happy he started him today. Now there's no need for a controversy.....

PHINZ RULE!!!!
 
Superself said:
If he was as special a coach as was rumored, we would not have gotten totally cornholed by the Cleveland Browns.

Yeah...because well coached teams never have bad games :rolleyes:

Not defending him...just saying that's a flimsy argument.

Jim Bates beat Bill Bellichek <sp> last year...it means nothing singularly...but you gotta look at the whole...and we don't know what that is yet...
 
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