No, at $20 million, Miami Dolphins QB Ryan Tannehill isn’t overpaid

[DKphin]

Do I think we could be in a far worse position with lack of talent at the QB position in the league? Yes. Does the talent around him effect his play more than the elite QBs in the league i.e. Brady or Rogers? Yes. Is his talent average to slightly above average? Yes. Did he deserve the contract he was given based on his production? Hell No!

Quarterback Ryan Tannehill of the Miami Dolphins passes against the Baltimore Ravens at M&T Bank Stadium on December 4, 2016. (Photo by Rob Carr/Getty Images)

When he sits down for dinner tonight, Ryan Tannehill will officially know that he’ll officially make just shy of $18 million this season, and when factoring in a prorated signing bonus, his salary cap hit will exceed $20 million.
TWENTY MILLION DOLLARS? For Ryan-freaking-Tannehill?
Well, yes.
And from the Dolphins perspective, thank Goodness.
Just look at the New York Jets.
Does one think the Jets might like to be the team fully guaranteeing $14.475 million of Tannehill’s salary on this first Monday of free agency?

Well, among the Jets’ current quarterback options are signing back a quarterback who was once punched in the face by a teammate (Geno Smith). Or, they could sign a career backup in Chase Daniel (which actually wouldn’t be a terrible move.)

Or they could sign career malcontent Jay Cutler, which would be… well, you know.

When you don’t have a quarterback in the NFL, you don’t have a chance.

Everyone knows it. Everyone admits it. Everyone acts in desperate ways to trade up at the NFL Draft for a quarterback like Robert Griffin III, who flamed out, is back on the scrap heap, and would love to be signed by… the New York Jets.

Tannehill is an ascending player. Tannehill is an improving player.
And guess what? Tannehill gives the Dolphins a chance (in 2017, and ’18, ’19 and ’20, when the cap hits are similarly manageable).
A chance to do what? To win playoff games. And Miami would have had a better chance at Pittsburgh in Adam Gase’s first season, if not for an untimely knee injury to Tannehill.

Before last season, and even in the first quarter of last season, fans began using the calculators on their iPhones to calculate what the dead cap space would be if and when Tannehill were released after the season.

Then, something happened.
Tannehill got more comfortable. And the team started winning. And winning. And eventually, the iPhones were put away.

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[uk_dolfan]

Obviously. It was never a top tier qb contract and is very team friendly.

 

[Kdawg954]

Do I think we could be in a far worse position with lack of talent at the QB position in the league? Yes. Does the talent around him effect his play more than the elite QBs in the league i.e. Brady or Rogers? Yes. Is his talent average to slightly above average? Yes. Did he deserve the contract he was given based on his production? Hell No!

You do realize the year before he signed he was coming off 27 TDs, 12 INTs, 4000 yards passing, 66.4% completion rate and a 92.8 QB rating? Last time I checked, that is pretty damn good. Imagine if he had an actual redzone threat that year (and a better coach).

Not even factoring that, the QB position is more about potential/future than what have you done for me lately. There is a reason why Brock Osweiller can get 4/72 million without really doing **** for 4 years.

This contract was ALWAYS a great deal. From dollars and cents to the way it was structured.

Mike Tannenbaum got this very right . . . its about time some of you acknowledge it since you want to always acknowledge everything he has done wrong.

 

[Daytona Fin]

 

[Kingdom Come]

He is getting paid like a top 5 QB and he has never been ranked higher than 15th. He is ranked in between Andy Dalton and Alex Smith who are both getting millions less. His cap hit is right in the neighborhood of Brady and Rogers.

This is gross mismanagement on the part of our FO. It's pathetic they couldn't have negotiated a better deal for a mediocre QB who had never been to the playoffs.

Both Tannehill and Pouncey should be restructuring right now and taking a big paycut, Three and two million at least respectively.

Right there is your first year cap hit for a Landry extension.

 

[uk_dolfan]

You do realize the year before he signed he was coming off 27 TDs, 12 INTs, 4000 yards passing, 66.4% completion rate and a 92.8 QB rating? Last time I checked, that is pretty damn good. Imagine if he had an actual redzone threat that year (and a better coach).

Not even factoring that, the QB position is more about potential/future than what have you done for me lately. There is a reason why Brock Osweiller can get 4/72 million without really doing **** for 4 years.

This contract was ALWAYS a great deal. From dollars and cents to the way it was structured.

Mike Tannenbaum got this very right . . . its about time some of you acknowledge it since you want to always acknowledge everything he has done wrong.

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He is getting paid like a top 5 QB and he has never been ranked higher than 15th. He is ranked in between Andy Dalton and Alex Smith who are both getting millions less. His cap hit is right in the neighborhood of Brady and Rogers.

This is gross mismanagement on the part of our FO. It's pathetic they couldn't have negotiated a better deal for a mediocre QB who had never been to the playoffs.

Both Tannehill and Pouncey should be restructuring right now and taking a big paycut, Three and two million at least respectively.

Right there is your first year cap hit for a Landry extension.

I needed a laugh today, thank you


fun fact! Tom Brady has a base salary of $1,000,000 this year, maybe not a comparison you want to make.

 

[MD]

He is getting paid like a top 5 QB and he has never been ranked higher than 15th. He is ranked in between Andy Dalton and Alex Smith who are both getting millions less. His cap hit is right in the neighborhood of Brady and Rogers.

This is gross mismanagement on the part of our FO. It's pathetic they couldn't have negotiated a better deal for a mediocre QB who had never been to the playoffs.

Both Tannehill and Pouncey should be restructuring right now and taking a big paycut, Three and two million at least respectively.

Right there is your first year cap hit for a Landry extension.

His annual pay is 14th amongst his peers and with the fast rising cap salaries are rising as well.

Brady purposely keeps his salary down to give the Pats more room. Rogers averages 2.5 mil per year and recently commented its time to redo his contract.

 

[Yessir]

One things for certain, Tannehill has nearly everything a in prime quarterback can ask for in terms of the surrounding pieces offensively for him to be successful. One more serviceable/competent guard and you're talking about near perfection. He's got the play makers on the outside, the seam busting, red zone threat of tight end, the beastly pro bowl running back who never goes down on first contact, who will help limit his exposure.

What more can you ask for? If health permits with everyone, there's really no excuse for him not to have a prolific Pro Bowl/All-Pro caliber season.

And i'm talking about much better than the 1.4 TD's a game he had last year, that some on here were trying to peddle as "TOP 10" caliber lol.

 

[Kdawg954]

He is getting paid like a top 5 QB and he has never been ranked higher than 15th. He is ranked in between Andy Dalton and Alex Smith who are both getting millions less. His cap hit is right in the neighborhood of Brady and Rogers.

This is gross mismanagement on the part of our FO. It's pathetic they couldn't have negotiated a better deal for a mediocre QB who had never been to the playoffs.

Both Tannehill and Pouncey should be restructuring right now and taking a big paycut, Three and two million at least respectively.

Right there is your first year cap hit for a Landry extension.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/average/quarterback/

Had we waited until this year, after his 5th year option, he would be right near Andrew Luck.

 

[Kdawg954]

One things for certain, Tannehill has nearly everything a in prime quarterback can ask for in terms of the surrounding pieces offensively for him to be successful. One more serviceable/competent guard and you're talking about near perfection. He's got the play makers on the outside, the seam busting, red zone threat of tight end, the beastly pro bowl running back who never goes down on first contact, who will help limit his exposure.

What more can you ask for? If health permits with everyone, there's really no excuse for him not to have a prolific Pro Bowl/All-Pro caliber season.

And i'm talking about much better than the 1.4 TD's a game he had last year, that some on here were trying to peddle as "TOP 10" caliber lol.

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He is not where he can be and people will still be critical of that. That 1.4 TDs a game definitely has to go up in 2017. I appreciate the constant work he has put in to become a better QB though and I think he has the coach and the surrounding pieces to really make a big jump (which I think we were on the cusp of seeing before he went down). There won't be this system adjustment at the beginning of the season. If the knee is good, truly I'd be pretty damn surprised if he wasn't one of the top 10 QBs in the NFL in 2017.

Where people always wanted to default blame to the offensive line, I have always felt it was a shared accountability between poor offensive line and poor pocket awareness/movement from Ryan. Last year you saw an improved (but not great) offensive line and an improved (but not all the way there) Ryan Tannehill with his movement and pocket awareness. Fingers crossed for similar bumps up from both.

 

[Vaark]

One things for certain, Tannehill has nearly everything a in prime quarterback can ask for in terms of the surrounding pieces offensively for him to be successful. One more serviceable/competent guard and you're talking about near perfection. He's got the play makers on the outside, the seam busting, red zone threat of tight end, the beastly pro bowl running back who never goes down on first contact, who will help limit his exposure.

What more can you ask for? If health permits with everyone, there's really no excuse for him not to have a prolific Pro Bowl/All-Pro caliber season.

And i'm talking about much better than the 1.4 TD's a game he had last year, that some on here were trying to peddle as "TOP 10" caliber lol.

Relatively speaking, that's certainly more credible than the assertion of those who have tried to depict him as a "Bottom 10" caliber QB :up:

 

[miamiron]

. His cap hit is right in the neighborhood of Brady and Rogers.
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Brady's cap hit is $14 million while Tannehill's is $20 million...big neighborhood

 

[The Ghost]

He's well above average in terms of overall talent. Not slightly. I'd also say his arm talent alone is up there with some of the best not named Rodgers.

 

[DuderinoN703]

He is getting paid like a top 5 QB and he has never been ranked higher than 15th. He is ranked in between Andy Dalton and Alex Smith who are both getting millions less. His cap hit is right in the neighborhood of Brady and Rogers.

This is gross mismanagement on the part of our FO. It's pathetic they couldn't have negotiated a better deal for a mediocre QB who had never been to the playoffs.

Both Tannehill and Pouncey should be restructuring right now and taking a big paycut, Three and two million at least respectively.

Right there is your first year cap hit for a Landry extension.

Rodgers yes, Brady no (he's at 14 mil). Tannehill has the 7th highest cap hit entering 2017.

 

[MDFINFAN]

He is getting paid like a top 5 QB and he has never been ranked higher than 15th. He is ranked in between Andy Dalton and Alex Smith who are both getting millions less. His cap hit is right in the neighborhood of Brady and Rogers.

This is gross mismanagement on the part of our FO. It's pathetic they couldn't have negotiated a better deal for a mediocre QB who had never been to the playoffs.

Both Tannehill and Pouncey should be restructuring right now and taking a big paycut, Three and two million at least respectively.

Right there is your first year cap hit for a Landry extension.

He was rated #12 last year...so that's 3 spots lower than you gave him credit for He won that game at the rams last year. If D had held, he'd have won that that game at NE last year as well. What did Brock do?