Nobody wins with bad roster - SKOLNICK

[Superself]

I think this article is dead on...especially the quote below:

"We should have known how far a coach alone can go. And can't go.

And we should know how the success of the Saban tenure is to be determined: It will rest on his record from January through July."


Nobody wins with bad roster

 

[dominizzo]

your right

 

[SuperDuperFan]

great read thanks.

 

[dominizzo]

great read thanks.

Chug down that Guinness beer

 

[nighttrain76]

This article should be on the main page for all haters and doubters to read!!!!!! Once they read it then maybe they can take a long glass of STFU...if you know what I mean:D

 

[Superself]

Bump...good article here.

 

[dolphan117]

Good read.

 

[fishypete]

And who helped make up that Roster? How many on the roster are Saban's players...I guess they came to the team by Osmosis. So when you say bad roster...you have to place some blame to Saban...he is the boss.

*** 2005 Miami Dolphins Roster ***
From The Sports Network

NFL
NO. PLAYER POS HT WT EXP SCHOOL

5 Donnie Jones P 6-3 222 2 L-S-U Saban

10 Olindo Mare K 5-11 190 9 Syracuse

11 Gus Frerotte QB 6-3 233 12 Tulsa Saban

17 Cleo Lemon QB 6-2 215 2 Arkansas State Saban

18 Sage Rosenfels QB 6-4 225 5 Iowa State

20 Kiwaukee Thomas CB 5-11 192 6 Georgia Southern Saban

21 Travis Daniels CB 6-1 192 R L-S-U Saban

23 Ronnie Brown RB 6-0 232 R Auburn Saban

25 Reggie Howard CB 6-0 185 6 Memphis

26 Travares Tillman S 6-1 205 5 Georgia Tech

28 Travis Minor RB 5-10 203 5 Florida State

29 Sam Madison CB 5-11 180 9 Louisville

30 Lance Schulters FS 6-2 202 8 Hofstra Saban

31 Sammy Morris FB 6-0 218 6 Texas Tech

34 Ricky Williams RB 5-10 226 6 Texas

35 Eddie Jackson CB 6-0 200 2 Arkansas Saban

36 Darian Barnes FB 6-2 240 4 Hampton Saban

37 Yeremiah Bell S 6-0 200 2 Eastern Kentucky

42 Norman LeJeune S 6-0 210 1 L-S-U Saban

50 Nick Rogers LB 6-2 250 4 Georgia Tech Saban

51 Jason Glenn LB 6-0 231 5 Texas A&M Saban

52 Channing Crowder LB 6-2 245 R Florida Saban

54 Zach Thomas LB 5-11 228 10 Texas Tech

55 Junior Seau LB 6-3 248 16 U-S-C

56 Derrick Pope LB 6-0 232 2 Alabama

59 Donnie Spragan LB 6-3 242 5 Stanford Saban

63 Alonzo Ephraim C 6-4 312 3 Alabama Saban

65 Joe Berger G 6-5 305 R Michigan Tech Saban

66 Rex Hadnot C 6-2 325 2 Houston

68 Seth McKinney C/G 6-3 310 4 Texas A&M

72 Vernon Carey T 6-5 335 2 Miami

73 Stockar McDougle T 6-6 348 6 Oklahoma

75 Manuel Wright DT 6-6 329 R U-S-C Saban

76 Josh Shaw DT 6-3 305 3 Michigan State

77 Damion McIntosh T 6-4 320 6 Kansas State

78 Jeno James G 6-4 320 6 Auburn Saban

79 Anthony Alabi T 6-5 315 R T-C-U Saban

81 Randy McMichael TE 6-3 255 4 Georgia

82 Bryan Gilmore WR 6-0 193 5 Midwestern St (TX)

83 Wes Welker WR 5-9 185 2 Texas Tech

84 Chris Chambers WR 5-11 210 5 Wisconsin

86 Marty Booker WR 6-0 210 7 UL-Monroe

87 Lorenzo Diamond TE 6-3 260 2 Auburn Saban

88 Cliff Russell WR 5-11 190 4 Utah Saban

89 Alex Holmes TE 6-2 270 R U-S-C Saban

90 Jeff Zgonina DT 6-2 290 13 Purdue

91 Vonnie Holliday DE 6-5 288 8 North Carolina Saban

93 Kevin Carter DE 6-6 305 11 Florida Saban

94 Keith Traylor DT 6-2 337 15 Central Oklahoma Saban

96 David Bowens DE 6-3 265 6 Western Illinois

97 John Denney LS 6-5 270 R B-Y-U Saban

98 Matt Roth DE 6-4 272 R Iowa Saban

99 Jason Taylor DE 6-6 255 9 Akron

 

[Dolfinite]

Id say only about 20 of those players are sabans.
The others are JJs and Wannys.

 

[fishypete]

Id say only about 20 of those players are sabans.
The others are JJs and Wannys.

I count 27....thats half the team...and in reality...there all Saban's players...otherwise they shouldn't be on the roster.

 

[Doktor Ivel]

thats y the pckers suck

 

[adamprez2003]

I count 27....thats half the team...and in reality...there all Saban's players...otherwise they shouldn't be on the roster.

I think he kept some players that he doesnt really want just because of the cap i.e Reggie Howard. If we believe that Saban truly is rebuilding this team from scratch, he probably only has 1/3 to 1/4 of the players he really wants. Next year he should have anywhere from 2/3 to 1/2 the players he wants. Regardless of which number it is next year, he has to bring us a winning record next year. 7-9 would be a failure in my opinion. Five more months to the draft Fishypete. Saban's Dolphins career is riding on that one. Let's hope he succeeds

 

[fishypete]

I think he kept some players that he doesnt really want just because of the cap i.e Reggie Howard. If we believe that Saban truly is rebuilding this team from scratch, he probably only has 1/3 to 1/4 of the players he really wants. Next year he should have anywhere from 2/3 to 1/2 the players he wants. Regardless of which number it is next year, he has to bring us a winning record next year. 7-9 would be a failure in my opinion. Five more months to the draft Fishypete. Saban's Dolphins career is riding on that one. Let's hope he succeeds

I believe it's sooner than that...He'll build mostly with free agents and use the draft for the talent positions....otherwise it would take 5 years to do the job thats needed. So watch who he tries to bring in...that will tell us who he'll go after in the draft.

 

[Dol-Fan Dupree]

I count 27....thats half the team...and in reality...there all Saban's players...otherwise they shouldn't be on the roster.

at least pretend you know a little about football. You cannot replace an entire roster in one year.

 

[fishypete]

at least pretend you know a little about football. You cannot replace an entire roster in one year.

I never said he did....or should. And I believe have enough football knowledge to chat with everyone including you.