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Not on my team: Price for Charles Clay is $6 million (Armando)

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You know that moment when teams that haven't won anything start paying young players who haven't won anything big salaries? That is a bad moment.
And that is where the Dolphins are getting to this offseason.
They are getting there with quarterback Ryan Tannehill who is likely going to get a $17-$18 million-a-year contract in the coming months because, as general manager Dennis Hickey said, QB salariesare what they are in the NFL -- even when the QB has never been to the playoffs or a Pro Bowl.
They are there with center Mike Pouncey, who is getting a new deal this offseason. At least Pouncey has been to the Pro Bowl.
And if they want to keep tight end Charles Clay and/or defensive tackle Jared Odrick they are going to be there with the two impending unrestricted free agents.
Clay's camp believes he's going to get a deal worth $6 million per season, according to The Herald's Adam Beasley. And he's going to get it either from the Dolphins or another team.
I've been told Odrick's camp, meanwhile, is certain their client will also get a deal whose floor is $6 million a year before free agency is over because Odrick has proven himself valuable as either a 4-3 defensive tackle or 3-4 defensive end.
You know how much that's going to cost the Dolphins to keep these players in 2015? It will cost approximately $30-36 million on an annual basis for players the Dolphins last year paid $5.21 million in base salary combined.
Indeed, the Dolphins invested $10.63 million in 2014 cap space on the four players combined. To keep them all this year will require about twice that cap space, if not more.
That's just to hold serve. That's just to continue running in place. That's just to not lose ground on talent. For a team that has been 8-8 the last two years.
So what's the answer?
Well, I suppose the Dolphins could pay and keep everyone happy. But I don't abide that approach. I make difficult decisions, friends. I do not pay extra for players who are good but not great.
In other words, I cannot pay Charles Clay $6 million per year. Sorry.
Clay is a solid player. He's a 50-70 catches per year guy. He's a 500-700 yards a year guy. He's a 3-6 TD a year guy, maybe better with a great QB. But $6 million per year?
I let Clay go out and test the market. And if he finds that $6 million a year deal, from the Bills or anyone else, I wish him well.
And then I pick Clive Walford in the second round or Nick O'Leary (who reminds me of a slower Clay with better hands) in the fourth or fifth round. Cheap and possible long-term upgrade there.
Mando quickie plan: I sign Mike Iupati or Orlando Franklin in free agency to fill a guard spot. I ask Billy Turner to start at the other guard. I draft CB Trae Waynes from Michigan State in the first round. I pick Walford or a MLB in the second round. If I don't get Walford, I get O'Leary on Saturday or Sunday of the draft.
Hickey said tough decisions were coming this offseason. You should be starting to get the picture why he said that.

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Yeah lets let Dion Sims be our primary weapon at the TE position.
Pay Clay because rookie tight ends offer almost nothing, Our head coach needs to win now..
I would balk at Odrick.. Offer a 4 year 22 mill deal if he doesn't want it no biggy.
 
6 million a year for Clay is insane. He's just not that good. I'd be fine with 4 a year but that's the absolute max.
 
Let Clay test the market and if we can get 6 mil from some stupid team then more power to him.
 
If Clay asks for too much I'd like at Lance Kendricks. Probably more $3.5-$4M. Then I'd look at Sifrin late.

you kidding right??? kendricks sucks...that would me a massive downgrade...and sifrin is slow and also already 27 and raw as can be...he would be 30 before he/if he ever helped you...terrible idea

sifrin needs to be off our board is what he needs
 
I love that they say Tannehill doesn't really deserve the money that he will likely get on the fact that he hasn't been to the playoffs or pro bowl. Andy Dalton has been to both, :bobdole:, and isn't worth near what Tannehill is...
 
Alright, Clay said he wants to stay with the Dolphins.

Well Miami needs to pay him around 4 mil with incentives that could bring it to around 5 mil if he stays healthy and produces like a premium TE, if he decides to leave for a team that will pay 6 Mil (Doubt it), then so much for him wanting to stay...good riddance

No player should be allowed to force Miami to pay him what a he could be worth, and not what he is worth.
 
you kidding right??? kendricks sucks...that would me a massive downgrade...and sifrin is slow and also already 27 and raw as can be...he would be 30 before he/if he ever helped you...terrible idea

sifrin needs to be off our board is what he needs

Kendricks is not terrible. He may be a poor man's Charles Clay but he'd be solid. Caught 71% of his targets, extremely comparable physical profiles. Sifrin would be a 6th or 7th rounder and he would be here for redzone work and not much else.
 
I really like Clay.... But im not paying 6mil a year for him
 
Albert is right...as much as u want Clay in this team, in reality he's not worth 6 mil. I am guilty of dreaming of the two or three highlight reel plays he has made but they don't come enough really.
 
Kendricks is not terrible. He may be a poor man's Charles Clay but he'd be solid. Caught 71% of his targets, extremely comparable physical profiles. Sifrin would be a 6th or 7th rounder and he would be here for redzone work and not much else.

sifrin wouldnt make the team is what he'd do...not over arthur lynch...i guess if you are taking that as a developmental guy who again would be 30 before he helped you at least 29 but you made it sound like you draft him as the future...and i've seen plenty of kendricks through the years that is as run of the mill as they come across the board pretty much...clay kills that

you gonna waste a draft pick on a guy that will be 30...well at least it's not brandon weeden at pick 8 despite being 28 :lol:

$4 mil to kendricks is awful idea
 
sifrin wouldnt make the team is what he'd do...not over arthur lynch...i guess if you are taking that as a developmental guy who again would be 30 before he helped you at least 29 but you made it sound like you draft him as the future...and i've seen plenty of kendricks through the years that is as run of the mill as they come across the board pretty much...clay kills that

you gonna waste a draft pick on a guy that will be 30...well at least it's not brandon weeden at pick 8 despite being 28 :lol:

It's a weak TE class...I was just throwing a name out. We need some redzone specialists. But ya he ran more poorly than I realized so you're probably right. Can't say I've watched the TE's after Williams, James and Walford so I won't throw anymore names out there haha.

But I do like Kendricks, he's got chicken **** throwing him the football. Too bad James Casey wasn't the post Texans one. I'm just sick of overpaying our own homegrown decent guys, this Odrick and Clay situation is giving me Hartline flashbacks.

I threw out $4M for Kendricks because that's allegedly what he's looking for. I'd look at him closer to $3M as his value, but that's what's been reported.
 
Tough decisions indeed.
I like both Clay and Odrick but that is a lot of money they want,not sure they are both worth it.
If I had to pick one to sign it would be Clay.
But then our Dline gets a major hole if Odrick leaves,if thats the case Draft DL at pick 14,hopefully Danny Shelton is there but i doubt it.
 
It's a weak TE class...I was just throwing a name out. We need some redzone specialists. But ya he ran more poorly than I realized so you're probably right. Can't say I've watched the TE's after Williams, James and Walford so I won't throw anymore names out there haha.

But I do like Kendricks, he's got chicken **** throwing him the football. Too bad James Casey wasn't the post Texans one. I'm just sick of overpaying our own homegrown decent guys, this Odrick and Clay situation is giving me Hartline flashbacks.

i think the thing we need to do is appreciate our own more...clay and odrick are good players ones teams will covet and their market reflects it...but i'm not losing them and replacing them with not ready to play or career filler stuff...nope...not unless the moneys rediculous...and frrom what i'm hearing tossed out it's not...clays would have a 2 year get out if it's 4 years odrick miami needs to sniff the other dts before they commit to him anyways...just dont let these guys go and end up with rookies not ready to play or some scrub veteran and think we will be good...we won't

if it's the draft i don't see how miami can say with confidence short of pick 14 maxx williams is even there again and after that i mean the tight end class sucks...walford even doesnt really give us the true size mismatch down the seam we need although he could help us...and jesse james i'll pass on that
 
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