Not sure a split 2 back system is good...

[PerfectFinz72]

for this team. Does anyone else feel that way? How can either guy ever get in rhythm when you play a series or two but then might not see the field for another quarter +? Its great that it keeps Ronnie and Ricky fresh...but I wonder if it keeps them from REALLY getting going.

I think we've seen both of them over the years start a litle slow and get stronger as the game wore on. If thats the case, limiting their carries every week because they split would hamper them from finishing stong. The running game is really the strength of the offense so if that doesn't get going...whoa boy we're in deep trouble all year.

Any thoughts?

 

[kingjust30]

your right, we just need 2 let ronnie brown just start from here on out. its no secret that ricky fumbles more than any ohter rb in the nfl.and if u dont believe that stat than go check it, once tikki barber retired adn ricky came back he has the biggest fumbling% in the nfl.

 

[chucknduckking]

I am starting to belive this aswell. I remember that Ricky used to always start off a little slow and then about the 3rd quarter he used to just kill it. I can understand the thought around it, but if neither of the two gets into rythem, we won't be able to run anywere.

 

[ZachThomas76]

for this team. Does anyone else feel that way? How can either guy ever get in rhythm when you play a series or two but then might not see the field for another quarter +? Its great that it keeps Ronnie and Ricky fresh...but I wonder if it keeps them from REALLY getting going.

I think we've seen both of them over the years start a litle slow and get stronger as the game wore on. If thats the case, limiting their carries every week because they split would hamper them from finishing stong. The running game is really the strength of the offense so if that doesn't get going...whoa boy we're in deep trouble all year.

Any thoughts?

does it really matter with the horrible wr's we have? i mean come on. defenses know we have squat at receiver, so who really cares whos running the rock? would you like to risk Ronnies long term health in a season that is going down the toilet rapidly?

 

[Canadianfishfan]

does it really matter with the horrible wr's we have? i mean come on. defenses know we have squat at receiver, so who really cares whos running the rock? would you like to risk Ronnies long term health in a season that is going down the toilet rapidly?

Exactly. Has anyone checked the stats lately? Neither Ricky or Ronnie are particularly impressive.

Do we need stability? Sure. Im down with starting Ronnie but Ricky is a nice alternative. But right now, no one is running the ball for us until we can solve the defensive stacks we're up against. And there is a way of doing it. Throwing the ball.

 

[PerfectFinz72]

does it really matter with the horrible wr's we have? i mean come on. defenses know we have squat at receiver, so who really cares whos running the rock? would you like to risk Ronnies long term health in a season that is going down the toilet rapidly?

Well, if the reasoning behind the 2 back split is to save ronnie for the future...then I'm not against it necessarily. But I dont know thats the way it should be looked at. We're not winning the Super Bowl anytime soon but I also dont think our goal should be to go 0-16 and not care. We're kind of in a weird spot here...and I can see why we're going with the 2 back system. But right now, its not working at all.

I'm just questioning whether or not either guy can get into a rhythm not gettng many carries.

 

[PerfectFinz72]

Exactly. Has anyone checked the stats lately? Neither Ricky or Ronnie are particularly impressive.

Do we need stability? Sure. Im down with starting Ronnie but Ricky is a nice alternative. But right now, no one is running the ball for us until we can solve the defensive stacks we're up against. And there is a way of doing it. Throwing the ball.

But this is my question. Neither is getting a chance to get in rhythm. Ricky starts the game, plays a series or two. And then with the defense not getting off the field and Ronnie getting the next two series...Ricky has to wait a long time before getting another carry. And this of course applies to Ronnie as well.

You can't honestly tell me a RB can get himself going like that consistently.

 

[gottahavefootba]

What's keeping them from getting going is getting down by a lot of points early... If we could keep the game close and put a few drives together we could wear down the defenses. This is what gets them going.. it not that they magically run better the more they run.. its that the defenses get tired of tackling them. If we could put some drives together and keep the game close the 2 back system would make them even more effective late in the game... it would mean the defenses are getting tired and they are still somewhat fresh..

 

[ZachThomas76]

But this is my question. Neither is getting a chance to get in rhythm. Ricky starts the game, plays a series or two. And then with the defense not getting off the field and Ronnie getting the next two series...Ricky has to wait a long time before getting another carry. And this of course applies to Ronnie as well.

You can't honestly tell me a RB can get himself going like that consistently.

can Ronnie Browns knee handle 25 carries a game, week in and out?

 

[Canadianfishfan]

can Ronnie Browns knee handle 25 carries a game, week in and out?

This is what i think as well. i do understand the argument though for stability. But these ballgames haven't necessarily played into our strengths being down early in these games.

I would give them a few series each. Ricky needs alot of carries too to get going.

Regardless. we need to get the defense honest. We need play action, we need anything that makes the defense think about the pass, and give our back some opportunity to get in rhythm.

Teams knows we have to run. We just can't.

 

[TheBow305]

I will agree with this. Ronnie is our guy. He is as talented as any back in this league and should only come off the field when he's tired.

 

[Fish-Head]

for this team. Does anyone else feel that way? How can either guy ever get in rhythm when you play a series or two but then might not see the field for another quarter +? Its great that it keeps Ronnie and Ricky fresh...but I wonder if it keeps them from REALLY getting going.

I think we've seen both of them over the years start a litle slow and get stronger as the game wore on. If thats the case, limiting their carries every week because they split would hamper them from finishing stong. The running game is really the strength of the offense so if that doesn't get going...whoa boy we're in deep trouble all year.

Any thoughts?

I think something that bears mentioning is that they also have very similar styles as runners and that changing from one to the other does not constitute a real change in pace or type of attack. It is the same type of defense against either and the 'change' does not force the defence to alter its tactics at all.

Both are power, punishing, first contact runners which is why they are so effective at wearing defenses down but when you stop one... the chances are you will be able to stop both...

I think we need to get more creative with our personnel and try to create mismatches because a change between Ricky or ROnnie does not amount into a change of 'philosophy' at all.

 

[Raging Bull]

I agree. **** the two back system. Let Ronnie get into a rythm. Play Ricky on situational downs or whatever. every now and then. **** Cobbs. Rck doesn't look like he did in the preseason.

Can we just win a damn football game.

 

[PerfectFinz72]

I agree. **** the two back system. Let Ronnie get into a rythm. Play Ricky on situational downs or whatever. every now and then. **** Cobbs. Rck doesn't look like he did in the preseason.

Can we just win a damn football game.

Starting to think thats the way to go.