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Now, lets take a deep breath and break the game down

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Okay, now that some of the more vocal, and guttural reactions are out of the way, let's look at some of the numbers from the game today.

Honestly, I think one of the big numbers that sticks out to me today is T.O.P.:

MIA - 29:07
ATL - 30:53

Why is this important. Well, it tells us a few things. First of all, Atlanta was not able to play their game, which is keep away and pounding the rock. But also, even though our offense was anemic we were not completely outperformed either. We were still able to control the ball for nearly half of the game, which is close to what we want to do. Ideally we want to be in the 35-40 minute range, but being able to do it for about 30, and looking this bad is a testament to the few things we did right.

Total offensive yards:

MIA - 259
ATL - 281

Total offensive plays:

MIA - 56
ATL - 65

On paper, on these stats alone, it would be hard to see the real story of the game, which might paint the game in a different color if you think about it. Looking at the ending score it might seem like it was a complete and utter blow out, that the game was completely uneven. And really, in a few facets of the game it was relatively close, and competetive. There was only the one major, glaring facet where it wasn't even.

Of course, the big number of the day, and the one that shaped the game, were the turnovers:

MIA - 4
ATL - 0

Not only did we have a sloppy performance ourselves, but we were not able to force Atlanta into any of them. This is the story of the game, not all this other stuff people are talking about , or bringing up for no good reason. Were the fumbles on Fasano's part bad? Of course they were. And, at the minimum we saw a 6 point swing at the end of the half. We most likely would have gone in either 7-7, or 7-3, instead of 10-0 with that fumble. That is a huge difference, especially psychologically. We had to go into the half at our lowest point, and we couldn't even try to match or take the lead coming out of the half. No, this is not to excuse Pennington's miscues either, as they were just as demolorizing. But the fact that we were uncharacteristically reckless with the football is the story.

Today has nothing to do with C.P.'s "noodle" arm. So today, out of how many years of him playing, is the day the house of cards finally tumbled down around him? Sorry, but I am not buying that this is the end of C.P., not yet at least. And as for his "noodle" arm:

Yards per passing attempt
C.P.'s: 6.1
Matt Ryan's: 6.4

I think I will let those numbers speak for themselves.

Today has nothing to do with Fasano needing to be cut come sunrise. These are the first 2 fumbles of his career. Before today in 3 seasons Fasasno has had 0 fumbles. He had a bad day, and I am sure he would be the first to admit it. Did he cost the Fins the game? Maybe, maybe not. He definately didn't help put them in a good position, that's for sure.

Today has nothing to do with Pat White, and him being a "wasted pick" according to some. No the run didn't work. And yes, the pass was overthrown, but it was there. The kid was probably a little amped up, it being his first NFL game that counts, and he was probably thinking about that throw all week. And do you really think the fact he threw that ball so far in the air will go unnoticed?

Today has nothing to do with the Wildcat/pat in general. Coaches can only put the players in situations to win. Pat White's pass play was there to be had, it is the execution that failed. I am not sure what happened on the Ginn run/pass option, but it was at least not a negative play, it did not blow up in our faces, and part of the reason for that may be because our players are used to running this system and know how to handle it when the looks are not there.


All in all, the fact that we can look at very specific plays and pin point where things went wrong show that this game was not a huge setback. Let's be honest, on opening weekend we went to a playoff team's homefield and were beat based upon turnovers. We were not out matched, we beat ourselves, and we can fix that.
 
I think everyone is just upset because everyone (the Dolphins included) came into this game with high expectations. Thinking that the young defense they were gonna be playing was just gonna lay down for them, when in reality it was quite the opposite.
 
Yeah we saw the game....we know what happened...

The $155 million offensive line was beat worse than a 14 year old's penis...

Fasano couldn't hold onto the football because Atlanta's defenders were putting their helmets on the football.....Snowflake couldn't hold onto it either....figured he'd throw it to Peterson and see if he could hold onto it....which he did...

Defense and coaching staff did what they intended to do on defense...which was shut down Turner and force Ryan to beat them....which he did...

Ted Ginn 2 catches and a cloud of dust on a reverse.....runs towards the sidelines and everybody wonders why he can't cross the 20 on kickoff returns....

Few ineffective wildcat plays....yada yada yada....basically the same old song as dance as always with this team....

They got beat by a playoff caliber team....period....

This isn't the cupcake schedule of a year ago....
 
No disrespect but you cant go by stats......Most of the yards came in garbage time..... Chad Pennington threw for 76 yards in the 4th quarter (garbage time)....In the 1st half Chad Pennington only threw for 75 yards (1st and 2nd quarter combined).......


You cant throw out the score and total yards either..... Our team could have tried to run up the score and pad our stats but we didnt....... We just ran the clock out.

Matt Ryan could have easily had a 3 or 4 TD game with 300+ yards.....But thats a What if

I understand you are trying to remain positive but your way is taking away from what the Falcons did...


Listen.... You guys have a good team...Our Defense played outstanding and forced you'r offenses to perform the way it did... You guys just lost this game...... No need to make excuses or what if's because you guys have a good team (excuses are for lion fans)........ Next sunday the Dolphins will play motivated football
 
tedslimm...your a funny guy...in a bad way..


Teal fin- the numbers have jsut started popping up, and you introduced the most complete set of stats so far. There is a certain percentage chance of winning based on turnover differential and i'd say our chances were prob like 10 percent with that many turnovers. The game didnt really pull away until late in the 3rd quarter. it is true we really were not horribly outmatched. The story of the game is turnovers and IMO also shotty offensive line play. Get the line playing well and take away the turnovers we win this game. Of course we lost and give ATL credit and i am not saying we are gong to whoop up on everyone. What i am saying is that numbers do not lie. The worst part about this game was turnovers, and also bad pass protection whcih ended some drives way to early. Chad P, pat white, all that is irelevent and this entire board is off on a tangent. its amazing how angry ppl get.

goodnight guys. Goooo jillllls tommorrow! (a close freind actually works for the bills too so i am not such a bills hater not as much as the pats/jets neway)
 
i watched the Atlanta Falcons completely whip the Miami Dolphins today. No offense to the OP, but sometimes stats can be deceiving. Most of us know what we say. It was an *** kicking.
 
Here's an idea: Lets forget about that game and focus on Indy.
Then why would you post on the forums?... Let's also talk about who to draft next year and other crazy things, you come on here to post views of things that happened and a few that are to come still. Also, to get other views, reactions and understand the game and personnel better. Now I know Fasano has never had a fumble before and well, that's even a better reason to not lose faith in him, than him having a good year last year.

Our team is based on moving the ball slowly but surely, keeping the ball in our possession for 2/3 of the game and not turning it over. Pennington throws short passes and we run running plays to move the ball and get first downs, we don't turn it over and we keep other offenses off the field. We will have a lot of close games with this team and we need to pull them out. 4 TO's and only 19 points is great. Ryan never threw anything that should've been picked and they have great RB's who didn't fumble it. Our D looked great and our offense just played poorly and out of synch.
 
tedslimm...your a funny guy...in a bad way..


Teal fin- the numbers have jsut started popping up, and you introduced the most complete set of stats so far. There is a certain percentage chance of winning based on turnover differential and i'd say our chances were prob like 10 percent with that many turnovers. The game didnt really pull away until late in the 3rd quarter. it is true we really were not horribly outmatched. The story of the game is turnovers and IMO also shotty offensive line play. Get the line playing well and take away the turnovers we win this game. Of course we lost and give ATL credit and i am not saying we are gong to whoop up on everyone. What i am saying is that numbers do not lie. The worst part about this game was turnovers, and also bad pass protection whcih ended some drives way to early. Chad P, pat white, all that is irelevent and this entire board is off on a tangent. its amazing how angry ppl get.

goodnight guys. Goooo jillllls tommorrow! (a close freind actually works for the bills too so i am not such a bills hater not as much as the pats/jets neway)


See this is what i dont get... you guys are saying if you didnt turn the ball over..... Not to sound ****y by no means but we made the dolphins turn the ball over..... The consistent pressure made you'r offense have a bad game.....

You guys are saying it like the turnovers were controllable ..... Our Defense made them happen so how can you say "if we didnt turn it over" ...... I dont get it

You guys have a good team.... I respect the Dolphins..... I just dont understand these "Whats if's" and excuses
 
Yeah we saw the game....we know what happened...

The $155 million offensive line was beat worse than a 14 year old's penis...

Fasano couldn't hold onto the football because Atlanta's defenders were putting their helmets on the football.....Snowflake couldn't hold onto it either....figured he'd throw it to Peterson and see if he could hold onto it....which he did...

Defense and coaching staff did what they intended to do on defense...which was shut down Turner and force Ryan to beat them....which he did...

Ted Ginn 2 catches and a cloud of dust on a reverse.....runs towards the sidelines and everybody wonders why he can't cross the 20 on kickoff returns....

Few ineffective wildcat plays....yada yada yada....basically the same old song as dance as always with this team....

They got beat by a playoff caliber team....period....

This isn't the cupcake schedule of a year ago....

:chuckle: painfully true, but funny...

Also, a stat that does not show-up on the boxscore is average starting field position. I can't believe how anemic our kick return game has been for at least a year now. And our O needs all the field position help that it can get.
 
No disrespect but you cant go by stats......Most of the yards came in garbage time..... Chad Pennington threw for 76 yards in the 4th quarter (garbage time)....In the 1st half Chad Pennington only threw for 75 yards (1st and 2nd quarter combined).......


You cant throw out the score and total yards either..... Our team could have tried to run up the score and pad our stats but we didnt....... We just ran the clock out.

Matt Ryan could have easily had a 3 or 4 TD game with 300+ yards.....But thats a What if

I understand you are trying to remain positive but your way is taking away from what the Falcons did...


Listen.... You guys have a good team...Our Defense played outstanding and forced you'r offenses to perform the way it did... You guys just lost this game...... No need to make excuses or what if's because you guys have a good team (excuses are for lion fans)........ Next sunday the Dolphins will play motivated football
I read most of this and said most of it was wrong but at least not angry towards the OP.. then realized you were a Falcons fan.. Our offense played poorly, your D played great, your offense played sub par and our D played great. Our LB's never helped on much of anything and our defensive coaching was terrible but we killed the run and they played good enough to win a football game, our o-line was terrible. And those stats do matter, otherwise in any football game, EVER they'd be always thrown out. Some team is ALWAYS behind except in tie games.. But the end of the game is always big yardage gains..
 
I read most of this and said most of it was wrong but at least not angry towards the OP.. then realized you were a Falcons fan.. Our offense played poorly, your D played great, your offense played sub par and our D played great. Our LB's never helped on much of anything and our defensive coaching was terrible but we killed the run and they played good enough to win a football game, our o-line was terrible. And those stats do matter, otherwise in any football game, EVER they'd be always thrown out. Some team is ALWAYS behind except in tie games.. But the end of the game is always big yardage gains..


I like your Defense.... I think Porter and Taylor will be a great combo..... If you want to add garbage yards to make this game seem closer then its cool......

If the roles was reverse i would be pissed but ill show you guys the respect for what your team did.
 
I like your Defense.... I think Porter and Taylor will be a great combo..... If you want to add garbage yards to make this game seem closer then its cool......

If the roles was reverse i would be pissed but ill show you guys the respect for what your team did.


And I'll show you the respect by agreeing w/ you.

ATL won the game. IFs ANDs and BUTs are for the Lions.
 
Garbage yards in every game. Fact still stands.

Porter and Taylor are great but past their primes and didn't do much today. If our young guys improve, next year they will be great.

I don't know much about your defense, but the offense I do, and your RB got shut down hard.. and Ryan played smart, made some good throws and didn't make any big mistakes, I liked what I seen but he's still young.
 
Garbage yards in every game. Fact still stands.

Porter and Taylor are great but past their primes and didn't do much today. If our young guys improve, next year they will be great.

I don't know much about your defense, but the offense I do, and your RB got shut down hard.. and Ryan played smart, made some good throws and didn't make any big mistakes, I liked what I seen but he's still young.

Our Lb play was very good today by ALL the guys.
The pass rush fell off and that started to hurt.
My guess is wake was inactive as he is not strong vs the run and we thought ATL would just be trying to run down our throats, we stopped
that. The D just needs to learn how to get off the field on a 3rd down.
 
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